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Looking into purchasing a new (used) saddle

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  • Looking into purchasing a new (used) saddle

    And need advice on some good brands as well as the value of my current one and where to advertise it.

    I currently have a 17" wide tree Crosby PDN Lynn Palm with a front block, no padding. I think the flap is short. (this is the exact saddle actually, except in a different size). I realize they are NOT popular, and everyone hates riding in my saddle because they complain there's "nothing there". It was a chestnut-ish color, but has darked some with oil. It is in good condition, billets are fine, billet protectors (is that what they're called?) are there, no stitching is loose, but it has a couple scratches and nicks on it. I'm wondering what an appropriate asking price would be and where I should advertise it. I'd prefer to attempt to sell it myself first...has anyone had good success on ebay?

    Next, what are some saddle brands/models you would recommend for me? I am hoping to find a nice used saddle for preferably $1000 or under, possibly $1250. I am used to a very flat seat with hardly any padding and am more comfortable with a flatter seat but want knee padding. I am long from hip to knee so would probably need either a forward flap or a long flap. My old trainer had a 17.5" County Stablilizer XTR which I believe has a more forward flap, and that fit my leg better and I really liked that saddle in general, so something similar to that would be great. My horses' go in a medium tree.

    Any suggestions?

    -$1250 & under, used
    -Flatter seat
    -Knee roll
    -At least knee block
    -17" or 17.5"
    -Medium tree
    -Wither clearance for TB's

    Here are the options I've narrowed it down to:

    Nelson Pessoa- $595

    Pessoa Rodrigo- $795

    Pessoa A/O- $850

    Prestige Golden Star- $995

    Prestige Elite- $1000

    Albion Legend- $1095

    Pessoa Legacy XL- $1095

    Arc de Triomphe Gazelle- $1250

    County Stabilizer- $1395

    Stackhouse DGS- $1500
    Last edited by Crown Royal; Feb. 24, 2012, 08:16 PM.

  • #2
    I love the old Nelson Pessoas. Amazing quality and balance. I vote for either 3 of 5!
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    • #3
      Try a different Stubben model. Not all of them have a deep seat like the Roxannes. The Siegfrieds are much flatter and have much less padding to them. I really like them a lot. The Edelweiss is billed as a close contact jumping saddle. I like those as well.


      • #4
        The Siegfried has a deep seat and a big thigh block and knee roll. I don't think the OP would like it. I agree that she might like the Edelweiss, though.
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        • #5
          I agree with Dewey about the Siegfrieds, don't think it is what the OP is looking for but the Edelweiss is a good option.

          Have you considered an Ashland? They are flat and unpadded, lovely quality leather and reasonably priced, you should be able to find a used one in your price range easily.

          Pessoa makes a very decent saddle that would fit your budget too. And just noticed you have the Beval LTD on your list, that meets your requirements and I find them comfortable and well balanced.

          Have you considered working with Trumbull Mtn.? Everyone seems to find their perfect saddle through them.


          • #6
            Beval has a Gold Cup, as well as some Pessoa A/O's on their used saddle website right now



            • #7
              I have the GenX, I've had it for 7 years, still looks grand new. Fairly comfortable & well made. Didn't oil quite as dark as I would have liked but people think it's a lot more expensive than it was (had someone who had a nona garson prestige want to trade, but honesty got the best of me )


              • Original Poster

                Thanks guys...every little bit helps! Do you guys like blocks on your saddles? Does it make a huge difference if there is no knee block (my plain flapped saddle has a knee block)?


                • #9
                  Here's another consignment source:


                  You have to click on the menu for the type of saddle you are looking for and then there's a drop-down menu for sizes.
                  2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

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                  • Original Poster

                    Originally posted by TheHorseProblem View Post
                    Here's another consignment source:


                    You have to click on the menu for the type of saddle you are looking for and then there's a drop-down menu for sizes.

                    They have a County Stabilizer! For around $1400 though...I think my budget might have just gone up.


                    • Original Poster

                      What about a Stackhouse Merit Jumper...for $850 in VERY good condition?

                      Second to last saddle


                      • #12
                        Since you asked, Prestiges do not fit like the seat size marked.

                        16 fits like 16 1/2 or 16 3/4
                        17 fits like 17 1/2
                        18 fits like 18 or 18 1/4

                        Albion, ADT, and Prestiges tend towards more wither clearance.

                        In my experience, many of the Bevals do not have much wither clearance.


                        • #13
                          Try taking a look at the Exselle brand of saddles, especially if you're a fan of Crosby and don't like too much saddle.

                          I sold my Childeric after finally admitting to myself it was too small, and picked up an Exselle for a song. I've had 3 Crosby saddles prior to this one, all of which I liked - and the Exselle is basically the same idea.

                          You can definitely find one - even new, in your price range.

                          Edited to add - these saddles generally work for the high-withered crowd.
                          Last edited by Spud&Saf; Feb. 24, 2012, 04:41 PM.
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                          • Original Poster

                            Originally posted by joiedevie99 View Post
                            Since you asked, Prestiges do not fit like the seat size marked.

                            16 fits like 16 1/2 or 16 3/4
                            17 fits like 17 1/2
                            18 fits like 18 or 18 1/4

                            Albion, ADT, and Prestiges tend towards more wither clearance.

                            In my experience, many of the Bevals do not have much wither clearance.

                            Thank you! I will delete the Bevals from my list...wither clearance is VERY important to me as pretty much all I ride are OTTB's with high withers. That's one of the other problems with my current saddle, in combination with it being a wide (definitely not suitable for my guys).


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Crown Royal View Post
                              What about a Stackhouse Merit Jumper...for $850 in VERY good condition?

                              Second to last saddle
                              That's the one I am looking at because my horse is narrow.

                              There's a yummy-looking Prestige 32cm 17 inch Golden Star.
                              2012 goal: learn to ride like a Barn Rat

                              A helmet saved my life.


                              • #16
                                If you like your Crosby, perhaps you can find a used Crosby Equilibrium. Some of those have a padded flap, often with a small knee block.

                                The Stubben Siegfried CS is entirely different from the traditional Siegfried, more in line with your requirements. The seat is fairly flat, there's a padded flap and a small, forward knee block.
                                Here's one I saw on ebay:

                                I have the Pessoa Rodrigo XCH (exchangeable gullet plate) and I love it. I had been a collector of various saddles, but since I got the Pessoa, I've sold most of them and bought no more, because I like the Pessoa so well. The seat's not as flat as what you have now, but flat enough for jumping. I've had it on a couple of horses at our barn that have fairly sharp withers, and it's fit them well.

                                Countys are lovely, but it may be hard to find one, even used, in your price range.

                                Good luck with your search.


                                • #17
                                  Yup...you will pry my Equilibrium from my cold, dead hands.


                                  • #18
                                    Killington!!! Love the make of the saddle and SUPER comfortable.