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Spin-off: Any actual information on 2012 EAP?

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  • Spin-off: Any actual information on 2012 EAP?

    Branching off from the Karen Healy thread, is there any actual information on the 2012 EAP that is not rumor or speculation?

    I did it last year and am definitely applying again this year and I'm curious of Melanie Smith Taylor is definitely not doing it again this year. Not that it will affect whether or not I apply, I'm just wondering.

  • #2
    I thought USHJA took away EAP for 2012?


    • #3
      I thought they did, as well...
      "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief


      • #4
        I was told neither Melanie or Mindy are involved in the EAP now. They have removed the horsemanship.


        • #5
          I know someone who was going to host EAP 2012 that opted to withdraw their application when they learned that Melanie Taylor and Mindy Bower and all horsemanship was taken away for 2012. All of that and the ladies are still very much entrenched in the 2011 season and upcoming Nationals (just look at USHJA National schedule online at USHJA.org). She was told the program would be 4 host days because levels 1 and 2 would be put together. Which really meant 6 host days when you consider coming and going. They are trying to get multiple clinicians instead of using one consistent one which means each location will be different training then the rest. The clinicians suggested all have large businesses (I would worry about clinicians grabbing good clients and talent for themselves or bias of friends of friends being chosen for nationals) and they are being asked to train for 4 days, all day, for near free. Clinicians will have to commit 6 days for travel too. Stable management has been added in place of horsemanship so now the kiddies can learn wrapping and tack up. Stable management seems unnecessary with that level of rider. Supposedly the horsemanship online test will be included in the application process along with recommendation letters but no hands on training of horsemanship. They told my friend they were running the sessions from June through August 2012 and that was simply too hot of a time to commit her farm for 6 days plus the preparing. (keep in mind that host sites pay the insurance and other fees not covered by USHJA and clinicians pay fees they don't get reimbursed) Last my friend heard is that the USHJA was having trouble securing these new clinicians given the 2012 Olympics and other committments.

          So it looks like with application fees, horsemanship test fees, session fees, stalls and shavings the cost will be over $1,000 per kid and then you add in shipping, hotels and the rest. Probably a $3,000 committment. Not a terrible price for 4 days of good training but I question who they will ultimately get to replace someone like Taylor and will the cost be worth it for a so-so trainer as opposed to an Olympian.

          I don't care what anyone says, without Taylor and her vision of this program, it will fail miserably. Just my humble opinion. I guess I can be proven wrong.

          I somehow think the USHJA will ultimately say no EAP for 2012 when they realize how much work is involved in securing clinicians.
          Anthony 'Tony' Soprano Sr.: If you can quote the rules, then you can obey them


          • #6
            I know somebody who is hosting that was just contacted by USHJA last week to confirm-it is going. 4 days. Summer.

            New emphasis on overall knowledge of all facets of managing a competition horse but they are STILL going to be spending alot of time Jumping. Specifically to address the "know nothing but how to ride" problem as well as increase their employability in a BNT barn.

            MST is out. Rumor has it she is up for GMs position with the International team-but she is not a young woman and expecting her to spend all that time on the road and the countless hours that are above and beyond the scope of the program is unrealistic. She may have reasons she need not share as well.

            Also unrealistic to expect anybody else to shoulder that whole burden, or be able to afford to do it even if they had the time. There may be several sharing that responsibility.

            Also, I read somewhere some are upset because there may be no Olympian? I dunno that the average kid that does EAP needs an Olympian. They do need top level coaching that may not be financially feasible for them. The idea was to help more on the grass roots level and help them move up-the names I have heard are up for it would be perfect for that, even if they are not Olympians.
            When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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            • #7
              Well, I was just asked to help with the eastern regional next July, so apparently it us going forward. And it is certainly horsemanship I will be teaching.