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    Please help!!! My daughter is writing a paper on Nelson Pessoa for school. We can find no info on his early life: his parents, education, childhood, and his middle years - experiences, influences, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thankshttp://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

  • #2
    Suggest that you go to Rodrigo's website. There is a contact form there. Send an email and I would bet maybe Nelson himself may help you :-)
    www.midatlanticeq.com
    Mid-Atlantic Equitation Festival,Scholarships and College Fair
    November 11-13, 2016

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      Nelson Pessoa

      Yes, we sent two to his son and one to him and did not get a reply. Thanks!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dlynn View Post
        Please help!!! My daughter is writing a paper on Nelson Pessoa for school. We can find no info on his early life: his parents, education, childhood, and his middle years - experiences, influences, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thankshttp://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
        How do you cite "some person using a screen name on COTH" in a paper?
        www.OneJumpAhead.ca

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        • #5
          I never understand when anyone picks a barely-known person for a report/biography, etc. Especially a kid with limited resources. There are plenty of other horse people (and non) that you could use that actually have biographies out there, or at least plenty of information.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dazednconfused View Post
            I never understand when anyone picks a barely-known person for a report/biography, etc. Especially a kid with limited resources. There are plenty of other horse people (and non) that you could use that actually have biographies out there, or at least plenty of information.
            'Barely-known' ??
            Hardly. quite well known in SA and Europe.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dazednconfused View Post
              I never understand when anyone picks a barely-known person for a report/biography, etc. Especially a kid with limited resources. There are plenty of other horse people (and non) that you could use that actually have biographies out there, or at least plenty of information.
              Maybe some people are tired of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Also, kids tend to want to write about their heroes, which for horse-crazy kids are usually, uh, horse people.

              If someone wants to go the extra mile (and develop some research skills along the way... it's not all about getting an A as easily as possible.. some people actually learn transferable skills in school) to write about a huge figure in equestrian history, then more power to them.

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              • #8
                <I never understand when anyone picks a barely-known person for a report/biography>

                I totally understand ! Because it's something that matters to her. No disrespect to George Washington, et. al. It's something that makes her heart go "pitter-patter" instead of "sigh, book-report".

                Your daughter rocks, D Lynn. My kind of person.

                As for where, no real suggestions not mentioned. Maybe ask teacher that about writing about much admired person with limited references and see if it's o.k.

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                • #9
                  Here is an interview with Nelson Pessoa from which you can gleam some basic biographical info. I can't give you a word for word translation as my Portuguese is not great (mostly filtered through Spanish, to be honest).
                  http://www.flamengo.com.br/flapedia/4%C2%AA_Entrevista
                  Two things...
                  i) he'll be 77 this year, my God, that makes me feel old!!! (looks great for his age though).
                  ii) never knew about the connection with the Flamengo football club, that's interesting.

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                  • #10
                    Here is another article that list some of his major GP victories in Europe over the decades and the horses he was riding.
                    http://hipismobh.wordpress.com/2010/...essoa-75-anos/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Drvmb1ggl3 View Post
                      Here is an interview with Nelson Pessoa from which you can gleam some basic biographical info. I can't give you a word for word translation as my Portuguese is not great (mostly filtered through Spanish, to be honest).
                      http://www.flamengo.com.br/flapedia/4%C2%AA_Entrevista
                      Two things...
                      i) he'll be 77 this year, my God, that makes me feel old!!! (looks great for his age though).
                      ii) never knew about the connection with the Flamengo football club, that's interesting.
                      Not sure what browser you're using OP, but google Chrome translated the page fairly coherently for me

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rel6 View Post
                        Not sure what browser you're using OP, but google Chrome translated the page fairly coherently for me
                        You have to be careful with those Google translations though.
                        For example, this passge.....

                        Você é torcedor do Flamengo, certo? Conte um pouco sobre isso...
                        Nelson: Quando eu nasci, meu pai era América. Mas depois da minha passagem pelo Flamengo, onde tinhamos o contato com os jogadores, assistiamos aos treinos, passamos a fazer parte do dia-a-dia do clube, nós viramos Flamenguistas e eu sou até hoje.


                        Google translates that as....

                        Are you a fan of Flamengo, right? Tell us about it ...
                        Nelson: When I was born, my father was American . But after my time at Flamengo , where he had contact with the players watched the workouts, spent part of day-to-day club, Flamengo we turn and I am today.

                        Which is obviously not right. What that should be is.... "When I was born, my Dad was a fan of America (a Brasilian soccer team).....

                        An unsuspecting person could end up writing a paper that claims Nelson Pessoa's dad was American

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                        • #13
                          I found this... sounds like he started riding internationally before he was 18 http://www.rodrigopessoa.com/en/Nels...on-Pessoa.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dazednconfused View Post
                            I never understand when anyone picks a barely-known person for a report/biography, etc. Especially a kid with limited resources. There are plenty of other horse people (and non) that you could use that actually have biographies out there, or at least plenty of information.
                            Hahahahahah. Barely known? Hahahahah. how do we teach or learn from our history-especially those that are still with us.
                            Neco as he is known was/is a teacher/trainer that the whole world respects. His son has carried the torch, but many go to Neco's farm in Belgium to learn.
                            To describe Neco as barely known is just stupidity. And what do limited resources have to do with it? Just so rude.
                            I would say that you are way closer to hearing from Neco now due to these rude posters. And if you don't within 48 hours, please contact me. I assure you that I will at least get you in touch with Rodrigo.
                            www.midatlanticeq.com
                            Mid-Atlantic Equitation Festival,Scholarships and College Fair
                            November 11-13, 2016

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                            • #15
                              What a cool idea for a report.
                              "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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                              • #16
                                Book that can be purchased for very little on Amazon : The World of Show Jumping/ Neil ffrench Blake, 1967 Has a few great photos of Neco and a small interview as well as opinions of his incredible horsemanship. Get the book , it is an incredible history of the sport.
                                www.midatlanticeq.com
                                Mid-Atlantic Equitation Festival,Scholarships and College Fair
                                November 11-13, 2016

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                                • #17
                                  Book that can be purchased for very little on Amazon : The World of Show Jumping/ Neil ffrench Blake, 1967 Has a few great photos of Neco and a small interview as well as opinions of his incredible horsemanship. Get the book , it is an incredible history of the sport.
                                  www.midatlanticeq.com
                                  Mid-Atlantic Equitation Festival,Scholarships and College Fair
                                  November 11-13, 2016

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                                  • #18
                                    I have a book called Clear Round. Interviews by Julia Longland.
                                    One of the interviews in the book is with Nelson Pesso. They give a brief biography:
                                    "Born 16th December 1935, in Rio de Janeiro, Nelson (Neco) was taught to ride at the age of eight by his father, a real-estate agent. Nelson followed his father into the property buisness, but became increasingly involved in the local riding club's showjumping contest. In 1956, he took the final place in the Brazilian Olympic team of Stockholm, and five years later moved to Geneva, where he built up a very successful string of South American horses, Notably Gran Gest and Epartaco."
                                    There is more and her interview is interesting if you can find the book or maybe google her name she contributed to UK equestrian periodicals.
                                    M
                                    Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from behind, or a fool from any direction

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                                    • #19
                                      I lived in Rio for two years and understand Portuguese. I can help translate that article. Or ask me if you have specific questions, and I can try to get answers.

                                      Originally posted by Monarch View Post
                                      I have a book called Clear Round. Interviews by Julia Longland.
                                      Is this the same book that has Hans Günter Winkler, Frank Chapot, and a story of a super exciting "final four" with Pessoa and three other greats? Please tell me it is! Does it also have a story of a woman from the UK who had a horse that I think was named Moxie? If so, I've been looking for this book for years and years.

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                                      • #20
                                        Thanks Discobold for your offer but it is written in english and yes I believe it is the same book. Debbie Johnsey and Moxy are in it. Michael Matz, Eddie Macken and Rodney Jenkins just to add a few others to the list you already stated. It is a good read.
                                        M
                                        Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from behind, or a fool from any direction

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