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  • Dear George,

    I just got one of those eblasts about the latest equitation winner in Wellington. She's laying on her horses neck, using a crappy release and her legs are swung back way behind the girth.

    Please tell me why this is winning? Do none of the judges care? Does no one have any good basics anymore?


    Her horse is tasty, but I watched at least 10 pony riders at a little bitty schooling show last weekend whose heels were down and rode crummy little bucking, stopping ponies and did not fall off.


    Flame away, but I don't care how nice your horse is or how many nice horses you have. Ride correctly, not "in fadshion".

  • #2
    Yep. I agree with you 100%. I also think that the kids that have the nasty little bucking ponies end up with better equitation because if their leg slips back or they are laying on the pony's neck etc. they will end up on the ground. You learn quickly when falling off is the consequence! Ride really nice, well trained horses all the time and you aren't put in that situation. Just my $0.02.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Reagan View Post
      Yep. I agree with you 100%. I also think that the kids that have the nasty little bucking ponies end up with better equitation because if their leg slips back or they are laying on the pony's neck etc. they will end up on the ground. You learn quickly when falling off is the consequence! Ride really nice, well trained horses all the time and you aren't put in that situation. Just my $0.02.
      From experience, I can tell you that the kids with 'nasty little bucking ponies' learn to ride with a chair seat, tight reins, not much release and are less soft, forgiving riders. They can 'get it done', but no way they are as good or better than the people taking a highly trained horse around a difficult 3'6" course. As for those 'well trained horses', I can guarantee you I could ride a nasty pony better than a horse so in tune to the aids that a bit of stiffness, unbalance, or shift of body weight affects the horse.
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      • #4
        That's genius -- maybe all horse show classes should be judged on one still photo. Think of the money we could save.

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        • #5
          I don't know what picture you're talking about, but I am going to go out on a limb here an assume that you did not watch the whole class, from the vantage point of the judge?

          A picture captures one moment in time. The judge saw each round in its entirety and judged this girl to be the best of what occurred on that particular day.
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          • #6
            I'm having a hard time reconciling the gist of your post with your tagline.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Big_Grey_hunter View Post
              As for those 'well trained horses', I can guarantee you I could ride a nasty pony better than a horse so in tune to the aids that a bit of stiffness, unbalance, or shift of body weight affects the horse.
              So true. I remember the first time I got to ride my instructor's daughter's big eq horse that had been made up by Otto Hueckeroth (sp?) and been to the finals at MSG. After years of riding those nasty bucking ponies and all kinds of difficult school horse, I thought it would be a snap. While it was an amazing experience, you are so right about them being in tune to any kind of stiffness or slight movement, he was running away with me at the trot LOL and I had no way of stopping him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AmmyByNature View Post
                That's genius -- maybe all horse show classes should be judged on one still photo. Think of the money we could save.
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                • #9
                  Pass the popcorn please...
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                  • #10
                    Since a photo is a moment in time, maybe the wrong question is being asked. Maybe a better question would be, who chose that photo to represent the winning rider?

                    This is of course making the assumption that someone winning a big eq class in wellington would have at least a few pictures showcasing their equitation...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JustMyStyle View Post
                      Since a photo is a moment in time, maybe the wrong question is being asked. Maybe a better question would be, who chose that photo to represent the winning rider?
                      Big like!!

                      I don't suppose the OP could post a link to the photo?
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                      • #12
                        This thread is pretty useless without photos.
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                        • #13
                          This thread is pretty useless with or without photos.
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                          • #14
                            Did we seriously start another thread about how H/J/Eq riders suck, based entirely upon bashing a child rider?
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                              She's not a little kid

                              And if the one moment in the class over the apex of the jump showed her laying on her hands up the horse's neck with her legs back waaaaaay behind the girth is a bad picture, it's because that's the position she was in at the time.


                              A bucking pony is harder than a "well trained horse over a difficult 3'6" course"?

                              Nope, not one single bit.


                              And whoever said that pony riders develop a chair seat and tough hands really has no clue. What it does, is develop balance and an independant seat and hands.

                              Say what you will, you can't take a picture if the moment didn't happen.

                              Easy to pose and steer.

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                              • #16
                                Yep, all the eq kids these days are terrible. So do the hunter riders.

                                Easy to armchair qb and judge
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by 2ndyrgal View Post
                                  Easy to pose and steer.
                                  Easy to post and judge.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by AmmyByNature View Post
                                    Easy to post and judge.
                                    But is easy to post and judge ... with no stirrups Sorry I couldn't resist.

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                                    • #19
                                      She is a junior rider. That makes her a minor.

                                      Therefore - you started a thread with the purpose of bashing a child. Outstanding.
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                                      • #20
                                        i kinda agree...dont hate me

                                        I see this "bad" eq in all sorts of magazines right next to articles about good eq.

                                        Some of the top riders have terrible eq yet they are so soft that the horses go so nice for them. It like....goes against everything Ive been taught. Why do I stuggle so much with "good" eq then. Shouldnt I just try to be soft?

                                        I hate jumping ahead. Its an epidemic. I do it probably 80% of the time though. Sigh.

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