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  • super cheap Amerigo Saddle on ebay

    I wanted to your opinions on this saddle. I have had a few exchanges with the seller and its just a little weird.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/230700062335...ht_7470wt_1139

    The first thing is that its obviously not a 12" saddle. They refuse to remeasure stating repeatedly that it is measured correctly even after I have sent them descriptions and a photo of where to measure correctly and also mentioned the saddle, much less Amerigo do not come in 12" and that would be a small child's saddle

    They refuse to give the serial # saying that if they gave that it could then be registered by who ever has the # and that person could list it as stolen. I have told them that not giving it points to it being stolen and there is info that could be useful within the serial #. Such as the seat size. They say they can give any info needed from the serial # but don't know who to contact about that.

    And lastly, is the tree broken? There is something funky looking about it. They state nothing is broken on the saddle.

    I have told them that the people bidding are most likely (like I am at this point) watching to see how much it will go for, and if they can get it cheap enough they will fix it and then sell it for quite a bit more than they bought it for since no one knows what size the saddle is!

    Am I just paranoid that there is something odd about this listing or does any one get that too? I do have the exchanges between us but I have to get to work here in a minute. I may have sent it to Amerigo this morning.....Not sure they will get it in time or do anything but I can try. Thoughts?

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    I have told them that the people bidding are most likely (like I am at this point) watching to see how much it will go for, and if they can get it cheap enough they will fix it and then sell it for quite a bit more than they bought it for since no one knows what size the saddle is!
    Not sure why you'd share this information if you want the saddle as cheaply as possible

    The seller has an ebay store so it should be easy enough to protect yourself should you wish to return the saddle (especially as it's sold wth a 14day return policy)

    Yes there is something funky with the degree of flex seen in the photos.

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      My original intent was to see where the saddle went and to try to get the correct info, if it would have fit me I would have been more willing to buy it and fix it. At this point with the sellers refusal to measure correctly or give the serial # it seems to fishy and I don't want to give them my mone even aS a fix and resell project.

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      • #4
        You only get a deep crease like that with a broken tree. And replacing a tree is basically building a new saddle - expensive. You'd do well to keep looking. This isn't a bargain.
        Patience pays.

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        • #5
          That definitely shouldn't look like that.
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          • #6
            If you look at where they have measured the saddle, you can extrapolate from the 12" and 14" measurement lines to draw a line button to cantle, if you want an approx seat size.

            Agree that the crease looks weird. Sounds like it fell off the back of a truck.

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            • #7
              The tree appears to be broken and twisted. They seller does not know how to measure saddles, that line they drew to get the "12 has nothing to do with anything. I doubt the seller is a horse or saddle person and they have no clue what they are selling. I'd stay a million miles away from that one...even if it were free. Also, if that dot to dot measurement is accurate, it's a very narrow gullet/tree.

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              • #8
                There is no way I'd put that saddle on any horses back.

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                • #9
                  Looks like a broken tree to me.

                  I'm not surprised it no-saled at 99c.

                  ETA: If the tree is in fact broken and shoved upwards at that angle, I *guess* the measurement from cantle to nailhead could measure out at a 12....

                  Looking at their other items, they don't seem like they regularly sell any equestrian items, so them saying 'nothing's broken' on it doesn't really hold much water. And looking at their negative feedback, seems a lot of their sold items are broken upon (or prior to, most likely) arrival.
                  Last edited by ohrebecca; Nov. 16, 2011, 05:54 PM. Reason: added stuff
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ohrebecca View Post
                    Looks like a broken tree to me.

                    I'm not surprised it no-saled at 99c.

                    ETA: If the tree is in fact broken and shoved upwards at that angle, I *guess* the measurement from cantle to nailhead could measure out at a 12....

                    Looking at their other items, they don't seem like they regularly sell any equestrian items, so them saying 'nothing's broken' on it doesn't really hold much water. And looking at their negative feedback, seems a lot of their sold items are broken upon (or prior to, most likely) arrival.
                    It didn't no-sale at $0.99....it was up to $250 just a few hours ago. This is the second time that the seller has randomly cancelled the auction....I was watching the saddle once before, just a week or so ago, and the same thing happened. Just a few days before the auction was to close, it ended.

                    Honestly, a tree replacement would likely not cost as much as a new Amerigo, so it could be a good bargain for someone who has that extra cash for repairs. I mean, it's a $5,000 saddle, in almost new condition. Tree replacements, from my research, run around $1000, give or take a bit. That's a decent deal.

                    Now, though, with this auction being ended early twice, I'm very suspicious of the seller.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
                      It didn't no-sale at $0.99....it was up to $250 just a few hours ago. This is the second time that the seller has randomly cancelled the auction....I was watching the saddle once before, just a week or so ago, and the same thing happened. Just a few days before the auction was to close, it ended.

                      Honestly, a tree replacement would likely not cost as much as a new Amerigo, so it could be a good bargain for someone who has that extra cash for repairs. I mean, it's a $5,000 saddle, in almost new condition. Tree replacements, from my research, run around $1000, give or take a bit. That's a decent deal.

                      Now, though, with this auction being ended early twice, I'm very suspicious of the seller.
                      Gotcha, didn't realize the seller randomly cancelled the auction - though that's a red flag to me. Sounds shady!
                      The Little Red Mare: French Curve

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ohrebecca View Post
                        Gotcha, didn't realize the seller randomly cancelled the auction - though that's a red flag to me. Sounds shady!
                        Yeah, the first time they did it I thought that maybe they had forgotten to add a reserve...sellers do sometimes, or they try the auction without a reserve (cheaper to list with Ebay that way) and then panic when their item isn't getting high enough bids.

                        To cancel it a second time though? Very suspicious.

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                        • #13
                          What kind of Amerigo are you looking for? My wife may have her 17 in, medium tree, Amerigo jump saddle for sale soon...

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                            #14
                            I noticed that it had ended when I checked on my lunch. I thought that was really weird also. I knew that when I left this morning it was at 2 something. I'm guessing it has to be stolen because you would think that if they were just equine ignorant they would take people's advice to make their listing better and try to get more bidders which=more money. We will have to see if it pops up again. I'm saving it in my ended items for now to see if it relists.

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                            • #15
                              The pics were taken in what looks to be a very industrial warehouse. Have you reported it?
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                              • #16
                                Super sketchy.
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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  I didn't report it to ebay but I did send the link to the listing as well as my correspondence with them to the email address on the Amerigo website. I had thought about reporting it to ebay but it wasn't a blatantly obvious scam like some of the other ones I see. So I didn't want to report them if they were really just that unwilling to work with interested people. If I see it again I might. They have one other saddle but its just a wintec.

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                                  • #18
                                    Also be prepared for the possibility that the seat leather may need to be replaced.

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                                      #19
                                      And it's back!
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amerigo-Pine...ht_7814wt_1172

                                      This time they actually tried to measure it properly!

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                                      • #20
                                        I agree that the saddle looks strange, but I don't know why everyone is so quick to jump on every Ebay seller as a scam artist. The first thing that you should do, no matter what you are buying, is to look at the seller's history and rating. This seller has sold a ton of stuff and has almost a 100% satisfaction rating. I would think that they probably re-listed because the measurements were off and a lot of people asked about it.

                                        Maybe the saddle is filled with cocaine and that is why it looks that way
                                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1096959.html

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