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  • Sugar - Of course you qualify, she has an open stall and you have a checkbook. Not being sarcastic but at the root of it, boarding and training is a business transaction. You are looking to see if they will be a good fit for your horse and if you like her training style. Her students can get to the ring and even catch the judges eye, but if her methods border on the abusive for horse and rider you would be out of there. Does she "grow" her students or have a steady stream of wide eyed parents with ready money who eventually get disillusioned after buying too many pretty but disposable horses. Can she produce a nice young horse, or does she have a talent for finding well brought along good ones. You want have her help you find your next dream horse, the real question is not are you good enough, but does she have the talent to help you find a good match.

    She is looking at you trying to decide if you ride the crazy train, have a horse that will destroy her barn and is a PITA to care for, and will you pay your bills on time. She hopes you will be teachable, but the fact that you were successful with your "off breed, non fancy horse " means that you are because you had to work a bit harder. She is glad to have an adult client who already has show experience, can actually care for her horse and doesn't need constant hand holding, and doesn't bring adolescent drama. Mention that you want to shop for a fancier horse in the future and she see's the commission shining in the future. If she is smart she will be trying to 'court' you!

    YOU ARE the Client she wants. You come with knowledge and great basics, the desire and the means to improve. You don't have to be perfect, you have already proved your worth with your lovely Cash. But you do want to continue the journey and always improve. So put on your warrior woman suit, stride right in and see if SHE has what it takes to ride with you. Oh and give 'the look' to any high school princess that needs it..

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    • Thanks everyone I was a bit superstitious about talking too much about my pregnancy, very relieved to have him here healthy.

      Sugar - you got this! I was super insecure about clinicing with an Olympian (and in front of the auditors) with my rigid elbows, tipping forward, and somewhat inverted OTTB but I learned a lot and it was a great experience.

      Techni - I'm super impressed!

      We've been getting some rain, which makes not riding easier, and I've still been able to go see him daily for grooming and walking when they stay in.
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      • Sugar, just go for it! You'll be able to tell, when you visit, if their attitude is condescending or not. If not, do it. My trainer does the A-Circuit jumpers and when I took my lessons I felt a bit odd being the only one not showing (me and DH). Then DH wanted to ask him if he would come to teach us at our farm, and I was thinking, there's no way this great trainer would travel to us peons. DH asked anyway, and I'm glad, as trainer was more than happy to come out here when he's in town. So you just never know. I don't get to take many lesson being home instead of showing, but I value the lessons I do get, and my trainer never treats me or my TBs (and he LOVES Chico) as inferior horses. So you may be pleasantly surprised. Good luck, and keep us posted!

        TC, what's the little guy's name? (Or did I miss that, too? )

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        • Sugar- you've totally got this! Don't take any "snark" from anyone, you and your boy have a relationship that those big eq girls aspire to

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          • Trot, TC, PF, Lucky - Thank you all so much! I wish I could give you all a big hug right now I was watching old videos this weekend and realized how much this little QH has taught me, and how far we've come. And in my opinion, he's a pretty darn cute hunter! https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq2KgUEj...iZalb2km-CqQ0/

            I really shouldn't feel insecure, and I'd give any of you the same advice you've given me. So THANK you! Meeting trainer later today, fingers crossed!

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            • Sugar- jingles for a good meeting.

              Greys- I've loved living vicariously on your trip. Could Charlie be any cuter

              Lesson today was ok, but I wish I could have been braver. It was pretty windy, which rattled the big tree against the arena wall, plus rattled the sheet of metal, that needs nailed down, a LOT. Pony, per usual, could have cared less, minus a few pricked ear episodes. She was kind and responsive, and let's just say we got some killer walk work done as that's all my nerves would allow. Intro A at the walk- great free walk, best properly flexed circle to the right we've had in a long time, plus halting without touching the reins, for fun.

              Fab got us all a new present- the Equicube. OMG, it's quite the learning curve. Pony was non-plussed, I however will take a bit longer to acclimate to it.

              The September show is in the process of getting set in the books, and it's possible we could end up back at our favorite arena, Miller. I would be beside myself excited, that, plus one of our favorite judges may be our judge. She's very kind, even when you mess up, and always takes the time to give praise or teaching moments.

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              • Lucky - What is an Equicube? Great job on the excellent walk work, no harm in that!

                And the barn search continues.....trainer doesn't allow cribbers

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                • Sugar- bummer about the barn. Do you have a few to choose from?
                  Equicube was big a few years ago- you hold it while mounted, above the horse's withers, to engage your core and postural support muscles. It allows you to, in my case, fine tune my seat/leg aids and use my core properly without depending on my hands so much. First thing I said was "wait, I can't widen my hands". Pony didn't care, although our opinions might change when we trot. The instructional video on the website- man the girl is way to happy about using it at any gait. True to form, after reading up on it, I was, of course, holding it wrong. It still worked, but wasn't the majikal feeling I was hoping for. Here's to a short learning curve- I will report more as we use it.

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                  • Adult re-rider here. Haven't fallen off since before I took a break from riding in my mid-20s. Yesterday I rode another horse in the barn and fell off 3x during that one ride. Once from bucking & spinning (kind of an emergency dismount), then twice from being jumped way out of the tack & a subsequent bucking fit.

                    Does this mean I won't fall off again for the next 3 years? I don't know if my body can handle this anymore, lol.

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                    • Welcome, Mustang Twist. Sorry for your recent falls. Unfortunately, we've all been there. My falls tend to come in spurts. I hadn't fallen off in years and this spring and summer I came off two or three times. One off my beloved mare whom I was selling the very next day. I have never fallen off her throughout the time I owned her. She was rock solid. I had one last ride to say goodbye, and off I came. Maybe she was mad at me for rehoming her and wanted to give a good buck to tell me so! Her parting gift to me. You just never know.

                      Sugar...bummed about that barn.
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                      • Welcome welcome welcome Mustang Twist. The secret to not falling off for the next 3 years is NOT riding horses that buck and spin. If a horse bucked and spinned on me, I certainly would not have continued to jump it. Depending on the reason I would have continued with flat work or hopped off and lunged.

                        Though personally my horses are well lunged before being ridden until they are solid citizens to ride without being lunged. I am too old to ride anything that bucks. That said Stars has a buck so I am mindful of that and yes I was told that before buying him!!

                        Well I have made a decision. I put Stars in the paddock below the house. He is now separated from Sim. I am sick of Stars being bullied by Sim and I am sure Stars is sick of it as well.

                        Stars is okay with the decision and is fine. He has his own water trough, own brick lick, own tree for shelter, own hay and own grass to graze. He can eat his feed without being chased away.

                        The one not okay with the decision is hubby. Sigh. He is busy digging holes and welding and doing things to put Stars in the house yard, which is not big enough for him to graze so I guess I will put him out to graze during the day in the paddock below the house and in the house yard at night to greet hubby when he comes home!! and to greet him at the door in the morning.

                        At least it will stop Sim coming to the front door.

                        It is a day later now. Stars is now in the house yard and I dont have to carry water to him there. Although if I put a trough further down there he can have water in the other paddock as well without me carrying it.

                        The next time I took Stars out. I figured it was a lot of work and I took him up the trail before the steep hill. He thanked me by galloping and when I said slow he said he didnt want to and his head went down and .....
                        well about 10 strides later I had him back under control. It was probably a bit fast for him to do a proper buck, but he was playing and that is never good for the rider. I pushed him on and in future we will go up the steeper hill instead!

                        On Ben another 2 perfect right lead canters and this time my instructor saw them and commented that they were really good transitions and that that was great. I reminded him that, when he first put me on Ben, he said that if we couldn't get right lead canters he would be sent away for training. I think I have done pretty well in that he is only being ridden by me once a week with sometimes 3 weeks off at a time and in the mean time ridden in lessons and allowed to canter on the incorrect lead. To start with I didnt get any and thought I would not be the rider to do it.

                        A lesson with my instructor with Stars today. I did put liniment on Stars for 2 days. The 3rd day I forgot and on the 3rd day he walked straight down the downhill bit so he is getting better. He has stopped shaking his head when I remove the bridle. He is stepping back better.

                        I saw him get cornered with Sim and throw his head up to escape. That is when I decided to separate them permanently. The only reason he wasn't was because we were given Dodge and he took Stars' paddock we had been making for him.

                        I wanted to drop back in to the chiropractor today on the way home after seeing that, but he is spending his day doing the horses for the Outback Spectacular so I have booked him in for next week on our way home.
                        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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                        • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
                          Welcome, Mustang Twist. Sorry for your recent falls. Unfortunately, we've all been there. My falls tend to come in spurts. I hadn't fallen off in years and this spring and summer I came off two or three times. One off my beloved mare whom I was selling the very next day. I have never fallen off her throughout the time I owned her. She was rock solid. I had one last ride to say goodbye, and off I came. Maybe she was mad at me for rehoming her and wanted to give a good buck to tell me so! Her parting gift to me. You just never know.

                          Sugar...bummed about that barn.
                          Funny how that works! I had a young horse I sold who was pretty darn sound and smart...until I decided to sell her. Then she was getting bumps and bruises left and right. I think she was mad at me too.

                          Well, your last ride was certainly memorable lol!

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                          • Originally posted by SuzieQNutter View Post
                            Welcome welcome welcome Mustang Twist. The secret to not falling off for the next 3 years is NOT riding horses that buck and spin. If a horse bucked and spinned on me, I certainly would not have continued to jump it. Depending on the reason I would have continued with flat work or hopped off and lunged.

                            Though personally my horses are well lunged before being ridden until they are solid citizens to ride without being lunged. I am too old to ride anything that bucks. That said Stars has a buck so I am mindful of that and yes I was told that before buying him!!

                            Well I have made a decision. I put Stars in the paddock below the house. He is now separated from Sim. I am sick of Stars being bullied by Sim and I am sure Stars is sick of it as well.

                            Stars is okay with the decision and is fine. He has his own water trough, own brick lick, own tree for shelter, own hay and own grass to graze. He can eat his feed without being chased away.

                            The one not okay with the decision is hubby. Sigh. He is busy digging holes and welding and doing things to put Stars in the house yard, which is not big enough for him to graze so I guess I will put him out to graze during the day in the paddock below the house and in the house yard at night to greet hubby when he comes home!! and to greet him at the door in the morning.

                            At least it will stop Sim coming to the front door.

                            It is a day later now. Stars is now in the house yard and I dont have to carry water to him there. Although if I put a trough further down there he can have water in the other paddock as well without me carrying it.

                            The next time I took Stars out. I figured it was a lot of work and I took him up the trail before the steep hill. He thanked me by galloping and when I said slow he said he didnt want to and his head went down and .....
                            well about 10 strides later I had him back under control. It was probably a bit fast for him to do a proper buck, but he was playing and that is never good for the rider. I pushed him on and in future we will go up the steeper hill instead!

                            On Ben another 2 perfect right lead canters and this time my instructor saw them and commented that they were really good transitions and that that was great. I reminded him that, when he first put me on Ben, he said that if we couldn't get right lead canters he would be sent away for training. I think I have done pretty well in that he is only being ridden by me once a week with sometimes 3 weeks off at a time and in the mean time ridden in lessons and allowed to canter on the incorrect lead. To start with I didnt get any and thought I would not be the rider to do it.

                            A lesson with my instructor with Stars today. I did put liniment on Stars for 2 days. The 3rd day I forgot and on the 3rd day he walked straight down the downhill bit so he is getting better. He has stopped shaking his head when I remove the bridle. He is stepping back better.

                            I saw him get cornered with Sim and throw his head up to escape. That is when I decided to separate them permanently. The only reason he wasn't was because we were given Dodge and he took Stars' paddock we had been making for him.

                            I wanted to drop back in to the chiropractor today on the way home after seeing that, but he is spending his day doing the horses for the Outback Spectacular so I have booked him in for next week on our way home.
                            Thanks for the warm welcome! Also, very good advice re: lunging and not riding horses that buck and spin. Certainly that will increase my chances of future success

                            I'll give you some more context. I come from an eventing background and have ridden my fair share of . . . ahem, eccentric . . . horses. I'm also pretty fit and have fairly good balance. I rode & jumped this horse last weekend for the first time and he was well-behaved. I know his owner is a little anxious to ride him because he can jump her out of the tack, but didn't know the details. I told her I'd be happy to jump him around for her a few more times since he's for sale right now.

                            Anyway, I rode him again yesterday. My trainer said he hadn't been out for a few days, but he'd probably be alright. He was pretty well behaved on the flat for the first 15 minutes of work, then all of a sudden he sees a mound of dirt (literally) in the corner of the ring and absolutely loses it, bucking and spinning. I got tossed in the air and decided to E-dismount because I figured I had a better chance of landing on the ground than back in the saddle.

                            He had been pretty good before that so I decided to get back on and work through it, figuring if he kept messing around I could get off and lunge. He was good for the next 10 minutes or so - no more silly stuff. I decide to trot over a small crossrail. He doesn't rush or pull. Instead he trots calmly up to the fence, and then LAUNCHES over it and kicks his hind end up so high so it catapults me over his neck. I was like, "WTF just happened?!"

                            Anyway, I didn't want to end on a bad experience and I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I got back on to try it again. The next time I was ready for the leap, although it was still incredibly hard to stay on. It's almost difficult to describe what this felt like.

                            The next time we jump it, he starts bucking after the fence. It's becoming clear he's just goofing off and trying to test me. I want to get one good normal jump out of him so I can end my ride on a good note. We garnered a crowd of people watching this because it was apparently so entertaining.

                            It starts getting better and better. Then out of the blue he launches again - it felt like it was even higher than the first time - and catapults me over his neck, again. Ugh! So my trainer put half of the cross-rail down and we did it again a few times. Thankfully he was good and jumped normally over it both directions. I worked him for another 10 minutes on the flat and he was great. Go figure.

                            Anyway, I got home and told my husband I fell off 3x in one day. He assumed it was my friend's 5 year old OTTB I had jumped in my morning lesson. Nope. Then he assumed it was my horse, who was just starting back in work and was bound to be a little fresh. Nope. It was the 19 year old with one hell of a hind end. He didn't think it was as funny as I did.

                            Did I learn anything? Maybe, but I also might have a concussion so I've probably forgotten it. (kidding!)

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                            • Paradox - It's Jack

                              Sugar - Too bad about the barn, good luck with the continuing search :/ I wish you were in my area and could come to my barn!!

                              Mustang Twist - Well I admire you for getting back on! Since I have my own horse I don't get to ride many others, and have gotten a bit insecure riding unfamiliar horses.

                              Cupid is enjoying his downtime. It's been raining on and off, with more in the forecast coming up. The pastures got scraped, which is helping with the mud especially around the gates. I hate winter!
                              http://trainingcupid.blogspot.com/

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                              • TC- I love the name Jack, some of my favorite patients were named Jack

                                Mustang- welcome, welcome! I'm sorry you had such an eventful ride. Hopefully that will satisfy the fall-off-o-meter so you're good for a long time. I always think it's funny how the seniors have way more sass than the youngsters sometimes. The Pony I ride is 20 and she is mostly lazy, until you get a few canter laps, then she's quite perky. Especially if she sees poles or crossrails. I'm not brave riding new horses- I'm working up to riding the newest barn acquisition Lucy the greenish QH.

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                                • Originally posted by MustangTwist View Post

                                  Funny how that works! I had a young horse I sold who was pretty darn sound and smart...until I decided to sell her. Then she was getting bumps and bruises left and right. I think she was mad at me too.

                                  Well, your last ride was certainly memorable lol!
                                  My tailbone still feels it 7 months later. She was 19 as well!

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                                  • TC...Jack...I like it!

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                                    • TC - let me add my congratulations on the birth of your son! The adventures that await you - enjoy. Wellyworld stories to come.....

                                      Mustang - welcome! And, wow! Way to follow through on the ride. Makes one wonder what he was like as a 10 yr. old

                                      Sugar - too bad about the barn. I know many trainers that have a "prejudice" against cribbers. Some believe horses can pick up the habit from each other. I'm not so sure that's true. Others just don't like the wear and tear on their facility. Can't blame them for that. Here's hoping something works out soon.

                                      Lucky - I think I've said it before but, the walk is considered the forgotten gait. A lot can be accomplished at the walk. I'm not familiar with the Equicube either. Could certainly benefit from some core work myself!

                                      Horses shipped to FL yesterday and arrived safe and sound. DD and I went to the barn on Sat. to give them their "no shenanigans" talk. Oliver was giving me a look but I think he was just hoping for more cookies. They'll have a few days to acclimate then my trainer will start lightly working them. DD will probably have a lesson when we visit mid-month. I'll ride but wait until we return in Jan. for the duration to start "boot camp". We're still heading down right after the New Year even though the Horsemastership clinic is taking a year off. Actual WEF shows start Jan. 16, pre-circuit is going on now.

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                                      • Lost- glad to know I'm not the only one who has "the talk", and yeah, Pony and Oliver would be best buddies as she always angles for more cookies, too Can't wait to hear more Welly-world updates, I love hearing about everyone's adventures. I agree with you about the walk- often I feel wimpy when it's all we do, but done well, it can still be a workout. I have this inner voice that always says "you came all this way, to just walk" but I have to shift the mindset- there's no "just" anything. Riding is riding and working on the partnership.

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                                        • Lucky - That sounds super cool, I'm sure you can feel it in your abs the next day!

                                          PF - Speaking of Katy, any idea how she is doing at her new home?

                                          TC - Great name! I'm sure Cupid is enjoying a little vacation, and what a better time for a break than when the weather is not cooperating!

                                          Mustang - Welcome! Ouch, hope you're not feeling too banged up after the falls. I agree with Paradox, they do tend to come in spurts for me as well! Knock on wood, it's been nearly a year since I was bucked off a jumper I was leasing, and probably a couple of years prior to that that I had three falls in one week off my own horse! Now I probably just jinxed myself!

                                          Lost - I totally understand the bias, but it is a little annoying, especially since Cash is 100% controlled with a collar. Oh well....excited for you guys to get down to WEF this year, hopefully the time away from the horses goes quickly!

                                          Tigre, Bitsa, Faye - You guys around? Hope you're all doing well!


                                          I called my trainer yesterday and told her how much trouble I was having finding a new trainer and ironically enough she had run into the original trainer she had recommended for me (who I was having trouble getting in touch with) at a show this past weekend. They chatted about me and that trainer mentioned how bad she felt for not remembering to call me back and finally ended up texting me yesterday.

                                          A few other clients of my trainer's have moved/are moving there at the of the month when my trainer moves away so at least there will be some familiar faces there! Very relieved! I'm meeting with her next weekend, it can't come soon enough.

                                          Cash has been turned out THREE times in the past 3.5 weeks and we're both going insane. He kept trying to spook and bolt during our ride yesterday, even though has been worked every day. I can't blame him, but it's getting really old. Have I mentioned I'm ready to move him?!

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