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Specs are out for $250,000 3' HITS prix qualifying classes..

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  • Specs are out for $250,000 3' HITS prix qualifying classes..

    Looks ok to me -

    Open to Juniors or Amateurs
    No cross entry of rider into any "A" rated classes
    No cross entry of rider into any classes 3'6" or higher
    No cross entry of horse OR rider into 3'3" prix classes

    So no junior hunter kids, no adult/adequan hunter riders, etc.

    Sounds good so far, am I missing the obvious? It seems they are really trying to gear it toward your true 3' rider (children's hunters, etc)

    Discuss..
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  • #2
    Well, shoot, I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer for the chance for my pre-green horse to bring home a whopping prize check!

    Do you have a direct link to the specs?

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      #3
      I know - I am really hoping for a $50,000 adult pleasure final - I will be there, lol!

      The specs are just listed in the prize list for Ocala, so www.hitsshows.com and then click on the link for Ocala and download the prize list.
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      • #4
        Thanks- I'll have to take a look.

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        • #5
          Ok, I can't open the prize list on my phone, and I'm not near a computer.

          Do the cross entry restrictions apply for the whole year? Or just for each show? In other words, is there anything to prevent a kid from showing in the junior hunters at 3'6" at some shows, then dropping down to the 3' to qualify and show in the big money class in September? Ditto for amateurs stepping down to adults for however many shows to qualify?

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          • #6
            No ponies either. I wonder why? Are they worried a large pony hunter could come in and sweep it? But thats an AA rated division anyway...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rel6 View Post
              No ponies either. I wonder why? Are they worried a large pony hunter could come in and sweep it? But thats an AA rated division anyway...
              Good point, I'd love to see a quality Large in this! At least then you'd (potentially) be awarding something competing at the top of its game.

              Oh yeah. That's not the point.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rel6 View Post
                No ponies either. I wonder why? Are they worried a large pony hunter could come in and sweep it? But thats an AA rated division anyway...
                Could be concerns about the striding, although I can't imagine that being a problem for a division Large.
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                • #9
                  Below is from the prizelist:

                  Two-round Classic. Fences 3’. Open to Junior and Amateur riders on Horses (no ponies). Horse must have entered, shown and completed the course in two hunter classes over fences at the same show. No cross entry of
                  rider into any "A" rated hunter section, or any class with fences 3’6” or higher. No cross entry of horse or rider in the Devoucoux Hunter Prix. Qualifying class for the $250,000 HITS 3' Hunter Prix Final.

                  It says to go to hitsshows.com for more information but the prizelist seems to be the only one with this much detail.

                  I dont know...think it will be effective in keeping the class to its intended participants?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dags View Post
                    Good point, I'd love to see a quality Large in this! At least then you'd (potentially) be awarding something competing at the top of its game.

                    Oh yeah. That's not the point.

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                    • #11
                      Well, I must say we all complain endlessly about USEF not supporting the 3' adult ammy rider or offering any programs that make competing worthwhile. Good for HITS for aiming this program at that segment of its clientele and really offering them a reason to show with HITS. If USEF can't provide this value, at least someone else is trying to step up.

                      More like this is what we need, frankly, if we want 3' riders to keep the shows afloat. They are, like it or not, the bread and butter of the show's cash flow. It is smart business to do something like this and good for the industry.

                      No need to cut off our noses to spite our faces because they aren't Olympic riders. That's the point, isn't it? Give the adult ammy a reason to show up, so they continue to show up.

                      It is either this or cut costs, and shows keep insisting they can't cut costs so offering incentives is the only other viable option.

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                      • #12
                        Now that I've seen the specs, I guess all I have to say is:

                        It will be interesting to see who elects to show in the class throughout the year, and interesting to see who ends up with the ribbons and prize money in September.

                        Completely off topic tangent- there is a class in the Hits Ocala prize list called the U-Dump Jr. Jumper? And the U-Dump A/O Jumper? Really?? Very unfortunate sponsor name for a jumper class, even though it's always great to see sponsors.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by comingback View Post
                          Below is from the prizelist:

                          Two-round Classic. Fences 3’. Open to Junior and Amateur riders on Horses (no ponies). Horse must have entered, shown and completed the course in two hunter classes over fences at the same show. No cross entry of
                          rider into any "A" rated hunter section, or any class with fences 3’6” or higher. No cross entry of horse or rider in the Devoucoux Hunter Prix. Qualifying class for the $250,000 HITS 3' Hunter Prix Final.

                          It says to go to hitsshows.com for more information but the prizelist seems to be the only one with this much detail.

                          I dont know...think it will be effective in keeping the class to its intended participants?
                          First I agree with the way the restrictions are worded, not that my opinion actually matters...

                          BUT, it does not restrict a horse showing in the "professional" divisions" by a pro from entering in this class with it's children hunter rider or A/O. I like this idea, it gives a chance to a child or A/O with a nice horse to qualify for something big.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MHM View Post
                            Well, shoot, I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer for the chance for my pre-green horse to bring home a whopping prize check!

                            Do you have a direct link to the specs?
                            I'll do your cute horse in the 3' hunter prix!!!!!!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by comingback View Post
                              Horse must have entered, shown and completed the course in two hunter classes over fences at the same show. No cross entry of
                              rider into any "A" rated hunter section, or any class with fences 3’6” or higher.
                              So the horse can qualify for this class going in the High Performance early in the week with the Pro, am I correct?
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
                                So the horse can qualify for this class going in the High Performance early in the week with the Pro, am I correct?
                                Looks that way to me.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                                  Looks that way to me.
                                  And as a corrollary, where does the prix fall in the schedule?

                                  Is the prize list schedule set up so that the horse can qualify in the AAs/Childrens/low/schooling/specials (ie, with those classes running before the prix) as well?

                                  I am guessing the pro classes go Weds-Thurs, the ammy classes go Thurs-Fri (le sigh), and where is the Prix?
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                                  • #18
                                    "Well, I must say we all complain endlessly about USEF not supporting the 3' adult ammy rider or offering any programs that make competing worthwhile. Good for HITS for aiming this program at that segment of its clientele and really offering them a reason to show with HITS."


                                    All well and good but bear this is mine: a) this is presumably a significant moneymaker for HITS, entries, sponsors, etc., and b) HITS has six shows annually at Culpeper and, for many years now, has and continues to be the only Virginia show not to pay ANY money in the adult divisions.

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                                    • #19
                                      Then perhaps you will decide it isn't worth it to show there.

                                      What on earth is wrong with them making money? I doubt they will make an extra $250k off it, and if they do -- good for them. They need to make money. Ammies need to feel like they are getting something valuable, like FUN and a neat experience, for their $$. A win-win, if people like the concept and want to show at HITS because of it. Better than just another 3' division with $500 added, maybe.

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                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        Here's what I like - this just opened the market a little for the 3' jock. That benefits me, because I happen to have one who lives right behind Culpeper showgrounds. But it will also benefit a lot of other 3' riders who would love the chance to take around something really nice as well. It will be harder to find talented riders who aren't piloting something around the A rated divisions already for someone, and it may help kids like mine who have a lot of potential but aren't riding in the 3'6" or division larges based on lack of funds from the parental units not lack of ability.

                                        Meupatdoes, would that horse going in the high performance early in the week really aim for this class, or would they do the 3'3" prix that is open to pro riders? Makes more sense for a horse performing at that level to stick with the pro ride and do the other. Although I guess something super fancy could sweep this where it would have more competition in the 3'3" but then the value of the prize is cut in half.
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