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Hunter or Jumper route for this 4 yr old?

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  • Hunter or Jumper route for this 4 yr old?

    Below is a link to a short video of one of my homebred horses that was started in Eventing this summer. The season is pretty much over for our area. With all the bad weather, we have had a lot of cancellations (three !) so the mare has not been out very much. We were thinking doing some local indoor shows over the next few months. I am looking for some input as to which discipline this mare looks better suited for - Hunters or Jumpers?

    http://youtu.be/kSauz3kL6DQ

    Thank you!

    Laurie
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  • #2
    She is wicked cute! I see her more in the jumper, or possibly even eq ring, more than the hunter ring. She has an adorable jump on her, but she seems to naturally carry herself higher than a hunter should. She looks like a really fun ride

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    • #3
      She looks to be more of a jumper type to me (and quite a nice one, BTW.) Which division I'd recommend, though, depends on what your objective for those shows might be.

      The jumper offerings at a lot of local shows tend to reward the hell bent for leather approach where the winner depends mostly on luck and the horse's innate survival instinct rather than the rider's skill at executing an efficient track to get a good result. Not my first choice of venues for a young horse, regardless of which division they'll ultimately show in.

      If you are looking to give your nice young horse some good mileage over the winter, I'd tend to enter the hunter division. The courses will be inviting and will encourage softness, rideability and good jumping technique.

      At four I'd be thinking about how to give her some outings where she can jump around nicely without being asked to run for time, particularly in smaller indoor settings. Plenty of time for playing against the clock later, once she's older and has more experience, IMO.
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      • #4
        Adorable. She certainly looks quite full of herself, and very enthusiastic. If you can get her to settle a bit and relax I'd certainly try some hunter classes. Hard to tell from one video of one day of a four year old, but she seems like she'd be quite successful in the jumper ring.

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        • #5
          She's terrible and is unsuited for either ring, so you better send her to me

          I echo that she seems more the jumper or eq type, but if you are just going for milage and to get her seen, definitely do the hunter divisions
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          • #6
            Jumper

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            • #7
              None of the above? I agree with whoever mentioned equitation. I could see her being a really nice, relaxed bigeq mount with some more years of experience and maturity. Super cute mare!

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              • #8
                I'd actually try the eq if you're eligible for any of the divisions. I'm using the eq in the next two years to put miles on my TB gelding until he's really jumper-ready (at the bigger heights, not the heights where you're up against a kid hanging for dear life onto a psychopath pony/hony/thing).
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                • #9
                  she screamed equitation horse to me.

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                  • #10
                    At 4, why do you need to pick a route? I've always been a big fan of using hunter classes to get all babies used to the show, and learning to jump quietly out of a rhythm. Do a few jumper classes too. Let her experience both. Over time, her direction should become obvious.

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                    • #11
                      He he, cute! Jumper!

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                      • #12
                        She's very cute and VERY nice. I definitely see her being super nice jumper. If you're just looking for miles and not ribbons, I wouldn't worry about the hell bent for leather attitude of the local jumper circuits. Just take your wonderful mare out there, ride her around confidently, and don't worry about ribbons

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                        • #13
                          im not sure if im evaluating properly,but i see a horse that could go either way nicely..meaning scope and confo of a jumper and good pace and jumping form for a hunter...but i naturally want to say hunter,as im a hunter rider.

                          i would personally try both to see what she suits or enjoys most
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                          • #14
                            Jumper. I have seen a lot of the big jumper barns put their young jumpers in the jumper rings right away, and ride them as eq courses. That way they see the sights without getting excited. She is darling, and looks very game.
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                            • #15
                              SO cute!! She would make a great jumper.
                              "There are only two emotions that belong in the saddle; one is a sense of humor and the other is patience."

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                              • #16
                                Jumper. Nice mare!
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Justice View Post
                                  Jumper. I have seen a lot of the big jumper barns put their young jumpers in the jumper rings right away, and ride them as eq courses. That way they see the sights without getting excited. She is darling, and looks very game.
                                  This. Just because everyone else is tearing around the course doesn't mean you have to.

                                  But if you're unsure, I would play around in both rings.

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                                  • #18
                                    After decades of starting mine in the hunter ring (back before they had loads of little jumper classes at the big shows), I've moved to doing everything in the jumper ring.

                                    I like that they get to see all sorts of different fences and face the questions they'll get when they're further along anyways (since all of mine are aimed at the big jumper ring). The pace of the rest of the class is totally irrelevant to me. I do big loopy turns and work on whatever my babies need to work on....and that's usually utilizing a slow, controlled pace. I also like that there's a jump-off after a good round in many of the classes. I like the opportunity with a young green one to walk for a minute, do a handful of the fences in a different order, and then walk out. And you get to see a lot more combinations as well, which I like with the babies.

                                    But to the OP - I think your horse is lovely, and in the name of schooling as a baby I think you could go either direction. There's something to be said for the very solid looking brushy/flowery hunter fences as well. So go with whatever you (or your helper/trainer/support) are more comfortable with.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by PNWjumper View Post
                                      After decades of starting mine in the hunter ring (back before they had loads of little jumper classes at the big shows), I've moved to doing everything in the jumper ring.

                                      I like that they get to see all sorts of different fences and face the questions they'll get when they're further along anyways (since all of mine are aimed at the big jumper ring). The pace of the rest of the class is totally irrelevant to me. I do big loopy turns and work on whatever my babies need to work on....and that's usually utilizing a slow, controlled pace. I also like that there's a jump-off after a good round in many of the classes. I like the opportunity with a young green one to walk for a minute, do a handful of the fences in a different order, and then walk out. And you get to see a lot more combinations as well, which I like with the babies.

                                      But to the OP - I think your horse is lovely, and in the name of schooling as a baby I think you could go either direction. There's something to be said for the very solid looking brushy/flowery hunter fences as well. So go with whatever you (or your helper/trainer/support) are more comfortable with.
                                      Ditto this exactly. I like having a jump off as well so that they don't learn that jump off means speed and get excited -- it's just another round for the first several years of my horses' careers. I like to keep them as relaxed as possible, maybe adding in some nice smooth tighter turns as they develop in experience and confidence. The speed is the very last thing I add. Nice way to develop a jumper, it's great to have all the lower level options.

                                      Who cares about the ribbons -- It's not like mine picked up many ribbons in those baby hunter classes anyway!

                                      There's no disadvantage to going in the hunters if you are taking something else to a show that just offers hunter classes and have an extra space on the trailer. Or you think horse will benefit from straight, simple lines only (if green enough, that can be a consideration!)

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                                      • #20
                                        Very game little mare! She's definitely pointed for the jumper ring, although going in the hunter ring to see the jumps and learn to jump slow and correct would be a good training experience for her. Consider adding a stride in the line in first course to encourage slowness.

                                        Because she's so young, when you move to the jumper ring, I would not add speed for the jump off - no reason, particularly for what she's being trained up to do for eventing. Don't worry about the ribbon for a while, just be slow in the jump off, careful, and show her the correct track to each jump so she learns how to jump the different jumps and combinations.

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