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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • SuzieQNutter
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    LOL Sugar. That would be enabling to agree.

    You are okay as the 2 in the paddock are not the ones fretting, which is harder to deal with.

    The horse you are training HAS to have their attention on you. You are the leader. They may call, but that is it. They are not allowed to move their feet or look where they want. You are in charge. If that means putting a curbed bit on to have control, so be it. BE strong. Praise what you want. I promise you that each day it will get a bit easier.

    As with everything timing is key. Have the correct timing things will get better, incorrect timing and you will teach them the opposite of what you want. You need to show total confidence, so your horse looks to you for confidence and not their friends. Even if you don't feel it, fake it until you make it.

    So that means the magic number at home is 3 horses not 4.

    PF that is what I love about this forum. I learn things daily. I have never actually used a wall myself, as my horses have never needed it. I have been to numerous lectures, read a lot of threads on this forum and have listened to my mum all my life. There are a lot of things in my head.

    So a conversation with hubby yesterday.

    ME: How were the horses last night for you?

    They were good. They were wet.

    No problems changing rugs?

    No.

    What good boys.

    Sim lifts his leg which is a bit scary but I think it is because I am touching his leg and he thinks I want him to lift it.

    Why are you touching his leg?

    I have to touch his leg to put a leg strap on.

    You don't have to touch his leg to put a leg strap on. (He has been putting rugs on for 17 years)

    Yes you do.

    No you don't.

    Yes you do.

    No you don't. Come I will show you.

    I unbuckled Stars leg straps.

    You put one around and back and clip it on. Clip should face the horse so not able to clip on to a fence which I have seen twice in my life time. Do not let it go. Keep a hold of it with that hand. With the other hand unclip the other leg strap, pass around the leg to the other hand. Put through leg strap and back to clip.

    I feel like starting a thread to see how many people do it that way!

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  • SugarCubes
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    Reeses - Welcome to the group!!

    Lucky - Totally get the ear plugs thing, I think I'm spookier than my horses when it's storming and always stick ear plugs in if we're going to be in the indoor!

    Faye - New horse sounds fun, that's totally my type of ride! I wonder what his background was if he's that old and still that green?! Did he race for a long time?


    First week having the horses home was fairly uneventful! My old barn does private turnout, so I didn't know how all three would get along being turned out together, but they all seem to be in love! My pasture drains amazingly well, so despite the record rains we've had lately, I've been fortunate enough to be able to get them out at least 12 hours a day and it's awesome to see how content and happy they are. One of the favorite parts of my day is watching them all graze!

    I've only ridden twice this week, and I need a better plan for my rides....maybe you guys can give me some ideas or advice?! So, the barn is by the house, and the pasture and small ring are down a big hill, which is kind of a hike from the barn and totally out of sight. So, the issue I'm having is if I leave two in the barn and ride one, the one I'm riding can't focus and screams for their friends. But, if I keep the other two in the pasture so the one being ridden can see their friends, then that horse has to be in the barn by itself when I tack up and untack, which also results in dancing around and screaming for their friends.

    The obvious solution is a fourth horse, right? TOTALLY KIDDING!!!!!! But seriously, what would you all suggest?! I wish the ring was closer to the barn so they could see each other!

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  • ParadoxFarm
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    Suzie, thanks for the tip on working on Chico's feet in his stall. We wedged his rear end into the corner of his stall and trimmed both front hooves. Worked like a charm! He didn't budge. Proves he wants to be good, he just can't always do it these days.

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  • Faye
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    Mustang: 13.

    Compare to the 4 year olds, you know what i mean!?
    Last edited by Faye; Aug. 7, 2020, 08:22 PM.

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  • luckymaverick
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    Mustang- yeah I kept reminding myself at least we’re not at The Barnyard anymore with big pigs and chickens. Pony and I are somewhat pig-broke 😀

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  • MustangTwist
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    Welcome Reeses!

    Lucky - We have a neighbor who enjoys doing loud yard work, too. It's annoying. We also have to call the fire department on them from time to time! Those days are challenging, but it does give us a chance to practice bravery, like you said, which can be a good thing (so long as we're staying safe).

    Faye - Sounds like you had a fun ride! How old is "much older?"

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  • Faye
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    Reese: Welcome!!! I don't own either, i am on a twice a week lesson schedule, and works out great! I'm almost certain i have some sort of cervical spine issue from my horrid posture.

    Lucky: The new guy is so much fun!! We don't have a ton of lesson horses at this small barn, but we all sort of have 1 or 2 that we consistently ride since those horses matches the riders level. I hope that he will become one of my regulars

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  • luckymaverick
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    Reese- welcome, welcome! I don't own either, and lesson once/week if I can swing it with my work schedule. I have cervical spinal stenosis, so I totally get the "pain in the neck" part. That's how I judge my fitness- how much collected trot or working trot sitting can I do before I get twinge-y

    Faye- Smokey and the new guy both sound so fun. I'm so glad you're at such a positive barn with loads of adventures and horses to ride.

    I had a mid-week ride on Pony and it was uneventful. Neighbor was doing loud farm work and I was not amused. Pony was non-plussed. I had put on her bonnet without earbuds. Fab asked if I wanted them, since I kept commenting about leaving them off. I realized it would be for me not Pony, which is just silly, so we carried on, working walk and all, and I tried to practice even a smidge of bravery. Should have known when Pony set the mood for the ride by sticking her tongue out during the obligatory IG photo session

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  • SuzieQNutter
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    Welcome welcome welcome Reeces.

    Yes western dressage would be safer saddle wise as you can not be shaken down into a dressagesaddle with sitting trotcwith no stirrups.

    If you have trail ride businesses over there like here, you hire a horse who is good for beginners and you go on trail rides where the horses only walk. The horses stay in a line and you don't even have to steer.

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  • ParadoxFarm
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    Welcome, Reeses. Of course your can join us. We're really not completely devoted to any one discipline here. Most of us here can feel your pain. Starting over is never easy. Just do as much as you can while staying safe and comfortable. I think riding in a western saddle probably is more secure. Most important, though, is the type of horse you are riding. Hopefully you have some very safe schoolies to ride. Yes, I think dressage, too, would be more of a secure feeling as far as saddles go. Just enjoy it. You can make more decisions as you get comfortable.

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  • Reeses
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    Hey, can I join this group? Rode Very briefly as a preteen, came back in my late 20s for a few years. Now back at it again at age 46. I do not have a horse, nor have I ever, so just taking lessons for now. The older I get the more difficult this becomes, just dealing with on my anxieties. And then on top of that the physical part. Last year I was diagnosed with degeneration of my cervical cartilage so I pretty much walk around with constant neck pain. Some days it’s worse than others. But, I’m always worried that whiplash from a fall is going to do me in for good! guess in weighing the risks I’m still moving forward with continuing to ride.

    Also trying to figure out what discipline I want to do! Maybe H/J It’s too much for me now, so I’ve started my return to riding in a western saddle. Not sure how I feel about it yet, don’t really see myself as the cowgirl type even though my trainer would love for me to show with them. I do have this belief that things are less risky in a western saddle, not sure if that’s true or not but maybe it gives me a greater sense of security. Also thought about doing dressage.

    I don’t know, at this point I just need to get my body and mind back into riding mode. I’ve been doing mostly once a week, but thinking about doing twice a week. It’s hard with all the other responsibilities of life!

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  • Faye
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    Sugar: 100% agree!! Smokin is so level headed, I'm amazed. Also good training from my trainer really helps!

    Lucky: LOL, Elsa is still Elsa, and she has become very sassy, though i haven't ridden her much. Her barn name is just Smokin, i call her Smokey .

    ***
    Rode another new TB, much older, but i am not quite sure what his training was, my trainer said, not much. He was super sensitive, the kind where you think trot a little bigger and he's already cantering. Motor on his own, but not hot. MY LOVE so i don't have to nag which makes my position bad. I jumped him a over some baby jumps and he was super good! A little heavy on the forehand but with more work to improve his fitness, he will probably great!

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  • luckymaverick
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    Faye- I figured Smokin Hot was a horse, silly me thought it was Elsa with a name change 😛 what’s his barn name?

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  • SuzieQNutter
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    Sugar Sorry I thought it was her back. Coffin joint is aptly named as it puts so many horses there. We call it the pedal bone here. It is not often called that here.

    I guess the former owner saw it a lot as she warned me about it and other comments were that he always bucks on the lunge and has to be ridden at least 3 days a week. He needs a very experienced rider. He also probably had ulcers.

    I have heard the term before of a soft horse that needs hardening up. I can't explain it but to groom him he was soft. I have never seen that before. He also looked like a stock horse and supposedly he was being ridden at least 3 times a week.

    He has NEVER bucked on the lunge for me. He is step perfect on the lunge. I just wish he would go like that under saddle! We are getting there.

    Daily grooming and riding he did harden up and feels like a normal horse now. He doesnt look like a stock horse any more.

    I went to the house that was supposed to settle.

    He took the keys back to the real estate and virtually said he was done. He was planning on going back to do more loads but he was done.

    I was planning on taking the straight load and easy to take the dividers out. Sigh nope hubby had farm implements in front of it. Probably as a deterrant to it being stolen, but it stopped me as well.

    So that meant taking the angle float and taking the dividers out by myself and that is really a two man job. I did manage it but it was not easy. I had to leave the tack box in. It was just way too heavy.

    The house and shed were locked. I started in the BBQ area. I put on a table there stuff to keep. There was a metal cage that you can put a big water container in being used for rubbish. I really only added 2 broken plastic chairs and an iron bed head thingie that was a pretty but old and discoloured. The rest was pretty good, there was a rake and an axe. Brake fluid, transmission oil, etc. Boxes of nut, bolts, screws etc.

    Down at the bins the recycle bin was full of cans. I took them out and put them in feed bags. I got 3 of them, one was a large chaff bag. They are worth 10 cents each. I then filled the bin with cardboard and other stuff.

    Down in the paddock had been a fire. I pulled out all the stuff that did not burn like bed springs and put them in the float with the base and mattress of a bed. I put in a 44 gallon drum and filled it with the smaller stuff. I went around and picked up bits if cut off wood everywhere and plastic everywhere.

    I added some steel posts and some concrete blocks. The real estate guy came and brought the keys. We added the rubbish in that at container and we took that lot to the dump.

    Into the house and all cooking implements still there. Plus the attachments for the portable fan force oven I have at home. Toaster ovens, grills, pans, etc.

    Shoes in the wardrobe that will probably fit me not hubby, but don't need. Stuff in the bathroom I just threw out, like electrical nose hair trimmers, etc.

    Then into the shed and I brought home a float load which is only 1/3 of the shed. A push mower, an outside heater, a drill, another electrical tool about the same size.
    All kinds of tools that I have seen hubby use like round jagged metal circles,sockets, wrenches, new poles, new sheeting, sheets of wood. Brand new, in good condition and will be able to be sold if hubby doesn't want them.

    They said they want the tyres gone. Everything in that shed is in good condition and useable. What is the bet when I get back there the tyres will be wheels that can go on a vehicle, if not one of ours I can sell them. I know. I know, don't get my hopes up.

    I am having tea or lunch with a friend and his daughter. I don't know which yet. I will work around them. Unload the float and go back and fill it up and do as much as I can. It is supposed to rain on Friday I have until Monday.

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  • SugarCubes
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    Suzie - Yes!! Sounds like Stars has the same move as Lucca! I've seen her do it a few times on the lunge line and thought to myself, I hope you never do that when I'm on your back! Like Stars, she landed pretty much where she left the ground! She's not a spooky horse whatsoever, so at least I know what her go to move is when she is feeling fresh and now I know I can ride it out! As for the injections, she has issues with her coffin joint, so that's what was injected. I have a new farrier coming to do some corrective shoeing on her this week which should help too.

    Faye - I actually think that name is super cute! There are so many bad TB names - remember my old gelding, Cyber Bully?! YUCK!! Smokin Hot kind of sounds like a QH name too! She sounds like she's going to be a cool horse, you have to love that how mature those young TBs are compared to the warmbloods.

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  • Faye
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    Suzie: That's what it means here too, but for a TB, it can also means that the horse has no brakes ?? LOL like Rocket Launcher, or some other funny names!

    Lucky: stay safe!! Being in the front line is so difficult! Yes! I hope people don't think that i'm calling myself smokinhot!!

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  • luckymaverick
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    Sugar- that sounds like some seriously tight eq to sit Lucca. I would have been a lawn dart for sure.

    Faye- no clue when any of my buildings will open- some have active cases caught in house and some are taking actives from the hospital. Now your IG pics make sense- Smokin Hot is super cute.

    PF- congrats on your tests. You guys have such a fun partnership to watch

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  • SuzieQNutter
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    HAHAHA I called it PF. You won and that was also the reason that I said you do not look to show under different judges. It is much more successful to win under the same judge so you know you have improved.

    Faye over here Smokin hot means, really sexy. Pepper I used to compete as Hot Pepper.

    Sugar every time you post about Lucca it is the same as Stars. That is what I meant when I said that Stars doesn't just buck, but he jumps and then bucks. Maybe I should have said he leaps and then bucks while in the air.

    So if Lucca is like Stars conformationally as well as mentally and is doing that because of the same conformation, I have had 2 instructors who have said he can take the weight behind and will be able to take me up the levels.

    He did it with his former owner at a cross country day.

    He did it one day going up the second side of a dip. OMG the immense power. I guess that is what it is like to sit on a capriole. Like you I did not get unseated and because it was quite steep, he only ended up a couple of inches from where he took off. How far forward did Lucca land?

    I can tell you when I got to the 2nd dip I hopped off and led him home! Going through the dip we go through going the other way. I walk up and keep hold of the reins! Touchwood he hasn't done it again. Before doing it that last time when I mounted down there he was shaking. Whether from fear or overexcited, I won't do that again either!

    So on the basis of them being very similar. What did you have injected into her back? How much? Where injected? Improvements? How long does it last? How much did it cost, etc, etc etc.

    I won't be able to ride today, at this point maybe this week. Things to do instead. I have to go and clean up what the Tenant left behind in the house I sold, so that might be more than one day. They said they want all gates, steel, tyres gone.

    To me gates I can bring back here, tyres can be turned into jumps, steel if hubby doesn't want it they give you money for scrap steel.

    Friday they are predicting a lot of rain so that will probably be Friday, Saturday, Sunday with no riding.

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  • Faye
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    Sugar: Oh my!! That comes with the package of an athletic horse! But all four higher than the head is a bit scary! Glad you have velcro seats! Mare is only 4 so no show mileage whatsoever, i feel like she can be both hunter/jumper, she's very steady. I asked my trainer last week if we could practice some hunter courses, and she was like, ummmm no, i don't do hunters :P. we tend to practice a ton of tight tracks, different approaches, she got me from mortified of approaching at an angle to be fairly comfortable. What really helps of course, is the willing, brave mare. Her name is a little scary though for a TB, (Smokin Hot), she is not at all HOT, not sure why the name!

    PF: WOOHOO!!! First place!! Celebratory indeed!! And second place too! Looking forward to hear the comments!

    Lucky: Any news of when they will open to public? That would be terrifying. Also with schools about to open in many places, with kids being the vector, i can't even imagine. I haven't been riding Elsa for awhile, i've been riding another 4 year old that was started by my trainer last year, Elsa is a paint, and this mare is a bay TB with socks. So fun!

    I can't believe its Monday already~

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  • SugarCubes
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    Woohoo!!! That's awesome, PF, congrats!! Could you see the improvement between the last tests and these more recent ones? I think it's just such a great tool to have these virtual shows, I love that you get real feedback and I think it really holds riders accountable and motivated to continue to progress in their riding!

    Third horse is a boarder, she actually belongs to my trainer but had a suspensory injury this past year so she's planning to breed her next spring. Hoping to get a couple of pasture boarders and some sales horses in in the next few months, but we're still having some work done on the property to prepare for that!


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