My previous horse, who I started myself, was trained for eventing and had done a lot of dressage training/showing (it was her forte). We were not a good fit for each other so I ended up selling her....to an "A" circuit hunter where she had no trouble figuring out the hunter way of going pretty much instantly (give a little rein, she followed it). In addition, her dressage training meant she understood rhythm and adjustability, which is all good for jumping a hunter course.
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I started in dressage 3 years ago and starting jumping (hunters) last summer. I also specifically looked for dressage on the list of 'trained in' when I bought my gelding last summer - who could teach me how to jump. We jump 2x/wk in lessons, sometimes I put in a 3rd jump day (I'm learning, he's the pro) and we ride at least 1 day/wk in dressage tack, sometimes 2 when I add in a dressage lesson. Communication between my horse and I really developed in our dressage lessons. Collection, leg yields, etc was easy to apply when asked for during jump lessons (2 different trainers, but on the same wavelength). We also show dressage (training lvl) about twice a year - we score in the low/mid 60s.Originally posted by laurel3644 View PostI think dressage is a great basis for anything. Learning to go forward is important no matter what discipline you end up with. Every step should be productive!
I'm in my late 30s and I figure someday I or my horse won't be jumping anymore and at least we won't be newbies at dressage when we have stay on the ground
Bonus that I get to have 2 sets of tack, inc several blingy browbands
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All those imported WB hunters were started with dressage as a foundation. Far to many so called trainers think that "dressage" means shoving a huge bit in a horse's mouth and yanking him around whilst wearing huge spurs. Good basic dressage is a foundation for any type of riding.F O.B
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Linny is absolutely right, young dressage horses make excellent hunter prospects. That dressage training lends itself beautifully to flowing, smooth rounds in the hunter ring.
Good dressage training is critical. "Dressage" training that focuses on squeezing the horse into a frame won't help because the lack of true impulsion and connection/adjustability will show up very quickly when you start jumping. I mention this only because it has been my observation that some (typically novice) dressage riders confuse "collection" with "going slowly."
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AS a trainer I have been presented horses to ride that have had no good flat work(dressage if you will!) under their girths and ones thay have had decent starts with it and you can easily guess which ones are so much easier to start or improve the jumping process! How can a greenie learn to jump well if he doesn't understand the basics of going foreward softly into his bridle, shorteining his stride without objection or balancing himself well on corners when he doesn't under stand things like leg yield?
When I am in the market for a prospect I do peruse ads for dressage horses because I know most of them have probably had some good basics on them. You need to shop around for a new trainer!
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I usually don't feel obligated to explain my training decisions to anyone. That said, if she asks you could just say that you are focusing on your flatwork more heavily at the moment and are therefore putting jumping lessons on the back burner for a while.
The older I get, the less I worry about politics and hurting trainers' feelings. I sometimes even use a different trainer to do training rides on my horse than I use to take lessons with. Meh. I just do whatever works best for me and my horse and I don't really explain unless someone asks, which they usually don't.
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I'm with FA on this one. You don't belong to anyone and you don't owe her an explanation. Definitely be polite and don't burn any bridges. Saying that you are temporarily concentrating on something else is a good way to go. Don't make a big deal out of it, just don't schedule any more lessons. If your paths cross then be friendly and gracious and possibly thank her again for the lessons you did have.Originally posted by pwrpfflynn View PostThanks you guys now how do I tell the trainer Im not riding with her anymore
We have a small area jumping club & I don't want to make the trainer mad at me.
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