• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

CWD saddles - tell me your stories

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • CWD saddles - tell me your stories

    I want to hear the good, the bad, the indifference, all of it

    If it didn't work for you, was it because *you* didn't like it, or it didn't fit the horse?

    What do you think of the memory foam stuffing?

    How long have you had yours? I know they are a pretty young saddle, I don't know quite how young, so I'm wondering if they've been around long enough to have longevity issues.

    Why did you choose the CWD over another brand of similar quality?
    ______________________________
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

  • #2
    Old trainer of mine had one that I rode in once....for about 10 minutes. Then I switched it. It literally threw me out of the tack. Every time I would post it would be sit, sky, sit, sky, sit ,sky. I absolutely hated it.

    However, my friend has one and uses it on her mare, and loves it. I sat in hers and it seemed better than the other one I sat in.
    www.justworldinternational.org

    Comment


    • #3
      I've had mine for 2 years or so and love it. It has stood up to everything, from Vermont rain to HITS dust, and has been on horses of all sizes, from small ponies to 17.3 warmbloods.
      http://www.youtube.com/user/supershorty628
      Proudly blogging for The Chronicle of the Horse!

      Comment


      • #4
        Love, love, love it...

        I have nothing but good things to say about my CWD. It puts my leg in a perfect position and fits most of the horses I ride. I think it all depends on your body and the horse/horses you are riding. No complaints here! I would definitely spend the money again.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          ok, supershorty and kbrethauer, you said something I was wondering about when talking to the rep (but didn't get into with her, as I'll wait until she comes out):

          You say that it fits a wide range of horses. She was talking to me about the flexible tree point end and how that allowed the front panels to be very flexible to fit a wide range of shoulder/withers. It looked very cool, and intrigued me to no end.

          How different in width and shape were the horses you say it fit?
          ______________________________
          The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by JB View Post
            ok, supershorty and kbrethauer, you said something I was wondering about when talking to the rep (but didn't get into with her, as I'll wait until she comes out):

            You say that it fits a wide range of horses. She was talking to me about the flexible tree point end and how that allowed the front panels to be very flexible to fit a wide range of shoulder/withers. It looked very cool, and intrigued me to no end.

            How different in width and shape were the horses you say it fit?
            I have used it on a shark-finned TB to a round 18 hand Dutch boy... When I had it made the rep fitted it to my horse and then added that he would make sure the panels weren't too built up, so I could use it on quite a few. I haven't run into a horse it doesn't fit and I usually use a baby pad and my thinline... with the TB I also use a pommel to take up a little room, but that is it. It fits very good and I love the way my leg sits with it.

            My current horse is a 4 year old and is in the process of developing muscle. I haven't run into a problem yet, but would definitely get it re-fitted if I needed to.

            Comment


            • #7
              I LOVE my CWD. I've had it for 3 years now and it's really stood up to many tests. You mention the flexible tree point-I can give you an example of extreme different horses it fits. There are two totally different horses in my barn that my saddle fits. One is an OTTB, thin, tall, shark-withered and everything else would slide back and pinch his withers but my saddle stayed in place. The other is a Morgan cross, short, really round, FAT and no withers-everything just slides around on her, and she must have a breastplate or there will be multiple dismounting to fix saddles. My saddle-no need for dismounts or breastplate, stays in place, nothing like the owner's saddle (Butet) that supposedly fit her.

              I was going back and forth between the Tad Coffin and CWD and what cemented my decision was I felt I could sit deeper in the CWD. I think I actually preferred how the TC placed my leg, but the CWD wasn't that much off, and I loved the seat of CWD more. I always tell people who ask why I preferred CWD to TC that I felt as if I was sitting on the arm of a chair with the TC, but sitting in the chair itself with the CWD.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Equino View Post
                I always tell people who ask why I preferred CWD to TC that I felt as if I was sitting on the arm of a chair with the TC, but sitting in the chair itself with the CWD.
                Exactly... I tried quite a few: Butet, Devacoux, L'Apogee and loved the CWD. It is so comfortable without be super cushy like the Devacoux...

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by JB View Post
                  ok, supershorty and kbrethauer, you said something I was wondering about when talking to the rep (but didn't get into with her, as I'll wait until she comes out):

                  You say that it fits a wide range of horses. She was talking to me about the flexible tree point end and how that allowed the front panels to be very flexible to fit a wide range of shoulder/withers. It looked very cool, and intrigued me to no end.

                  How different in width and shape were the horses you say it fit?
                  Like I said, mine has been on EVERYTHING. I have used it on tiny, narrow ponies, huge fat warmbloods, shark-fin withers, my mare (who is a pretty standard fit), medium ponies who are pretty chunky, a medium who is pretty tiny...

                  It fits everything, haha!
                  http://www.youtube.com/user/supershorty628
                  Proudly blogging for The Chronicle of the Horse!

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kbrethauer View Post
                    When I had it made the rep fitted it to my horse and then added that he would make sure the panels weren't too built up, so I could use it on quite a few.
                    but would definitely get it re-fitted if I needed to.
                    Interesting. Is yours memory foam? If so, how does that get "re-fitted"?
                    ______________________________
                    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JB View Post
                      Interesting. Is yours memory foam? If so, how does that get "re-fitted"?
                      I would assume that the saddle could be re-flocked (re-fitted). Amendine (sp?) who runs the LA office for CWD post on here quite often, could help us answer the question... I assume the saddle would be sent back to France or someone reputable. I haven't had to worry about it, as it fits anything I put it on. I believe all of their saddles are foam flocked. Not sure about the whole memory foam thing... mine is a 2006 model.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Not sure about the "fits anything" aspect - but the CWD I bought about 8 - 9 months ago does fit my gelding who is 17-3, long backed, big shouldered with narrow and high withers.
                        Bought it used (excellent condition) and LOVE the position it puts me in. Really easy to keep my leg and body right where it belongs.

                        I had a Devoucoux that was a beautiful saddle - really nicer leather and definitely more "cushy" than the CWD - but did not fit my guy (although was a great fit for the mare I had purchased it for) and was just an ok fit for me.

                        I also tried several used Antares, a Luc Childric and a Butet.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          My CWD is 3+ years old, I had excellent customer service, saddle came in exactly as ordered and on time (slightly ahead of schedule). I bought it because I preferred the feel over every other saddle I tried (Butet, Antares, Devoucoux, etc.) and I still love it. No saddle fits every horse but mine has been a good fit for the several horses I have used it on.

                          I much prefer foam panels over wool because I ride more than one horse and I like that it springs back into shape after each horse. And although its not as easy (or inexpensive) to change panels as to reflock wool it can be done. Wool also gets hard and lumpy.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Ive test ridden in one. Liked it the first few rides, then actually found it a little uncomfortable. I dont know if it forced a position, or if it was just too hard? It wasnt horible, but I didnt end up wanting to keep it. Seemed to fit the horses well, but not my body shape. Maybe its more designed for riders with really long legs? Went for a devacoux instead.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              I am interested in CWD's but can't seem to find a rep in Ontario. I have a Luc Childeric and it fits my horse well but I don't like where it puts me (it pitches me forward on him for some reason). Has anyone sat in these two saddles and compared them? Is the CWD deeper?

                              Also, is there anywhere that you can find them used?

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                I don't really understand how one tree can fit a really crazy range of different back shapes and TRULY fit. Maybe fit acceptably, but not fit the same way a custom wool flocked saddle would fit. I mean yes, if you get a reasonably wide tree, that is going to fit many back shapes with the addition of various types of padding-- but I think that's true of virtually any well made wide tree saddle. I don't think that's an especially unique claim of any particular saddle design.

                                Heck, when I was a kid, I had a Crosby PDN. I rode every horse I came across in that saddle and everyone said it 'fit.' Did I get bucked off? No. Did the horses have big rubs on their backs? No. Did it really and truly FIT all those different backs? No, it did not. It was acceptable, better on some than others, and some padding helped-- but it didn't really fit.

                                I understand the appeal of having a saddle work on various horses. But as an owner of a horse with a bad back, I can tell you that as nice and cushy and multipurpose as foam might be-- for some horses there is no substitute for wool that is actually custom fitted and conformed to his back. Yes, it compresses over time but foam breaks down over time so I don't really see that as a drawback. Could I eek by getting one saddle for my three horses? Probably. Would it really FIT, as in really and truly FIT as well as a custom fitted one? No, it wouldn't.

                                Which is not to say that sometimes you have to made do with one saddle for multiple horses-- but that's not the same as some kind of magic saddle that magically fits every bad it's put on. That's just not possible, notwithstanding claims to the contrary.

                                This is more a comment about saddles in general and less about CWD-- but get what FITS your horse. I mean FITS without a lot of padding/tinkering/gimmics and you'll be way ahead of the game.
                                ~Veronica
                                "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                                http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  In case you were not aware of it, CWD saddles can be ordered with wool flocking if that's what you prefer.

                                  Comment

                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BAC View Post
                                    In case you were not aware of it, CWD saddles can be ordered with wool flocking if that's what you prefer.
                                    I was not aware, thanks.

                                    Yes, I do realize that when you take one saddle and try to fit multiple shapes, sometimes it works, often it doesn't, and of the latter, sometimes you can pad properly and sometimes you can't.

                                    I'm still trying to get a feel for what folks are referring to when they had their (presumably) foam-filled saddle "re-fitted". A new set of memory foam? Is "memory foam" the same foam that is the "foam" of, say, a Crosby? Or are we talking an entirely different class of foam?

                                    They also have integrated panels, which I've heard about but not seen until I saw these demos. Are they really as good as the hype?
                                    ______________________________
                                    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      For what it's worth, I sat in one on my horse the other day. It had been built for a 16.3 Irish Draught cross; my horse is a 15.2 compact model. It fit him OK--tree was a little too wide and didn't really hug around his body as much as I would have liked, but it was OK and doable. Very comfortable saddle. Very well balanced. Loved the way it fit me. Would definitely consider buying one for myself.
                                      "I'm not always sarcastic. Sometimes I'm asleep." - Harry Dresden

                                      Amy's Stuff - Rustic chic and country linens and decor
                                      Support my mom! She's gotta finance her retirement horse somehow.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by JB View Post

                                        They also have integrated panels, which I've heard about but not seen until I saw these demos. Are they really as good as the hype?
                                        Unfortunately, I've heard that the saddles with integrated panels are not available with wool flocking. But I'm not certain about this.
                                        "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X