• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Uneven back soreness

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Original Poster

    Originally posted by iconicbayequestrian View Post
    My thoughts through reading this as a vet:

    flexions of all four limbs- I have had hock pain result in sore backs focal or widespread depending on how they compensate. Coffin joint or foot pain can also cause back pain, unwillingness to go forward, poor attitude under tack.

    SI pain can also cause these symptoms. Ultrasound and palpation of spine will help diagnose changes and amount of pain.

    Bloodwork for cushings- glucose, cortisol and insulin levels. Can do pre grain cortisol and 6-8 hr post. Usually do one draw. Can also do a dex suppression test. Cushings can cause muscle pain, poor performance, skin issues and definate foot pain. I have a few horses that fit this group of symptoms that after testing positive or high normal have been on pergolide and the symptoms improve greatly.

    Saddle fit- this is especially true if he has changed shape in last 3-4 months, thin line makes a great pad for sore backs but it won't fix a bad fitting saddle

    This is where I would start at least to rule out easy to diagnosis diseases and start narrowing down the list.

    Heather Farmer
    Thanks for your input Heather.

    The more I consider things the more I'm confused as to why flexions haven't been done. The vets both seem really caught up on the horse being sound when they watch him go...He is a big boy at 18.1 hands, so having wear and tear at 11 years old seems reasonable. I have him on adequan, but I know that wouldn't take care of everything.

    I don't think he would fit into cushings since he's not very old, if anything drinks too little, and he barely grows a winter coat. Do you still think it's a possibility? I'd have to look but I think glucose was on the bloodwork we've done before which was all normal. Of course this was not a specific test for cushings, but a general panel.

    He did change a lot in his back when he finally gained some weight earlier this year, but I have had my saddle re-paneled since then. I'm not a saddle fitter, but to me it looks good. My only concerns with the saddle are that maybe the gullet is too narrow for his spine or that the saddle is too long and past his last rib. He is long in the area between his last rib and his hip (loin maybe?), so it's a bit deceiving. Hopefully I hear back from the saddle fitter I found, she was talking this Saturday or next to come look at him.

    I do feel like we've been doing things in a weird order, but maybe it's just because I've been dealing with this for so long they assume it can't be something easy?


    • Original Poster


      Just wanted to provide an update.

      Had the saddle fitter out and she said I did a great job fitting my saddle. What she did find however was that the slope of his back was different on each side right where the back of the panels sit. He kind of drops off on the left, causing extra pressure on the right side. So after a shim on the left I am having a much easier time sitting straight. Horse did a month of Robaxin and is now done with that. His attitude is slightly better, but still not what I want it to be. He seems to relax sooner when I start cantering and not get as mad about my movements in the saddle so it's something. He started getting really pissy whenever I go to get him out of his stall, but I'm hoping that's just because he is tired of having a syringe of bad tasting goo stuffed in his mouth twice a day. Now that we are done with that we will see.

      Now I've moved on to trying to get rid of his back leg scabby grossness, as I do believe they are somewhat painful. My vet sent me a jar of "magic" goo which I just started today, so we will see.

      He is a problem child. So going to work on back leg scabs for a bit now but keep hock flexions/x-rays and scoping for ulcers on the list. The sports med vet is coming the end of February, so I can always do the hock check at that time.


      • Original Poster

        Another Update/Kissing Spines

        Since the last time I posted a few things have happened. My horse finally became off in his gait, although never clinically lame. Lameness vet sent us to MSU for a bone scan which revealed kissing spines in three spots. The spots were injected and we've been working on getting back in shape. We are just starting to jump again but he feels good and his attitude is much improved.

        I'm now hoping to get more information about the physical therapy available to help deal with the issue, instead of relying on the injections alone. I also plan to purchase the knock off Dover version of the pessoa lunging system to help my horse build up his back without me on him.

        It has been a very long road but I finally feel like I'm getting my horse back. I honestly wish we had just x-rayed his back early on, it was obvious on x-ray. If you go to my blog I have posted some of his x-rays.


        • #24
          Glad to hear you got it figured out! Nothing feels better than knowing you are on the right track
          Originally posted by rustbreeches
          [George Morris] doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis