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  • How Much Is This Pony Worth

    I am going to start off by saying ***this is not my pony nor am I selling it for anyone***. I was asked to ball park a pony.

    Said animal - Top of the line large pony. Skinny; like a 2-3 body score. Gelding. Pretty. 19 years old. Goes around like a beginner's pony - head up but not too high - would need some reschooling for anything other than local shows. Ok mover, but never going to win the hack. Seeing eye dog over fences; point and shoot. Did have a change, but would need reschooling on that too. Anyone can ride and I mean ANYONE. Trail rides like a dream. Perfect 1st pony.
    Member of the "I Ride A Chestnut Thoroughbred Mare, So You Don't Scare Me Clique"

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    Appearance would really drive the price down for me... Are they selling as is or are they going to put a little weight on the pony? Are they going to get it in shape at all?
    Or, are you asking to price it as you have described it and nothing more?
    ALP
    "The Prince" aka Front Row
    Cavalier Manor

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      #3
      I would like an "as is" price.
      Member of the "I Ride A Chestnut Thoroughbred Mare, So You Don't Scare Me Clique"

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      • #4
        Maybe 1000-2000.

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        • #5
          Due to the age and body condition I would guess 1-3k depending on show record.
          Fils Du Reverdy (Revy)- 1993 Selle Francais Gelding
          My equine soulmate
          Mischief Managed (Tully)- JC Priceless Jewel 2002 TB Gelding

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          • #6
            Any maintenance issues due to age? If he's reasonably sound, say just a joint supp, and w/t/c and point-n-shoot over fences, and has reasonably attractive conformation... Add a bit more, imo. Something broke for anyone for the ring and trails? He'd be worth about $1500 here, maybe $3000 towards Seattle. More than maintenance on the joints, maybe not exactly attractive, deduct about $500 to $1000.Broke is broke, sound is sound. Skinny can be fixed.
            COTH's official mini-donk enabler

            "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl

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            • #7
              free to a forever home? seriously at 19 there is not alot of value in sale...or maybe $1000. If it's got an amazing show record, used to be a been there done that pony, then maybe more but really...in the condition its in now... I'm going very low.

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              • #8
                Sounds ike a free lease to me.
                Janet

                chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                • #9
                  With a body condition score like that one has to wonder WHY it is so low. At that age it's a red flag that it may be hard to keep weight on, has teeth issues or another underlying issue going on, etc.

                  I agree, free lease.
                  Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                  • #10
                    I agree with free to a good home. At that point in the pony's life the main goal should be to find it a home to live out the rest of it's life with love and care. I find it sickening the downward spiral we leave our older horses, especially ponies because of the "grow out of" factor, to. Keep passing him on and sooner than later he will end up neglected, abused or at the knackers.

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                    • #11
                      A 2-3 Body score on one that is said to be 19- and unless they have papers is probably older? How did that happen? Has he been sick? Is he actually older and just not holding weight? 2-3 is pretty bad on a senior horse or Pony and hard to restore.

                      Goes around with head up? Sore? Bad teeth? No guarantee that will school out of a senior.

                      Sounds like they need a vet work up to see if there are underlying health issues, dental work, time to regain condition and somebody to fund all that.

                      i feel sorry for him but would not want him, certainly not for a child's first Pony with so many questions and potential limitations. Free lease at best with a medical exclusion.

                      If he were even 5 years younger with proof of age it might go differently. I'd be afraid he was mid 20s and starting to fail with a short useability window.
                      When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                      The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                      • #12
                        Really around here maybe 800 to 1000 if lucky
                        Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

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                        • #13
                          Free Lease, he would not sell around here. Maybe 500-800 if you put enough weight on him and found the right home. 19 is not old for some horses, but once the horse is underweight and needing reschooling, and sounding like he would require maintenance, price drops dramatically.
                          Mendokuse

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                          • #14
                            Just read your other thread on body scoring.

                            If you are describing this Pony in that thread? The raised backbone and sunken flanks are typical in many geriatric equines...and it's the weight of the body core succumbing to gravity pulling the rib cage down, the spine does not rise.

                            Additionly, geriatric horses have trouble holding weight and dental issues with no easy solutions.

                            There is no etched stone age for becoming geriatric but most are mid 20's.

                            If this Pony is as you describe? I got a hunch he is not 19. Lest they say his teeth put him there? I got one whose teeth say 18 and actual (have original papers) age is 24 this month...just now starting to see some sagging rib cage and a slight sink in the upper flank. Body condition still 7/8.

                            Plus that...how many Ponies have you ever seen at a 2/3 body condition short of a kill pen or retirement. Really, think about that. I think this may just be an old Pony ready for retirement not reschooled aiming for the show ring or serious lesson program.
                            When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                            The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                            • #15
                              I would personally offer $500.00 and not pay more than $1000.00.

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                              • #16
                                Is this someone that can't afford to care for the pony anymore and that's why he has gotten that skinny? If so they need to just give him away to someone that can take care of him.
                                Here is 3 of mine. All were 34 yrs old in the photos
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                                http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

                                And this guy is about 18
                                http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0260134&type=3

                                They all needed different diets to keep weight on and some can get very expensive. If they can't afford it they need to find a home that can help him.
                                Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

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                                • #17
                                  As is, next to nothing. I would be worried there is something wrong with it as 19 is not old for a pony and it shouldn't look aged. Plumped up, sound and totally kid-safe -- $3k?

                                  I have a fat, cute, sound 20 year old pony who is totally child safe but doesn't even jump. My vet tells me every time he comes out that if I ever want to sell her he's got half a dozen homes lined up that day. She's not a "great mover" as far as ponies go but is cute as a button and a great first pony. She's not going anywhere but I could easily get $3k for her. She does have an extensive show record, however.

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                                  • #18
                                    Loss of topline and a ribby appearance is also a classic symptom of Cushings. The pony is 19, I'd be worried about that.
                                    --o0o--

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Sarabeth View Post
                                      Loss of topline and a ribby appearance is also a classic symptom of Cushings. The pony is 19, I'd be worried about that.
                                      That was my thought too.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by rabicon View Post
                                        Wow, I hope my 26 year old looks that good at 34! He is just starting to show his age, although most people think he is in his late teens. He never got the memo that he's a senior.

                                        For this pony, I would be most worried about his poor body condition - that isn't something you normally see in ponies without ongoing neglect. It sounds like this guy was a nice pony earlier in his life - how did he get to this point?

                                        I agree with others who have said free lease or sell for $1 to the right home. And by "right" I mean someone who will be willing to take care of the oldster *and* put him down when the time comes.

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