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WEP Response to April 2013 Boston Magazine Article

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  • #21
    Originally posted by horseyninjawarrior View Post
    Edited because the link was wrong...

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ekyqX--XyFY#
    Don't miss an appearance by our friend Jesus at the end!
    Another classic. I kept hoping Mrs. Gambino would walk out of the front door.

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    • #22
      “Nor did we want to attract the kind of people the Akon concert would attract to this community…. The people that go and listen to and like Akon are not Wellingtonites. It’s just a different crowd of people. I don’t mean to sound like a snob, but this is a fairly upscale community, and we don’t need to bring the low- and middle-income hooligans into town and have them all of a sudden say, Wow, good pickins’ out here,” said Phelps in the article."

      What I want to know is-
      what is Akon's response to Mason Phelps' comments - and will they be put to song?

      I see a visit from Rev. Al in Wellington's future.

      Mason Phelps should NOT be allowed to speak to nobody about nuthin' going forward.
      Disclaimer: Just a beginner who knows nothing about nothing

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      • #23
        Mason Phelps parody Twitter account
        http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...-call-his-own/
        Disclaimer: Just a beginner who knows nothing about nothing

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ldaziens View Post
          I see a visit from Rev. Al in Wellington's future.
          Now THAT might lower the tone of the place. If that's possible.

          (Nothing against the guy. But where he goes, a media blitz seems to follow. Or vice versa.)

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ldaziens View Post
            Mason Phelps parody Twitter account
            http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...-call-his-own/
            Heh! The Smithers avatar is so appropriate.

            I scrolled down the page to read all 2 of the comments. Here's on posted by "delawarenorth" (Delaware North, for those who didn't know, is the Jacobs' company):

            "Boston Magazine's article contains the quote above from Mason Phelps. Mason Phelps is not an authorized spokesperson for the Jacobs family or Delaware North Companies. His statement is offensive and does not reflect the views of the family or company."

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            • #26
              "If you can't afford Parlanti and Pikeur you're a nobody. Ariat is for those pukes around Ocala". Priceless!!

              Horseyninjawarrior you need to be on Conan or Jimmy Fallon. Your videos are hilarious!

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              • #27
                This is just such a disgusting, disgusting representation of our sport. Forget sharing a video on FB, Phelps should be reprimanded by the USEF board for shunning an entire class of USEF patrons in a mainstream magazine. Shut out the middle class? Are you not paying attention at all to what is going on in the world?

                And the answer is No. Too many of them are not, just guiding our sport on in a bubble that does not recognize how far society, the economy & technology have advanced without them. Unaware that the internet sees & discloses all, that the previous "nobodies" now have a voice, a twitter account and a cell phone camera. Unaware that the tanked economy has strangled any frivolous spending by the middle class and that the future of this "sport" lies in expanding access at the lower levels. And clearly oblivious of the ongoing national debate about the growing separation between classes.

                This is not a guy I particularly want speaking in any USEF capacity. Seems like he has a number of conflicted interests.
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                • #28
                  Very interesting letter to the editor in the local Wellington newspaper today:
                  http://gotowncrier.com/2013/04/lette...jacobs-agenda/

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by slp View Post
                    Very interesting letter to the editor in the local Wellington newspaper today:
                    http://gotowncrier.com/2013/04/lette...jacobs-agenda/
                    Except he says this:

                    The center of the battle is WEP’s success at broadening the appeal of horse shows by providing family entertainment with equestrian events.

                    Which could not be more wrong. All the stum and drang about Mason shooting his mouth off is just distraction from the real issue. The real issue is billionaire WEP wants to build a facility on land designated as part of the Equestrian Preserve that does not fit into the restrictions placed on Equestrain Preserve land. (Mainly an eight story hotel and thousands of square feet of shopping space.) When he started, the Village Council was in the pocket of the billionaire WEP and it was expected that the Village Council would give him the rubber stamp to do it anyway. Coincidentally, this all came to a head in an election year. When other people, including billionaire Jacobs, didn't want that to happen, they put forward their own slate of candidates and those candidates won. So now, instead of being in the pocket of billionaire WEP, the village council is in the pocket of billionaire Jacobs, et al. The billionaires kicked out of that pocket now find it appalling that a different billionaire outspent them.

                    WEP owns a piece of property, currently for sale, all but right across the street from Equestrian Preserve site. It has no Equestrian Preserve restrictions on it, so the commercial space could go up there and no one could do a darn thing about ot.
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                    • #30
                      Thanks for posting this. The story filled a lot of gaps I had in understanding the Bellissimo-Straub-Mische-Phelps-Jacobs history in Wellington.

                      Such a waste of lawyer money for the Village of Wellington. I agree with Midge about the non-restricted land across the street for the hotel and commercial shops, and the Dressage venue be fully developed with equestrian activities, but compromise is not in the DNA of the people on both sides.
                      Last edited by Plumcreek; Apr. 5, 2013, 03:55 PM.
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                      • #31
                        These comments seem to be taken out of context and whose kidding whom to say that average/middle class can enjoy WEF. I suspect you can enjoy some aspects but showing there is a fortune not to mention lodging, food etc. I see parents bakrupting themselves after WEF stints.

                        Has anyone seen the crime rate in Wellington? The property crimes and thefts are 1 in 40 people will be robbed. 7 sex offenders live in Wellington. So I will do you all a favor, I will advise the surrounding cities (and the peeps in Wellington proper) that anyone can walk onto those show grounds at anytime and open tack trunks and steal the equipment and sell it for big bucks on ebay and pawn stores. That is just plain reality. Then see how you feel about Phelps comments. He lives in Wellington, everyone knows Wellington proper is disgusting and crime ridden. People are not talking about the well kept show grounds or the GATED communties.

                        As far as Bellissimo, it was tasteless to send out that email the way he did. If he is right he should have taken the high road.
                        Anthony 'Tony' Soprano Sr.: If you can quote the rules, then you can obey them

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                        • #32
                          I had to forfeit my long term lurker status to post something here. I was absolutely disgusted by some of the initial quotes and by some of the responses here. I showed hunters for most of my teen years. Now that Im in my mid 20's and working I have to be satisfied with my weekly lesson and my one summer show. Do you know what happened at my annual show last summer? I had my jewelry stolen out of my locked trunk by the daughter of a multi millionaire. I asked her to grab my hairnets and she helped herself. After I saw the girl wearing my bracelet the mother attempted to pay me for it so the girl wouldnt be forced to return it. She didnt want to "embarrass" her. When I was showing during my teen years I saw several very well off girls steal from other people. Theft has always been a problem at shows, and its not always perpetrated by members of the "low and middle class". Kleptomania and piss poor morals are not a bi-product of having less money. I am shuddering even having to write that. A bratty hunter princess can covet and swipe your boots or bridle (or bracelet) just as easily as anyone else. Dont want your things stolen? Take a few quick and common sense measures, be careful and lock them up. We've all known this has been a problem for a while.

                          I assume everyone here loves horses. This should be why we all do this. The fact that some people want to segregate this sport because they feel like thievery belongs exclusively to the middle and lower classes is so mind blowingly misguided I dont know what else to say. Would you leave $7,000 worth of jewelry or a brand new laptop in the middle of a crowded area unsecured and unattended for long periods of time? I would hope not. You shouldnt be doing that with expensive tack either.

                          I understand that the majority of what is going on here is a property dispute. Many people say that these awful comments distracted from the real issue at hand. But we all must keep in mind that Phelps was hired to serve the interests of the Jacobs family. Obviously one of those interests was segregating our sport at Wellington. These comments cannot be erased because some people find them inapplicable. Also, anyone who has been to enough shows knows that these sentiments are echoed on a fairly regular basis. I truly hope there is some sort of public backlash against perpetuating a stereotype about our sport that so many people have been fighting for years. Thank you Mr. Phelps for making us all looking like spoiled elitists with a fear of poor people.

                          Excuse my rant. I thought it better than the random combination of letters that came out after I read the article and hit my head against the keyboard.

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                          • #33
                            I wish all of these boys would grow up. They're too old to be acting like this. Tu problema no es mi problema

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                            • #34
                              MUST SEE VIDEO"S

                              Originally posted by horseyninjawarrior View Post
                              Edited because the link was wrong...

                              http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ekyqX--XyFY#

                              For those of you who don't follow the hunter/jumper antics, horseynijawarrior is my hero. She has made me laugh on more than one occasion.This is a must see video.



                              Don't miss an appearance by our friend Jesus at the end!

                              For those of you who don't follow the hunter/jumper antics, horseynijawarrior is my hero. She has made me laugh on more than one occasion.This is a must see video.

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                              • #35
                                "whose kidding whom to say that average/middle class can enjoy WEF"


                                What she said.

                                And these grossly rich jerks squabbling, flinging insults and bullying their way through life is yet another embarrassment to the sport.

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                                • #36
                                  Originally posted by jody jaffe View Post
                                  "whose kidding whom to say that average/middle class can enjoy WEF"


                                  What she said.

                                  And these grossly rich jerks squabbling, flinging insults and bullying their way through life is yet another embarrassment to the sport.
                                  I understood the 'enjoy WEF' comment to be spectators, not exhibitors.

                                  Was it this article that talked about the substantial increase in sponsorships as well as the increase in paying spectators at the gate? That's all more money into the pockets of WEP, since fees to the exhibitors continue to go up, not down.
                                  *****
                                  You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.

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                                  • #37
                                    I think this means showing there as a middle class person is not realistic. At least it's not realistic for this middle class person.


                                    "These comments seem to be taken out of context and whose kidding whom to say that average/middle class can enjoy WEF. I suspect you can enjoy some aspects but showing there is a fortune not to mention lodging, food etc. I see parents bakrupting themselves after WEF stints. "

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                                    • #38
                                      enjoy the best

                                      Originally posted by MillysGirl View Post
                                      This whole thing is sad. I was considering banking some money and going down just to WATCH next winter, but I am one of those low-class nobodies that Phelps doesn't want around. Guess I'll look at heading to HITS instead...
                                      WEF is the greatest. Don't "punish" yourself by not coming to the best of the showhorse world.

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by CK3278 View Post
                                        I assume everyone here loves horses. This should be why we all do this.
                                        After so many years of doing this sport, I am actually convinced that MOST people in this sport do NOT love horses. They do it for prestige, ego, the thrill of gambling, what have you but the people who do it for the love of horses are few and far between. I learned this the hard way. Now I have a great core group of friends whom I know have their hearts in the horses. I am very careful who I deal with.

                                        To me neither Jacobs nor Bellissimo have any love for horses or the sport. They are both big spoiled billionaire brats that have to have it their own way, whatever "it" may be. Either side could give up now and the world would not be that much different. But the fact that they continue fighting is shameful, disheartening, and quite frankly, ignorant.
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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by jody jaffe View Post
                                          I think this means showing there as a middle class person is not realistic. At least it's not realistic for this middle class person.


                                          "These comments seem to be taken out of context and whose kidding whom to say that average/middle class can enjoy WEF. I suspect you can enjoy some aspects but showing there is a fortune not to mention lodging, food etc. I see parents bakrupting themselves after WEF stints. "
                                          I agree, her comment did. But, I think she also misunderstood the original point in the article, which was people coming out to watch, hence the face painting, etc. And Bellisimo can talk about the Tiki Hut like it's some simple little place, but the prices aren't simple!
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