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Elastic Breastplates *update post 21* Apparently my horse needs size ginormous

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  • Elastic Breastplates *update post 21* Apparently my horse needs size ginormous

    Generally I prefer not to use a breastplate on a jumper as a I don't want to restrict shoulder movement.

    It seems however I may end up needing one with my current jumper. Trying to decide between a fully elastic one such as http://www.nunnfiner.com/Nunn-Finer-...plate-p/84.htm

    or one that is all leather with the smaller elastic insert

    http://www.greenhawk.net/cgi-local/S...ad6+1329132412

    What are the benifits/ cons of each. Which do you prefer and why.

    My horse tends to rub easily so one worry is that a full elastic one may make him hairless.

    Thanks for any opinions.
    Last edited by Jive; Feb. 28, 2012, 09:01 PM.

  • #2
    I have the antares...it is beautiful!

    I also have the other nunn finer elastic breastplate, but not that one.

    Have never noticed any rubbing or restriction with either on XC.

    I must say because I am a hunter I thought the antares was drool worthy and got a fabulous price on it for my event horse.

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    • #3
      I have the nunn finer one and it is pretty great. Lasts forever and I have never had a problem with it rubbing even my most sensitive horses. Going on five years strong with minimal stretch.
      I am on my phone 90% of the time. Please ignore typos, misplaced lower case letters, and the random word butchered by autocowreck.

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        #4
        Thanks for the opinions. I guess a lot depends on personal preference. I had a beige elastic one years ago, but i discovered this summer that some mice decided to snack on it.

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        • #5
          I think it's totally personal preference. I personally don't like the look of elastic breastplates, and prefer the all leather ones.

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          • #6
            I love the Nunn Finer, but I have the elastic breastplate with a standing attachment.
            I've used it everyday for five years and it's still holding up.

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            • #7
              To tag along to the original post, how do you guys clean the elastic? I only use breastplates for foxhunting so they are on for several hours at a time and come back sweat and mud encrusted. I have wiped them with water etc but finally switched to all leather just so I could keep them clean. Just wondering.

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              • #8
                Something to keep in mind is get a leather one if you ever want to use it in the hunters or equitation. You never know!

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                • #9
                  stupid question - but do you mean you can't use an elastic breastplate in the eq / medal classes?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mercedespony View Post
                    stupid question - but do you mean you can't use an elastic breastplate in the eq / medal classes?
                    You could.. but in the hunters/eq you want to have as little tack as possible/very discreet.. therefore you would use a leather breastplate over an elastic one.

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                    • #11
                      I just bought an Ovation all leather one for my cob sized Haffie and it looks really nice and third the price of the "fancy" all leather ones, perfect fit. Now whether it holds up or not remains to be seen, but so far love it..

                      $100 vs. $273 I will try it out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ponyclubrocks View Post
                        To tag along to the original post, how do you guys clean the elastic? I only use breastplates for foxhunting so they are on for several hours at a time and come back sweat and mud encrusted. I have wiped them with water etc but finally switched to all leather just so I could keep them clean. Just wondering.
                        I have an elastic breastgirth and I clean it like this:
                        1. fill smallish bucket with water and horse shampoo suds
                        2. put elastic part of breastgirth into sudsy water, allowing the leather ends to hang over the edge of the bucket so they don't get wet (if a little bit of them ends up in the water, it's ok)
                        3. allow to soak anywhere from 30 min-2 hours.
                        4.take a kitchen scrub brush and scrub the elastic (both sides!) until there's no more gunk
                        5. dump out bucket (water should be all gross at this point)
                        6. fill bucket with fresh water & swish elastic around. Spray elastic with water to get remaining suds off.
                        7. allow to dry outside out of direct sunlight (although some direct sunlight may help kill off mildew, actually, I hadn't thought about this before. But as a general rule, you don't want to leave leather in the sun.)

                        There you have it, clean elastic!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bluebuckets View Post
                          I have an elastic breastgirth and I clean it like this:
                          1. fill smallish bucket with water and horse shampoo suds
                          2. put elastic part of breastgirth into sudsy water, allowing the leather ends to hang over the edge of the bucket so they don't get wet (if a little bit of them ends up in the water, it's ok)
                          3. allow to soak anywhere from 30 min-2 hours.
                          4.take a kitchen scrub brush and scrub the elastic (both sides!) until there's no more gunk
                          5. dump out bucket (water should be all gross at this point)
                          6. fill bucket with fresh water & swish elastic around. Spray elastic with water to get remaining suds off.
                          7. allow to dry outside out of direct sunlight (although some direct sunlight may help kill off mildew, actually, I hadn't thought about this before. But as a general rule, you don't want to leave leather in the sun.)

                          There you have it, clean elastic!
                          Thanks! Sounds effective but doing this 2 or 3 times a week seems like too much effort! For now I will stick with the all leather!

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                          • #14
                            To me the leather has a better appearance and is easier to care for. I also feel like leather has a longer lifespan than elastic. So, my preference is for the leather with smaller elastic inserts.

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                            • #15
                              I think many breastplates restrict movement and rub. So like the OP, I prefer not to use one.

                              But if I had to, I'd do what the PROFESSIONALS in the race world use. Think of how much money is on the line with these TBs that do timber racing/steeplechasing? To me, that is the ultimate test of running and jumping. What do they use to keep their horses from feeling restricted, thus allowing total freedom and comfort? A BREASTGIRTH.

                              I only like a breastgirth if it is properly attached to the SIDES (at girth/near billet straps) and used with a wither strap.

                              I do NOT like a breastgirth if used directly attached to the D's. That makes it more apt to interfere at the bottom of the windpipe. And I feel it pulls on the saddle all wrong.

                              This is, IMHO, the most comfortable and effective way to keep a saddle from slipping back if you have fit issues or conformational issues or just are tearing around so fast/high that you need the stability.

                              This is a "prettier version" if you want leather for looks, durability or what have you. It has elastic built into the sides. I LOVE THIS ONE.

                              I've seen horses develop welt-like rubs on their chests from regular breastplates. I've also seen sensitive mares that don't like the strap tight between their pectoral muscles.

                              This is the one I have, and you can see the leather piece at the front allowing one to easily use a running with it. (it currently collects dust though

                              Here's another photo showing a timber-racer with one. These guys would never use ANYTHING that would restrict movement. It is simple, effective and very comfortable for the horse.

                              I am probably the only person here that is such a fan of these breastgirths, used and attached in the manner described. They aren't en vogue in any discipline these days, except racing But I still prefer them over any other type.
                              Last edited by Fancy That; Feb. 19, 2012, 11:28 AM.
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                              • #16
                                Hey Fancy That, where would I buy one of the above breastgirths? I use one on my mare, but it is one of the ones that attaches to the D rings. I didn't know the other kind existed, and it looks more stable and comfortable.

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                                • #17
                                  It's a $17 piece of leather called a Wither Strap - easy

                                  Originally posted by bluebuckets View Post
                                  Hey Fancy That, where would I buy one of the above breastgirths? I use one on my mare, but it is one of the ones that attaches to the D rings. I didn't know the other kind existed, and it looks more stable and comfortable.
                                  Hey Blue - I have a very easy answer for you. Most breastgirths do NOT come with the wither strap. All you need is to buy THAT, and use it along with your current breastgirth.

                                  Then you just attach your breastgirth at the billet strap/girth sides, and the wither strap just goes over-top to help keep it from sagging down too LOW.

                                  NunnFiner sells them, but of course I got mine directly from Bartville Harness (they make the NF ones) for $17 This one:
                                  http://www.horseloverz.com/Nunn-Fine...pr-480254.html

                                  Oh, I just noticed they call it a Neck Strap. Same thing
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                                  • #18
                                    Some of these pieces of equipment consist of so much elastic, I have to wonder how much they really hold the saddle in place!
                                    Last edited by MHM; Feb. 19, 2012, 02:02 PM.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by MHM View Post
                                      Some of these pieces of equipment consist of so much elastic, I have to wonder how much they really hold the saddle in place!
                                      Well, quality elastic is going to be stronger (and doubled, etc)

                                      Also, they shouldn't be holding a saddle in place. Simply stabilzing

                                      If one has a saddle that fits really well, I don't think most horses would need breastplates/breastgirths. (unless they have extreme conformation)

                                      And when I say "most horses", it's also implying that most riders arent' galloping ginormous fences over hill and dale. I get it, for foxhunters galloping and jumping, and for Upper Level Eventers (XC).....but what I REALLY don't get is using them on the flat/dressage
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Fancy That View Post
                                        Hey Blue - I have a very easy answer for you. Most breastgirths do NOT come with the wither strap. All you need is to buy THAT, and use it along with your current breastgirth.
                                        Thanks so much!

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