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  • #61
    Originally posted by runNjump86 View Post
    In direct response to the post I've quoted, I have actually seen radiographs of hock joints "before" and "after" starting regular Theraplate sessions. Before the hocks had active arthritis and were causing discomfort. Six months later (no injections or supplements) after being put on the Theraplate every day the arthritis was no longer active and the horse was significantly more comfortable. Nothing in the horse's routine had changed other than the addition of the Theraplate.
    What's the control here? Have you done the same with a horse that did not have Theraplate? Which joints? Some hock joints will fuse on their own over time, resulting in increased comfort after an initial period of inflammation/lameness.

    Here's some more recent research on the subject. A quote from the article: "Time is one of the greatest healers," Nielsen told The Horse. "When people observe their horse getting better after using a vibrating platform for a period of time, it is quite likely due to healing that would have occurred regardless of whether the horses were being treated or not."

    http://www.thehorse.com/articles/395...tforms-studied

    All I can tell you is that I'm a scientist that studies joints for a living. I have seen whole body vibration treatment repeatedly and robustly induce articular cartilage and intervertebral joint damage in experimental trials - but this has been modeled in species other than horses.

    There were no musculoskeletal differences between treatment and control horses, but there were behavioral differences.
    *Absolut Equestrian*

    "The plural of anecdote is not fact...except in the horse industry"

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    • #62
      Can you tell if arthritis is "active" from x-rays?
      ~Veronica
      "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
      http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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      • #63
        ^^ Wonderful question, VXF. I don't believe you can. I believe you would need a nuclear medicine bone scan for that.

        Way cool that you study joints for a living, Absolut. Absolutely very important!

        "All I can tell you is that I'm a scientist that studies joints for a living. I have seen whole body vibration treatment repeatedly and robustly induce articular cartilage and intervertebral joint damage in experimental trials - but this has been modeled in species other than horses."

        Induced cartilage damage in species other than horse? That is certainly close enough for me to stay clear.

        An interesting aside is that they believe truck drivers tend to have cartilage problems (discs, knees, etc.) due to truck vibration.
        Last edited by beaujolais; Oct. 2, 2017, 01:18 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by runNjump86 View Post

          I know this is an old thread but I've been digging around because I'm thinking of doing the free three week trial. Which has me asking, has anyone done that free trial and NOT bought the Theraplate?

          The trainer I worked for in CA had one. She ran a rehab barn and rides UL dressage. She would put her UL horse and her retired schoolmaster on it every day, minimum once, and I believed it helped. I rode the schoolmaster regularly and he was always more limber on the days I rode after his session. My horses went on it as well and thoroughly enjoyed it.

          In direct response to the post I've quoted, I have actually seen radiographs of hock joints "before" and "after" starting regular Theraplate sessions. Before the hocks had active arthritis and were causing discomfort. Six months later (no injections or supplements) after being put on the Theraplate every day the arthritis was no longer active and the horse was significantly more comfortable. Nothing in the horse's routine had changed other than the addition of the Theraplate.
          I did the trial, didn't see any real results, so I shipped it back.
          Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
          www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Timex View Post

            I did the trial, didn't see any real results, so I shipped it back.
            Did you have any issues in doing so? Did you have to pay the shipping?
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            • #66
              Originally posted by runNjump86 View Post

              Did you have any issues in doing so? Did you have to pay the shipping?
              nope, no issues, just boxed it back up and they arranged and paid for shipping.
              Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
              www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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              • #67
                My old barn had one, it seemed okay. I never saw a difference before and after the horse used them nor a difference in the horses that use them vs. those that did not. They seem nice, though. My new trainer likes them but does not have one. I don't think I would ever get one as it doesn't seem to help. But the horses seemed fine with them. Probably feels like an unprofessional back massage. Feels good, but doesn't do anything?

                Personally, I have had chiropractic work done on my horses and it did wonders for those having problems. I've seen horses do a 180 after getting work done, it always amazes me. But I know not everyone really cares for the idea of chiropractic work done on horses.

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                • #68
                  Reviving the Theraplate thread again....
                  been having nothing but trouble from my 3 yo theraplate in the last 9 months. First one plate stopped working (was repaired by theraplate, I paid over $300 for shipping), and now the other plate isn't working!
                  Has anyone had issues with their Theraplate? I'm not pleased and am worried as the 5 year warranty is coming up that I'm going to be stuck with a $6k machine that I'm constantly repairing! I've had some good results with the Theraplate (mostly resolving colic and helping with back soreness) but there are cheaper options out there.
                  Brae Mont Farm
                  www.braemontfarm.weebly.com

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                  • #69
                    No science behind it and most vets that I’ve talked to think it could possibly hurt certain horses. Now pemf on the other hand has science behind it. I put my money on science and results.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ComingAttraction View Post
                      No science behind it and most vets that I’ve talked to think it could possibly hurt certain horses. Now pemf on the other hand has science behind it. I put my money on science and results.
                      I'm on the fence about PEMF- would you mind sharing the science you have have that supports it? I had a session done on my guy the other day and the lady who performed it recommended once a week treatments. That will add up pretty quickly cost-wise, and I really can't commit unless I hear some more convincing evidence.
                      A blonde & her hunter:
                      www.hunkyhanoverian.com

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                      • #71
                        I use it on myself and can say without a doubt it works. You have to figure out what schedule works for you and your horse, I think someone suggesting it be done every week is just looking to make more money from you. You have to see how your horse responds to it so it may take some time to figure out how often you need to have it done.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by HJdaydream View Post

                          I'm on the fence about PEMF- would you mind sharing the science you have have that supports it? I had a session done on my guy the other day and the lady who performed it recommended once a week treatments. That will add up pretty quickly cost-wise, and I really can't commit unless I hear some more convincing evidence.
                          I am also interested in science supporting PEMF. I went to a demonstration once and put one of the rings on my shoulder that is always tight, and while I felt it "working" it didn't relive any discomfort.

                          It seems like everyone has anecdotal experience with a system that they have stuck with. For example I have had good luck with Bemer, but I saw no benefits when I was using it for the sake of using it. It only seemed to help when my horse or myself had an injury.

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                          • #73
                            Nobody ever seems to have any real "science" on all this woo woo stuff. Someone just claims they have some and then vanishes without a trace.

                            It's been YEARS now, does Tad Coffin have a scientifically structured study to support its claims that its saddle can cure ulcers or whatever other nonsense?
                            ~Veronica
                            "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                            http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                            • #74
                              Theraplate currently has my theraplate for the second repair in the barely over 3 years that I've had it (purchased new from Theraplate) AND THEY WON'T CALL ME BACK.
                              I have been SO disappointed in their customer service. Honestly, I'm beginning to think they are hiding something. They won't send me a price list of repair costs once the warranty runs out so I can make an educated decision about whether I want to keep this thing. After asking questions on Facebook they have blocked me and deleted all my comments. Completely unimpressed with them as a whole. I would steer far, far away! I'm hoping we can come to a resolution without involving lawyers, but considering they have my $6,000 AND my theraplate and won't call me back I am feeling concerned.
                              Has any one had a similar bad experience with this company?
                              Brae Mont Farm
                              www.braemontfarm.weebly.com

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                              • #75
                                Unprovoked92, you might contact the Attorney General’s office in the state Theraplate is from. I’ve used them in the past very successfully to fight long distance battles.

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                                • #76
                                  Originally posted by HJdaydream View Post

                                  I'm on the fence about PEMF- would you mind sharing the science you have have that supports it? I had a session done on my guy the other day and the lady who performed it recommended once a week treatments. That will add up pretty quickly cost-wise, and I really can't commit unless I hear some more convincing evidence.
                                  I've tried PEMF on two horses and on myself with no results. Costs add up so quick! I don't understand why everyone loves it so much. Would love to see scientific studies that I keep hearing about.

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