• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Help a Neurotic Owner Return to Rationality

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Help a Neurotic Owner Return to Rationality

    Posting under an alter because, well, I'm neurotic.

    Two days ago, I came out to ride my horse. She hadn't gone outside because it had been very cold and wet that day. She was a bit stiff when I started...not dead lame, but a bit stabby and short behind around the turn. I let her stretch out a bit and she seemed to work out of it and finished quite normal. I felt her legs for heat or swelling, and found neither. The only thing was a bit of a crack in her RH hoof - she had recently had her back shoes pulled for the winter. I wrapped her behind just as a precaution and decided to re-evaluate the next day.

    Yesterday, I pulled her out of her stall and she seemed okay. Legs still not fat, still not hot, but the crack in her hoof was worse and a chunk had come out. I tested it a bit and it wasn't sensitive, so I got on. Nope...something definitely not right. I got off, called the farrier (who was out the next day anyway) and made an appt with the vet.

    Farrier evaluated today and said definitely not an abscess, but there was inflamation at the white band on her hoof. He recommended bute and to have back shoes put back on. I left the shoes off for now, as I'd like the vet to have a decent look at her foot tomorrow, but I'm freaking out a bit after reading about and seeing pictures of white line disease. The inflammation combined with the compromised nature of her foot seem like classic signs of white line disease...anyone have any experience with this?

    I know the vet will have the best diagnosis for me tomorrow, but I just want to be prepared.

    ETA: Cross-posting in Horse Care as Well

  • #2
    FWIW, we had a lovely pony that had (and still does) White Line Disease in all four feet. She was never lame and never missed a day of work because of it. I would tend to think that a sudden or even a fairly gradual yet marked increase in lameness would be due to White Line Disease.

    Even when a horse's foot is resected drastically, it needn't follow that there will be lameness.
    Inner Bay Equestrian
    Facebook
    KERx

    Comment

    • Original Poster

      #3
      Originally posted by M. O'Connor View Post
      FWIW, we had a lovely pony that had (and still does) White Line Disease in all four feet. She was never lame and never missed a day of work because of it. I would tend to think that a sudden or even a fairly gradual yet marked increase in lameness would be due to White Line Disease.

      Even when a horse's foot is resected drastically, it needn't follow that there will be lameness.
      I'm glad to hear this...I've been browsing the internet and heard horror stories of WLD being career-ending. My horse's case (if that's what it truly is) looks nothing as bad as what is labeled "moderate" on google images, so I'm hoping that I was diligent enough to stop this before it gets bad.

      What did you use to treat your pony's WLD?

      Comment


      • #4
        My pony has had it off and on. Not a death sentence for, he has done very well. When it comes on we treat it and all is well. Wait for the vet and don't stress to much about it.
        Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

        Comment


        • #5
          We took a number of measures to get the WLD under control.

          The main thing is to keep the feet dry. Luckily, our pony was bay, and it was never very obvious that she rarely got a bath!

          Our farrier would give her very regular trims--and in between we'd keep the white line drizzled with merthiolate, and/or Thrush Buster. There are a number of preparations that can be used aside from these, but none seemed to be as effective. We'd pack any holes we could see with Keratex hoof putty (after shooting the Thrush Buster/Merthiolate up into the cracks with a syringe.

          And finally, our farrier decided it was time to resection:

          http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=P1010004.jpg

          He filled in the hoof with Equilox, and it adhered very well; we kept it dry (no baths!), which I'm sure helped, and it basically grew out and got trimmed along with the hoof.

          This measure MOSTLY eradicated the WLD, but we still needed to be careful, so always kept up the routines described above. Since her retirement, we haven't been as strict about keeping her feet totally dry, but she does very well, and is now 'at least' 27 going on 28, or maybe 'as much' as 31 going on 32.
          Inner Bay Equestrian
          Facebook
          KERx

          Comment


          • #6
            How long has it been since you pulled her hind shoes and what kind of footing were you riding her on? Sometimes it just takes a bit of time for them to get used to not having shoes on and it can make their feet a little more sensitive. Have you pulled her rear shoes other years with no problems?
            Lost in the Land of the Know It Alls

            Comment


            • #7
              My TB had white line in both front feet. Never was a problem for him even when he got resected pretty dramatically. We scrubbed every day with bleach with a toothbrush but I imagine there are probably better combos out there to treat it now. We just tried to be careful with him with wetness, etc. We ended up taking him to the University of Florida for the vet school farrier to do the resections to make sure they were done well.

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                Originally posted by Outfxed View Post
                How long has it been since you pulled her hind shoes and what kind of footing were you riding her on? Sometimes it just takes a bit of time for them to get used to not having shoes on and it can make their feet a little more sensitive. Have you pulled her rear shoes other years with no problems?
                It's been about a month...so 3 weeks of normalness, jumping up to about 1.20, gymnastics exercises, etc...nothing out of her normal routine. She's always had her back shoes pulled after the show season and has never had issue.

                No change to the footing. She was ridden on a variation of a nice sand indoor, a nice sand outdoor, and some flat-ish packed down trails...but I haven't ridden on any trails recently so a stone bruise or something of the sort is unlikely.

                I went out today and turpentined her foot to try and harden the walls so they stop breaking, gave her some bute and wrapped her in standing wraps, as she will be going on day 3 of standing in her stall. She didn't seem too off again today - sound at the walk and not resting the "bad" foot, so to speak. Fingers crossed for the vet tomorrow that it's minor!

                Comment


                • #9
                  It took my horse 15 months to get use to his back shoes being pulled. It was ugly for awhile and he is retired. I did put him on farriers formula which has helped a lot. Good luck, my other guy is a 5 year old OTTB and his back shoes stay on, it is just too hard to make the switch and I need for him to be worked at least a few times a week in the winter.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Just another reply on WLD- my old pony had it and it never caused any lameness. It was just something we noticed and the farrier confirmed. We had a spray, I think it was Save-A-Hoof or something (this was around 8 years ago) that we'd spray into the crack after picking it out. I don't remember doing anything other than that for it and as long as we kept up with getting him trimmed, it stayed pretty small. He wasn't a show horse or anything, but he never had a lame day.

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Just thought I'd update you guys since you took the time to share your wisdom.

                      Vet looked at horse and determined that she was definitely not right. He flexed her to rule out any tendon issues and she trotted the same before and after flexing (phew!). Also said it's NOT WLD (again, phew!). The wet weather combined with the timing of her shoe coming off just somehow irritated her bare sole and caused some inflamation in the hoof. A little rest, bute and turpentine to harden her foot until the farrier can put shoes back on Monday and we should be good to go!

                      Thanks again guys!

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X