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  • Question about rules

    Hi all

    I was at a show today and my family was sitting on some logs away from the ring. My barn and several other barns had been sitting there earlier in the day watching barnmates show. I was the last class of the day (ick) so most of my barn had left and it was just my family. No horse had even looked at them. A lady was showing and her horse was looky and a little spooky at my family (my very non-horsey family) and she started mid-course screaming at them at the top of her lungs. She was on the other side of the ring and everyone could hear her (I was schooling so was not there). My family left embarassed and very understandably upset. No apology by the trainer or anything. I would like to lodge a complaint about her unsportsmanlike conduct. My family has just informed me they will never be going to another horse event ever again and it's taken me YEARS to get them to come. I thought that USEF and all of the horse associations out there are all about exposing the horse world to the public to get more awareness and encourage people to come and support us. I was wondering if anyone knew the procedures for this or even better the rules I could point out? I couldn't find her today but I plan to look for her tomorrow and talk to her and ask for an apology to my family. Just wondering.
    Thank you.

  • #2
    Don't bother looking for an apology, just chalk it up to experience.

    I had a rider yell at me (or about me) a few years back, I was standing about 10 or 20 feet outside the hunter ring getting ready to take pics of my friends rides. She had an ineffective inside leg and was not effective at steering her hot and spooky mare so she yelled "the braiding lady spooked my horse!" at her trainer. I know her trainer and her trainer is not stupid and told her to get her legs working and go do a practice course again LOL!! The rider and I are on friendly terms now, I'm not going to hold a grudge.

    If your family requires a perfect time everywhere whenever they go perhaps the sport of horse showing with it's inherently maniac and emotional participants is not for them. Honestly, sounds like they are taking advantage of the idiot riders rudeness to avoid coming again.

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    • #3
      I took some very well behaved children with me to a show last year where we sat politely on the bleachers just outside the entrance to the ring. I was shocked by the dirty looks and one lady even scolded the children because the bleachers made a noise when we walked across them to our seats (in between rounds, of course). I was a little bit appalled...I mean if you need spectators to be like statues for your horse to behave, I think you need some more time in the schooling ring at home and a few more local shows under your belt.

      I would just tell your parents that you run the risk of running into crazy, unreasonable people any time you step out into public, and unfortunately it was just bad luck they ran into one at this show.

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      • #4
        I think this is my biggest pet peeve - when riders scream at others who are doing NORMAL THINGS (or even not so normal things) outside of the ring.
        I like to use situations like this as a learning opportunity for my horse. In fact, when the rare bystander has spooked him, they usually apologize and I always respond with, "It's totally fine. He needs to get used to things like that!"

        How will you ever teach your horse to be accepting of new and different situations if you won't allow it to see or experience anything?
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        • #5
          Any trainer worth their salt, as well as any real horseperson knows, that that kind of rider anxiety transfers to the horse. The rider should be minding their own business at hand and using their skills to keep their horse mentally occupied and it's focus on them.

          Too bad no one thought to use their cell phone to record her - that could have started some fun. I've video taped riders behind the scenes beening abusive to their horses and taken that to mgt.

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          • #6
            Horse shows are great people watching opportunities kind of like Walmartians! You can see some really bizarre behaviors and you can learn what NOT to do!

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            • #7
              The very first time my friend and I spectated on an XC course a rider told us to "get the F off the course you can't be here" because she said we got her eliminated.

              We heard her coming three fences away because every time her horse stopped she used the same language and eventually got eliminated at our fence. Saw the stop coming a mile away.

              I was so upset we went and found the TD and asked them if we weren't allowed on course.
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              • #8
                It's really quite a shame that some competitors are so rude to spectators. Spectators are what draw sponsors to our sport. Having friends and family who enjoy coming to spectate is part of what makes it fun for competitors to continue coming to shows. It really doesn't take much to be friendly and welcoming to the folks that have come out to support our competitors and our sport.

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                • #9
                  I'm so sorry this happened - part of being at a show is that there will be like, other people. Riders need to learn to deal with it.
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                  They're small hearts.

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                  • #10
                    Actually happened to me before, I was sitting on the edge of the ring and a local trainer asked the owner of the horse that she was riding to tell me to move. She apologized for the incredibly green horse she was riding when I was walking back up to the barn, but IMO if your horse is spooking at someone sitting 10ft away, it should not be showing yet.
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                    • #11
                      Also a pet peeve of mine- horses should be use to normal things so when you do take them outside to ride or to a show they don't freak out and they pay attention to you. Some people just need to blame everything on someone else.
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                      • #12
                        As a spectator, i would not be appalled if someone POLITELY asked me to sit quietly because their horse is VERY Green,VERY spooky,what have you.
                        As a rider, if you could pop balloons, and encourage your kids to scream, etc, in fine with that. My horses have to get used to it (and most of them are before they get to a show ring).

                        This lady was obviously rude, out of line, and looking for an excuse. As far as rules or an apology, i don't think there is much you can do. If she were my student, she wouldn't have gotten away with it.

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                        • #13
                          Chalk it up to nervousness, and nothing else. Her horse could have spooked at a leaf on the ground, a dog, the announcer/PA system or the wind blowing in the trees. This time your family was an easy target for a nervous rider/horse. Explain this to them and hopefully they'll give it another try. Advise they sit in a common viewing area next time.

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                          • #14
                            Sheesh, these people who get bent out of shape about their horses spooking at the "small things" would never survive the chaos that is Devon.

                            I would just explain to you family that she was out of line and encourage them to come to another event. If they enjoyed the day aside from the experience with that one person, they will probably understand and give it another try.

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                            • #15
                              Yes, there are rude people everywhere, on both sides!

                              At the park I go to schooling shows at, it is a public park with jogging trails that go around the entire facility. Despite the fact that the trails say no bikes allowed, people go along there with hordes of bikes, strollers, skateboard, you name it- and the trail comes very close to the rings! I've also seen kids sit right outside of rings banging LOUDLY on brightly colored toys, and are running around screaming, and the parents never say anything.

                              I've never asked anyone to change their behavior, and I have come to realize it's good for my horse to be exposed to all of these things. if they can perform in slight chaos, they will be better off when something unexpected really happens.
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                              • #16
                                The lady was a #$*#& and your family members need to have a thicker skin. Silly on both sides imho.
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