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  • Saddles For Narrowed Horses??

    Hello,

    Most of you know my horse Beautiful. I may be getting a used
    Stubben Artus saddle in a 31cm. What does that equil to? Im going to try it on Beautiful first to make sure it fits her and me.

  • #2
    I think Stubben trees span from around 27/28 cm to 32 cm - so I guess a 31 cm would be a fairly wide tree?
    LEGADO DE RIOS

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      #3
      The reveiws that I've done on them it's a req to med tree. 32cm is a med-wide to wide. It have wool flocking in the pannels.

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        #4
        http://www.vtosaddlery.com/saddlefaq.htm

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        • #5
          I thought you had said once that you were going to work with a saddle fitter? For as many saddles that you have bought for you and your lovely mare that have not fit, I would hope that you'd work with a saddle fitter this time!

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            #6
            All of the saddle fitters are "reps" so no I will not be working with a "rep"....as I have no money for a saddle fitter and my budget is Under $600.00. dont ask im not going to fight with anyone on here.

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            • #7
              Call Stubben and find out.

              Better yet, work with a reputable store online that will help you find something that will fit both Beautiful and you. Try Rick's saddlery or Trumbull Mountain.

              Based on the many pictures you've posted of Beautiful, I would think something other than a Stubben would fit her better. I would recommend a used collegiate or similar brand.

              You can get mad all you want, but when you post here asking for help, people will be honest in offering you advice whether you like it or not. You have had so many saddles through the years that have not fit Beautiful. Why not get it right this time? Quit guessing if something fits. You don't have to spend more than your budgeted amount to get it right.

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              • #8
                To me, a 31cm. Stubben in a medium/regular tree. Stubben's are pretty curvy, at least the one's I've seen. (And sending tracings to a tack shop that does saddle fitting only cost the the price of paper/curve/postage...I strongly suggest doing that!)
                "On the back of a horse I felt whole, complete, connected to that vital place in the center of me...and the chaos within me found balance."

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                • #9
                  Can't really give any advice on the Stubben's as I am not that familiar with the fit. However, my boarder, whose wb/tb cross will be 6 this spring and is 18.2 (yes, that's correct) & still growing, had to go with a Stubben as that was the only saddle she could find at The Tack Room in Camden that would fit both her (at 6' tall & all leg) and her horse without going custom.

                  Have you tried one of the saddle brands that have the interchangeable gullets, along with a knowledgeable fitter who can help? That may be a better option than buying yet another saddle that won't work out in the long run.
                  Crayola posse~ orange yellow, official pilot
                  Proud owner of "High Flight" & "Shorty"

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                  • #10
                    Tiffany, have you called all your local tack shops to see if any of them have a saddle fitter on staff that is not a rep? One of the shops I use has a fitter on staff and she brings out many different saddles and we try them on the horses and she picks the ones that fit the horse and then we are able to ride in them for a week or so to see which saddles work for the rider.

                    She's not a rep, so she's not trying to push a particular brand, and she doesn't charge anything if we purchase a saddle from her shop. If we don't, it's only $50 for her time.
                    "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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                    • #11
                      I have a saddle fitter who travels through PA who reps for 2 brands but has flat out told people that the different tree style, etc. of another brand will work. If she sells you a saddle of her 2 brands that doesn't work, she's not doing her job. Trust me, Tiffany, it's worth the investment!
                      Proud member of the "I'm In My 20's and Hope to Be a Good Rider Someday" clique

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                      • #12
                        For Stuebbens, as a general rule:
                        28 - Narrow
                        29 - Med-Narrow
                        30 - Med
                        31 - Med-Wide
                        32 - Wide

                        There are some 27s and 31.5s... the 31.5 is a different tree and therefore will fit differently (and doesn't fit into this generalization). Stuebbens often run narrow compared to many other brands. My medium tree Dover Circuit Eventer (which ran a bit wide) fit wider than my 31cm Stuebben. A med-wide Stuebben is more like a med to med-narrow compared to a lot of other saddles. They seem to be designed for more of a TB type.
                        If we have to nail on talent, it's not talent.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
                          Tiffany, have you called all your local tack shops to see if any of them have a saddle fitter on staff that is not a rep? One of the shops I use has a fitter on staff and she brings out many different saddles and we try them on the horses and she picks the ones that fit the horse and then we are able to ride in them for a week or so to see which saddles work for the rider.

                          She's not a rep, so she's not trying to push a particular brand, and she doesn't charge anything if we purchase a saddle from her shop. If we don't, it's only $50 for her time.
                          Unfortunately in Tiffany's area (I lived there a year and a half for college), tack shops are few and far between, especially ones with English stock. I gather that is one of the reasons Tiffany has had such a difficult time finding a saddle. I always waited until I was home to buy anything for my horse that required any kind of fitting, because it was too much of a pain in the a** at school.

                          Tiff I would speak with a company like Trumball Mt which will work with you over the phone. You obviously have saddles you can use in the meantime (if they are that bad look into corrective padding), so maybe wait until you've saved up more before buying something else just for the sake of it which yet again wont fit?
                          "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                          "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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                          • #14
                            Tried a Stubben on my Paint mare Dolly (smaller than Beautiful, but still has that type of build) and they did NOT fit!! They don't fit my han either, like somebody else said they seem to fit a slimmer built horse.

                            Please do not buy a saddle until you can at least try it and check it for proper fit! Most good stores will do a once over and fit for about $50 around here (and then take that off the price of the saddle if you buy it), so I'm assuming you won't have to pay through the nose where you are.
                            Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tiffany01 View Post
                              I may be getting a used
                              Stubben Artus saddle in a 31cm. What does that equil to? Im going to try it on Beautiful first to make sure it fits her and me.
                              EQUAL.

                              sorry misspellings drive me insane.

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                              • #16
                                If you can up your spending limit just a little (maybe to around $800/850) you may be able to get a nice, new Thorowgood custom fitted to Beautiful. Kate Wilson from Dutchess Saddlery sells them and she will come to your area. Someone I know has two. They fit the horses well and are nice for the price. Are they going to pass for a Hermes? No, they're not. But they're nice, functional, have interchangeable gullets, and do the job well for the price. You will like Kate, she's not out to "sell you" or upcharge you or talk you into something you can't afford. Tell her what you want and what you can spend and she'll do what she can to make it work.
                                ~Veronica
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                                  #17
                                  I called Stubben and she said that the 31cmis a med. Im going to try it out of Beautiful and see if she'll let me keep the saddle for a week.

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                                  • #18
                                    I have owned a Stubben Artus for the last 13 years, just upgraded to a Stubben Roxanne. I loved the saddle and is very durable. I wont sell it because I like to so much. It is easy to flock to have it fitted and it most definitely will be a long lasting investment.

                                    I know there are people who love or hate them, say they are hard or not. But my experience has been wonderful with the saddle and I dont find them that soft. If you want to know anymore just PM me.

                                    I called Stubben for my new saddle and they came out and did a fitting, to see what was best for my horse, for free. They are a great company and dont try to get money where they can.
                                    Calm & Collected, 13, OTTB
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Tiffany01 View Post
                                      I called Stubben and she said that the 31cmis a med.
                                      Why do you ask if you are not going to believe the answer anyone give you?

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                                        Why do you ask if you are not going to believe the answer anyone give you?
                                        I think (hope) most who still answer Tiffany's threads know that chances are she will go with the original idea no matter what we suggest.
                                        "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                                        "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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