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  • jumping height question

    I really want to do jumpers with my new gelding which is what he's used to. Currently I only jump 2ft courses and I've heard that you can jump all the way up to 2'6 without it being all that different and without having to change too much about how you jump the jump but i feel like that is a huge difference. I am certinainly not going to go higher than I feel comfortable but all the jumper shows around here you have to be able to jump 2'3 to 2'6 in order to be able to do jumpers. So I am wondering, does it feel THAT different to jump 2'3 and 2'6?

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    It does not. It is more of a mental thing. It is pretty much one hole up to get to 2'3 and then one more hole to get to 2'6. You ride it the exact same way. It probably won't even feel that much different. I went to a schooling show and was planning to just do the 2 foot but the equitation divisions needed some more riders so I decided to do 2'3 and 2'6 and it was nothing. School it at home, breathe, and you should be fine!

    (and i am a big CHICKEN, so if I can do it without losing my marbles so can you!)
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    • #3
      I agree, 2'3"/2'6" isn't any different than 2'. I even think 2'9" is the same. 3' is a different ballgame, however. I think as long as you school at home until you're comfortable with the height you'll be fine! Also, at local shows, the jumps are often set lower than actually stated in the prize list (at least in my experience). Just relax and have fun. Good luck!
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      • #4
        The part that concerns me is that you only jump 2ft currently. Why? Are you intimidated? Is your horse? Is he green/older/spooky/etc? Because if you aren't/can't jumping higher at home why would you then jump it at a show?

        No, 2ft does not really feel different than 2'3''or even 2'6''. But being in a strange environment tends to make jumps feel bigger, so 2'6'' could easily seem like an insurmountable 3ft.

        A good rule of thumb is to show slightly lower than you school. So I wouldn't show in the 2'3'' until you are comfortable jumping 2'6'' at home.

        ETA: I also just noticed the jumper part. Are you planning on going in there and running around the jumper course? Or laying down neat, safe, and technically correct courses? That can make a difference too. Cantering up to a 2'6'' vertical on a straight line with a collected horse is different than whipping your mount around a turn with one rein and running him at a 2'6'' oxer.

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        • #5
          It depends on your horse, somewhat, too. Occasionally, I will hop over some stuff at 2' and my horse is a deadhead. Think keep-him-going-between-fences dead. 2'6", and he will actually jump but isn't super motivated or forward unless we're working on turns. At 3' he starts to wake up a little. 3'3" and he turns into his jumper self. Of course, at a show all bets are off and he's full-out jumper when we school a very small x.

          Personally, for me there seems to be a much bigger 6" from 2' to 2'6" than there is from 2'6" to 3'. I'd be sure I had at least done a little at home at the higher height.

          ETA - I agree totally with Rel6 about schooling higher than you show. The fences at shows really do look larger! Also, it makes a huge difference on what you intend to do in the jumper ring. If you want to go have a sane course (hopefully your intent) that's a far better plan than to run & gun.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rel6 View Post

            A good rule of thumb is to show slightly lower than you school. So I wouldn't show in the 2'3'' until you are comfortable jumping 2'6'' at home.
            Originally posted by Hunter Mom View Post
            Personally, for me there seems to be a much bigger 6" from 2' to 2'6" than there is from 2'6" to 3'. I'd be sure I had at least done a little at home at the higher height.
            Exactly what the above said. You should definitely be schooling higher than you are showing at home. I school probably 2'9-2'11 at home but only show 2'6 right now if that. Jumps do tend to look bigger at shows even though for local stuff they do tend to keep it smaller. I know that a girl at my barn was showing the 3 foot jumpers locally and the jumps couldn't have been over 2'9. Make sure you are confident over the height you would be showing at home because at the shows you might be more nervous.
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            • #7
              Definitely agree with above posters, you are going to be WAY more nervous jumping high at shows then at home, and often jumps tend to look bigger at shows then at home (because of fillers, decorations, nerves, etc.). I school over 4' at home but have never shown over 3'. Definitely make sure you are comfortable with schooling 2'6 or 2'9 before you decide to show at that height. Being unprepared for a show can definitely hurt in the long run so make sure you're completely comfortable at home!

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              • #8
                so interesting

                This is all so interesting; I grew up, through my junior years riding horses and ponies who, were easier to ride over bigger jumps, i.e. 3'6" rather than 2'6"
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                • #9
                  It really doesn't feel different (to me, only like 3'3 and up feels much different, and even that doesn't feel much different on my current guy...), but my question is, why are you wanting to show higher than you school at home? That's really never a good idea... I normally school at least 3-6" higher at home than I show. You don't want the pressure and distractions of a show environment making a height bump seem even bigger. Are you working with a trainer?
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                  • #10
                    as others have mentioned, it really depends on why you have experience limited to 2 feet?? "I've heard that you can jump all the way up to 2'6 without it being all that different and without having to change too much about how you jump the jump but i feel like that is a huge difference"

                    TRUST ME. as someone who has shown alot at 2'6", I can pretty much guarantee, if YOU feel that is a huge difference, then it will be.

                    at 2', most horses are just cantering over the jump. at 2'6", they will be jumping, and you need a decent enough release with your hands and position in the air so that you can stay with your horse over the fences, particularly the oxers are going to feel different at 2'6" than when the fences are smaller.

                    why not do some Eq classes at 2'3" to get you both into the ring ? maybe have your trainer do some checking .... at smaller shows, its common for the classes that say 2'6" on the prize list to actually be set at 2'3". If you cant lay down a solid Eq trip at this level, you are not ready for jumpers. showing is great fun and all, but your safety and the physical and mental well-being of your horse should come first....

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                    • #11
                      I am going to say that MOST courses at the 2'6 level have higher expectations than a 2' class, at least for the Eq or Hunters. Things like simple changes, or trotting anywhere on course are penalized. The distances are more precise, and a miss will take you out of the ribbons. The bar is literally and figuratively set higher. Even in the jumper ring you will see trickier combinations.

                      I would want to go out and ROCK the low stuff, get my nerves out, and know that I was schooling higher at home.

                      I personally was schooling 2'6 and up but went and showed in beginner hunter to restart my show career. I had not been in the show ring in 15 years, and had insane issues with nerves. After a got my toes wet again I went over and did itty bitty jumpers. Now I am doing low adult hunters, and I am happy for now.

                      Good luck with whatever you choose, but try to set yourself and your horse up for success, not frustration. Showing should be fun.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rel6 View Post
                        The part that concerns me is that you only jump 2ft currently. Why? Are you intimidated? Is your horse? Is he green/older/spooky/etc? Because if you aren't/can't jumping higher at home why would you then jump it at a show?

                        No, 2ft does not really feel different than 2'3''or even 2'6''. But being in a strange environment tends to make jumps feel bigger, so 2'6'' could easily seem like an insurmountable 3ft.

                        A good rule of thumb is to show slightly lower than you school. So I wouldn't show in the 2'3'' until you are comfortable jumping 2'6'' at home.

                        ETA: I also just noticed the jumper part. Are you planning on going in there and running around the jumper course? Or laying down neat, safe, and technically correct courses? That can make a difference too. Cantering up to a 2'6'' vertical on a straight line with a collected horse is different than whipping your mount around a turn with one rein and running him at a 2'6'' oxer.
                        Thanks for all the responses! It is very encouraging/helpful. I currently only jump 2ft because that's all I do in my lessons. I've only been jumping a little under a year so that's as far as my trainer has let me go so it is not a fear thing by any means.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GingerJumper View Post
                          It really doesn't feel different (to me, only like 3'3 and up feels much different, and even that doesn't feel much different on my current guy...), but my question is, why are you wanting to show higher than you school at home? That's really never a good idea... I normally school at least 3-6" higher at home than I show. You don't want the pressure and distractions of a show environment making a height bump seem even bigger. Are you working with a trainer?
                          I want to do higher than I school because that's the lowest height they let jumpers do! If I did hunters, i can easily show at eighteen inches or something but jumpers, the lowest they go is 2'3". Lastly, I would DEFINITLY school at home before I tried this. I am not the type of person to go to a show and decide 'Hey I will jump a six foot wall cuz my horse is in a good mood!

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                          • #14
                            I think it totally depends on your horse. On mine, 2' feels totally different than 2'6". At 2' he just canters over it, at 2'6" missing is no fun!

                            He is older though, and is height limited because of it. On a horse that has 3'3" or 3'6" scope for an ammy? Maybe not so different.

                            Also, because of my horse's height limit, we jump 2'6" at home and 2'6" at the shows...but in general you should either be jumping higher than or the same as what you are showing at when you are home. Not always, if you show big and you are experienced and don't want the mileage on your horse, but under 3' I would think so.

                            Good luck! It wasn't all that long ago I was in 2'-land, and now I can get around at 2'6" without losing my marbles. Most of the time
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                            • #15
                              Why don't you show hunters at the level you ride at? You should be able to put in a good ride on a hunter round before you start doing jumpers anyway.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by jetsmom View Post
                                Why don't you show hunters at the level you ride at? You should be able to put in a good ride on a hunter round before you start doing jumpers anyway.
                                Agreed my rule of thumb is until you can win in the 2 6 hunters and eq you (not personally just in general) have no business in the jumper ring. I think the big mistake people make is going into the jumper ring before they are ready and havr mastered the basics. In order to be good andmost Ip
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by jetsmom View Post
                                  Why don't you show hunters at the level you ride at? You should be able to put in a good ride on a hunter round before you start doing jumpers anyway.
                                  Agreed my rule of thumb is until you can win in the 2 6 hunters and eq you (not personally just in general) have no business in the jumper ring. I think the big mistake people make is going into the jumper ring before they are ready and have mastered the basics. In order to be good and most importantly safe certain things need to be figured out in the hunter ring. Its not all about running and jumping big fences.
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                                  • #18
                                    If you are new to showing I definitely recommend getting out and going to the 18" cross rail classes first. If your horse is at all 'looky' you might have enough issues with the plainer hunter jumps, jumpers are so much more difficult if you have a horse who won't jump a new type of fill, etc! I know from experience that when you get to the show, being in the ring by yourself and having a crowd watching you is definitely more intimidating than you think!

                                    Go out for the experience even if the height seems 'boring', you will find it much more enjoyable your first time! Plus, you will be able to tell if you're ready to move up, etc.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by gallopinggal View Post
                                      Thanks for all the responses! It is very encouraging/helpful. I currently only jump 2ft because that's all I do in my lessons. I've only been jumping a little under a year so that's as far as my trainer has let me go so it is not a fear thing by any means.
                                      So, have you talked to your trainer about wanting to move up? Maybe she can give you feedback on if this is a realistic goal at this point, far more than a bunch of strangers on the internet. She can also help you plan for an appropriate strategy to achieve your goals.

                                      Also, many horses I know (mine being a glaring exception) can do hunters as well as jumpers at the lower levels. Unless yours turns into a fire breathing dragon he'd probably be fine doing the hunters. Eq is always an option if you're just wanting to go jump some sticks. Go where you will have fun and a solid experience.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Hunter Mom View Post
                                        So, have you talked to your trainer about wanting to move up? Maybe she can give you feedback on if this is a realistic goal at this point, far more than a bunch of strangers on the internet. She can also help you plan for an appropriate strategy to achieve your goals.

                                        Also, many horses I know (mine being a glaring exception) can do hunters as well as jumpers at the lower levels. Unless yours turns into a fire breathing dragon he'd probably be fine doing the hunters. Eq is always an option if you're just wanting to go jump some sticks. Go where you will have fun and a solid experience.


                                        Your trainer needs to be really involved in the move up process, especially at this stage in your riding. Also, for a first show, I'd do the hunters. At that level, it's reeeeeally not that "huntery", it's mainly for experience. Most of the people you'll see in the lower jumper divisions are galloping around like loons and at a first show with a relatively low level of experience, you DON'T want to even let yourself think about doing that (nor should anyone, really...). An xrail hunter class would probably be a much better experience.
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