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  • #41
    Originally posted by Jhorne89 View Post
    She was listed as a thoroughbred, big bodied, 16.2hh without lip tattoo. I was just always curious.
    I had a big TB with a ranch brand but no lip tattoo, as he was never raced.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
      Argentinian? They brand on the butt cheeks, I think. Numbers.
      Originally posted by amandaw View Post
      The saddle brand is the brand for Silla Argentino. The number to the left of the tail refers to the year of birth, i.e., my mare has a 7 for 1997. There is often a number to the right of the tail as well. And possibly another brand from the breeder by the saddle brand.
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      • #43
        Jhorne... If the mare was bred to be a sport horse, they would not be tattooed. I had a JC registered mare that was bred for sport and never tattooed. She was amazing!
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        • #44
          You're welcome. I had a lot of help from the registry to figure out the identity of my mare

          Originally posted by Bristol Bay View Post
          Mystery solved! Thank you. I'll have to ask my friend where the mare ended up. She was classy.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Burbank View Post
            Jhorne, I know a horse named 150 b/c that is the freeze brand on his neck, they always said he was a standardbred and that was his race brand, now he did have the lovely standardbred head but the brand was different than the brand on a ex pacer mare, her brand looked more like a mustang brand
            US Standardbreds used to get a tattoo with their reg number, but many also had freezebrands of usually 2 or 3 characters done for ID on the farm. So that is probably the story with 150. The one I rode as a teenager had just a 2 on his neck. These days the reg number is freeze branded on the neck. The mare with a mustang type brand was likely imported from Australia, where they freeze brand Standardbreds with the alpha angle system, or New Zealand, which uses a similar TVI system.
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            • #46
              I know some registries brand yearlings. Would that make a difference in the final size of the brand. Less time to grow and stretch with the horse as he/she ages?
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              • #47
                Also, I would like to add that it may very well be a Knabstrupper brand which is a K inside a crest. Do you have a picture of his face? Does he happen to have a star and a strip?
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by honeylips View Post
                  Folks I am a Westfalen breeder and stand a Westfalen stallion. Unless there are 2 numbers below the brand it is not a Westfalen brand, period. All brand prior to 2010 had to have the number below. They didn't make brands without the number. It wasn't possible.
                  Well, since the one picture shows what look like two numbers below the brand, I'm going Westfalen too.

                  If all brands prior to 2010 have the number, what do more recent brands have?
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SarahandSam View Post
                    Well, since the one picture shows what look like two numbers below the brand, I'm going Westfalen too.
                    that was given as an example of a known Westfalen brand. It is not from the horse in question.

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                      Hi! Yes he does! How'd you know?

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                        #51
                        Though I thought knabstruppers were mainly spotted?

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by ponygirl22 View Post
                          Hi! Yes he does! How'd you know?
                          Do you have a picture of his face by chance? Head on?

                          Originally posted by ponygirl22 View Post
                          Though I thought knabstruppers were mainly spotted?
                          Just like any other color breed, there is a chance of a horse being produced without spots.
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                            Here's a photo of his face
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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by ponygirl22 View Post

                              Link didn't work for me.
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                              • #55
                                You can see it in the first pic.
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                                • #56
                                  Jhorne, the OTTB I used to have had a big, white D433 branded across his butt. He originally came from a ranch in New Mexico.

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                                  • #57
                                    Cute boy.

                                    This might be my western sensibilities but I REALLY REALLY doubt it's a "fake" warmblood brand, just given what it trouble it is to brand (for owner and horse alike). Out west hear all branding symbols are supposed to be licensed/registered and branding is more difficult for everyone involved than tattooing. Not flippantly done. I cannot imagine someone doing it to fake a heritage. You brand something because you want to KEEP it. That stock in your band that didn't quite turn out to be up to the quality expected? You might "forget" to brand that. Again, western culture.
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                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by honeylips View Post
                                      Folks I am a Westfalen breeder and stand a Westfalen stallion. Unless there are 2 numbers below the brand it is not a Westfalen brand, period. All brand prior to 2010 had to have the number below. They didn't make brands without the number. It wasn't possible.
                                      Hmm. My Westphalian mare didn't have any numbers under the crest that I can recall...and before you start questioning her registry, all her papers were in hand at the time I owned her (and I bought her from the breeder).

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                                        here's one of his face:

                                        http://www.flickr.com/photos/9080067...in/photostream

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                                        • #60
                                          So, wait, did the person asking about the face markings know the horse or not?
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