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Why no horse shows in the winter at the KHP?

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  • Why no horse shows in the winter at the KHP?

    Anyone know why there are no winter shows a the KHP with the new indoor?

    I keep checking their calendar hoping to see something come up.
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    $$$. That indoor is EXPENSIVE to rent!
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    • #3
      Two theories

      1. My guess is that most of the peeps that show there normally in the summer are down in Florida for the winter, so there wouldn't be enough entrants.

      2. Even if someone wanted to manage a show there, my guess is that the Florida circuits would buy them off to prevent loss of people going to FL.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kinsella View Post
        $$$. That indoor is EXPENSIVE to rent!
        This. Additionally, the entries were never in large numbers. The couple small A's and B shows they had last winter I thought were super (and affordable!!), and I loved the indoor, but from what I heard from my trainer, it was just too expensive to host a show there. Practically no profit was made.

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        • #5
          If you're wondering, the Alltech Arena rents for $3500/day. As Kinsella said, it's EXPENSIVE to rent!

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          • #6
            Is the original "little" indoor ring still there?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lord Helpus View Post
              Is the original "little" indoor ring still there?
              Yes, it's still there; it's known as the "Covered" Arena. IOW, you stay dry but you stay cold. It has stuff like indoor polo and mounted games in the winter.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by khp vol View Post
                Yes, it's still there; it's known as the "Covered" Arena. IOW, you stay dry but you stay cold.
                Don't the sides come down on the covered arena? At least that would cut down on the wind chill factor.

                And does the new indoor have heat/AC?

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                • #9
                  Its cold there in the winter!!! Even if you get to show in the indoor or covered, the shows would have a hard time being large enough to make money if they didn't use the outside rings, and of course then you are still freeeeeezing in the barns!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kikki View Post
                    Its cold there in the winter!!! Even if you get to show in the indoor or covered, the shows would have a hard time being large enough to make money if they didn't use the outside rings, and of course then you are still freeeeeezing in the barns!
                    Mmmm...nope, the barns over by the new indoor are heated. No freezing going on there. The indoor is warm too. But I agree that it probably would be hard to make money with it.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, those barns are but there isn't much stabling over there. Definitely if you were just going to limit the show size to those barns and the indoor it would be very cost prohibitive!
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                      • #12
                        Plus the new indoor is TINY. Not worth it if you want to hold a large indoor show IMHO.
                        Carli
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                        • #13
                          Tiny? I don't see that new indoor as tiny!

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                          • #14
                            I wish they had them in the winter. I would definitely go. And I love the new indoor. It is a little on the small side but by no means tiny. They hold GPs in there, and I showed 1.30m in there last year and while the jumps come up faster than in the Walnut ring of course, it's still very doable. I would think the KHP should be willing to work with people who want to host shows there, as an arena rented for a lower price is still better than an arena not rented at all. JMHO. Obviously they would then have to heat it, and have staff for cleaning, dragging, etc etc, but I would LOVE to see us start to have some winter shows in KY.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Carli View Post
                              Plus the new indoor is TINY. Not worth it if you want to hold a large indoor show IMHO.
                              LOL It's 300 ft long. REAL TINY

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                              • #16
                                Well, so they want 3500 a day. Is that a realistic price for the winter months, if the place is booked solid, then I guess it is, but if its not, then they aren't being realistic.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by MHM View Post
                                  Don't the sides come down on the covered arena? At least that would cut down on the wind chill factor.

                                  And does the new indoor have heat/AC?
                                  You're right; the sides are basically a series of rollup doors like a warehouse. The problem is that the entrances on either side of the stage are wide open to the weather and there's no way to close them off. The only thing that is heated is the Club Lounge on the 2nd floor at the opposite end of the arena from the stage.

                                  Yes, the new arena is heated, as are the new barns next to it (Barns 22-24),
                                  Last edited by khp vol; Nov. 10, 2011, 09:24 AM. Reason: Add info

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                                  • #18
                                    As an alternative, check out the Lakeside Arena shows in Frankfort.
                                    http://www.lakesidearena.com/

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by buschkn View Post
                                      I would think the KHP should be willing to work with people who want to host shows there, as an arena rented for a lower price is still better than an arena not rented at all. JMHO. Obviously they would then have to heat it, and have staff for cleaning, dragging, etc etc, but I would LOVE to see us start to have some winter shows in KY.
                                      One would think this... I have no idea what goes on with the rent-a-ring at KHP, but I remember asking a trainer about the potential of that idea and was laughed at. But I'm with you, surely some money is better than no money? Or maybe it is cheaper to completely turn off the heat and keep that ring closed--that I'm not sure.

                                      Apart from St. Louis and Lakeside (which can be a bit frenetic), are there any other indoor shows that go on in Zone 5?
                                      Last edited by Pony+ an inch; Nov. 10, 2011, 09:30 AM. Reason: Boy I can't write clearly...

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Pony+ an inch View Post
                                        One would think this... I have no idea what goes on with the rent-a-ring at KHP, but I remember asking a trainer about the potential of that idea and was laughed at. But I'm with you, surely some money is better than no money? Or maybe it is cheaper to completely turn off the heat and keep that ring closed--that I'm not sure.

                                        Apart from St. Louis and Lakeside (which can be a bit frenetic), are there any other indoor shows that go on in Zone 5?
                                        Frankie Stark runs some shows in Wilmington, OH. I have never been to them but you can check the Country Heir shows website for more info. It looks like there isn't anything until Feb and March, so for Dec and Jan looks like Lakeside and St Louis are our only options. Bummer. With the whole thing being heated, I would think a winter series at KHP could be a possibility, but maybe it's too close to St Louis, and everyone in Lexington heads to FL? IDK, just wishing it were different I guess...
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