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    Wishing a very happy Thanksgiving to all my RR friends. Enjoy your day!
    My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


      Happy Thanksgivings.

      Thanksgivings has not come in here yet. Some people do to Halloween and in some areas they also trick or treat but I would say over 50% of people do not do it and the only reason they give is that it is am American tradition and not an Australian one.

      The shops have really taken to it and sell decorations. There is one house in Boonah that goes all out and decorates for Halloween when I am doing pamphlets.

      BUT quite a few retailers have cottoned on to the black Friday sales. I guess more and more will each year.

      I had a lesson on Ben on Thursday. I took the ute to pick up a bike someone was giving me and I forgot to put in jodhpurs. I went to Best and Less and paid $8.00 for some blue leggings. Nobody at the lesson said anything.

      I felt strong in the saddle and I really felt close contact with him. I will stick with riding in leggings from now on. I asked for 3 right lead canters and really positioned my legs. They were perfect transitions. No surging like he used to. No thinking about left and me having to correct. I put my hand up and said if anything happens to him like Sim or Dodge, I will take him. We would have to get rid of Twiggy if that happened but at the moment he is going well at the riding school and I really do not need 4 horses in work.

      Not that we have 4 horses in work at the moment. The chiropractor said Sim has done the splits with his hind legs and he is going to be out for months. It has been 2 so far

      I have missed quite a few lessons on Ben and Stars because I have been working. Last week hubby was home and organised the vet to come on Tuesday so I couldn't go to my lesson on Stars. All 4 were given the Hendra vaccine on the near side and a 2 in 1 for strangles and tetanus in the off side.

      Before that Stars and I went out for a ride. Then I rode him in the arena. We have been doing that with hubby in the arena when he is home. He lowers the lunge whip when I say slow. I am starting to actually collect him a little in the slow now and he raises the lunge whip when I say quick.

      There is no ears back or slowing from Stars with us doing that. Also happily no bucking. Now to get that without hubby. I do think Stars needs another visit to the chiropractor. Sigh.

      After that we went down and mustered the cattle up. It is the first time he has really done that. I kept him slow. Just walk and trot. I was happy that he stayed calm. He did not react when a beast suddenly turns and pissbolts which is very exciting. He did halt when I asked to give them time to go forward. Even the little calves went the way we wanted which on other days the opposite can happen.

      I said to hubby wasn't Stars good. He said yes he was but he didn't do anything on his own. He only did what I told him to do.

      Sheesh. It was his first time and he has had generations of being a race horse not a cow pony. What did he expect? Even cutting horses are taught how to chase a cow on an imitation cow. They don't just go out and do it on their first time.
      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


        My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


          Thanks, PF! You too Have you decided to give the horses a vacation for now?

          Our high was 27 yesterday, and it was a beautiful 60 degrees over the weekend! Crazy! Cash was out of his mind wild between being cooped up for almost THREE weeks now and the massive temp change!

          I'm meeting with two new trainers this week, really hoping I find a barn I like! One of the two sounds really, really promising. Feeding tailored specifically to each horse, daily turnout, large, airy stalls. Trainer took several kids to medal finals and pony fingers crossed


            Sugar, I'm crossing my fingers for you!! I hope one of these works out for you! I'm still on the fence about winter, but for what it's worth, I haven't ridden in two weeks. So then I get a nice day, and wonder if I should even bother, since it's been two weeks, and then the horse will likely be off for another 2 weeks. Just not sure it's worth it. Sigh. When we move to Lexington, I'm seriously thinking that I'll need a place with an indoor arena, even if it's small.
            My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


              Holy crap.

              I knew this woman. Though we were not super close friends, we chatted all the time at shows and she came over to my farm and brought here horses in the past to ride. Very sad and very scary. I am wondering if it was a health issue or what. She was super nice.

              A reminder to be careful, my RR friends!
              My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                Oh my gosh, PF! How awful (and terrifying!)....that's disturbing that it happened at a boarding barn too, you'd think someone would have been around when it happened ((HUGS))

                I totally hear you on the winter riding, that was exactly how I felt last winter when mine were home. But, I get seriously grumpy when I don't ride, so I forced myself to at least do walk work on days the weather wasn't cooperating. More power to you if you can enjoy a horse-vacation though, I don't think the horses mind one bit!


                  Hi All,

                  I hope you had good Thanksgivings. The weather in Tucson has been beautiful, but I didn't ride over Thanksgiving. I had a poultry show (yes, I raise, breed, and show chickens) which kept me busy, among other family obligations. Plus I didn't have help with Malcolm. He is my 13 year old son, who has severe autism. It's hard to concentrate on the horses when he's with me.

                  I did get back on after my fall a few weeks ago. I only did a couple circles, but it was better than nothing. I was nervous getting on that I wept. Truly. I hope I can get through this. On a positive note, I finally got my drain out!
                  You hate that, dont you? Do you like oysters? You have to acquire a taste for oysters and the deep distance.
                  -- George H. Morris on learning to love the deep distance


                    PF - winter riding is something I don't miss in the least! Of course, this Nov. has felt more like Wnter than Fall. I'd rather not ride at all then have less than satisfactory rides. Why take the hit to your confidence or pass your tensions on to your horse? Your guys get enough turn out and if your ring isn't frozen I'm sure a good longe gives them enough work. We're not supposed to get out of the 30's for the rest of the week, I last rode before Thanksgiving and I won't again until I get to FL. Even my trainer didn't ride the day after Thanksgiving when it fell to the 20's . You do what you're comfortable with.

                    Lucky - about clipping in the winter, it sure makes my horse a bit "fresher". I certainly don't need my spurs as he is more responsive to my leg. He adjusts after a couple days, unless the temps take a big drop. When I used to spend the whole winter up north I usually rode with a quarter sheet and warmed up with a wool cooler on top. And clipped early Nov. so some hair would have grown back by the time it got really cold! I'd ride in temps as low as the mid-20's (in the indoor). Lower than that and I didn't think it was fair to either of us!

                    Greys - have a great trip! Fingers crossed your little guy is a good traveler. Safe travels.

                    Sugar - hoping one of the trainers is all you're looking for! I can imagine you just want to be settled somewhere soon.

                    After my "spooky pony" non ride last week, I got on the next day (with ear plugs) and had a perfectly fine ride. Turns out it will be my last until we get to FL. Appointments and winter temps will keep me out of the saddle this week. Horses will ship down Sunday and they get at least two days off before. DD and I are planning a long weekend mid-Dec so we shouldn't suffer from horse withdrawal too badly.


                      Greys - He came on Thanksgiving day, 3 days after my estimated due date. I thought I still had a few weeks to go because I never hit the uncomfortable stage, but I guess I was just lucky. He is small, but healthy and things are going well so far

                      Mrs FDF - Sending you good thoughts, sounds like you have an awful lot on your plate and I hope horses can become a happy distraction for you again.

                      Paradox - What a sad story

                      Austen - Can't wait to hear your stories from FL

                      Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving, and are staying warm!! It has been raining here, though not too cold.


                        Congratulations TC!! Much happiness to you and family TC!!


                          Congrats, TC! Apparently I missed the exciting news! Hope you are all doing well


                            I'm lost. Explain!! TC? Did you have a baby? If so I'm totally out of the loop! Mighty congrats if I'm reading that correctly.
                            My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                              Happy belated Thanksgiving to everyone!!

                              PF - Oh gosh how terrible! I'm sorry for your loss... that's another example of why I always tell at least two people when I'm going to be at the barn by myself and tell them I'm going to check in by a certain time. Truly an unfortunate event.

                              MrsFDF - Good job getting back to it after your fall! I love the fall/winter weather in Arizona so I'm jealous! (sitting here currently in a mess of icy mud and irregular rain/snow mix in MI - bleh!)


                              Can't wait for the end of this week and the end of my self-inflicted no-stirrups torture. Since I achieved my goal of consistently completing 2'-2'3" courses without irons well before the end of the month (by the beginning of Week 2, actually!) I treated myself to a pair of new Tailored Sportsmans as an early reward. Just one more lesson and one more ride on the flat left and then I get my BLESSED RELIEF!

                              Video of some coursework from last night's lesson:


                                TC- congrats! I'm glad you and baby are doing well.

                                FDF- I'm glad the drain finally came out, hopefully more positive riding adventures await.

                                PF- condolences on the loss of your friend, how scary.


                                  PF How scary. I am always on at hubby about the girth. His first fall was the first time he tacked up Pepper and he did not put the girth up tight enough. Sim had a rub because he did not put the girth up tight enough and the saddle went back. I don't know what it is as hubby is so much stronger than I am. I think it has something to do with the horses blowing up. I have also taught him always to check the girth again before mounting. So if you dismount, if you lunge first, whatever. Check the girth before mounting, and if you do tighten it walk the horse around the mounting block again. Don't tighten the girth and then hop on without moving the horse. I will show that link to hubby.

                                  If I was over there I would be where there is an indoor arena. It is so annoying to have a horse out of work because of weather. Sigh that is what happens over here, but no snow, so we really don't have any excuse, and the expense is not really warranted but oh so wanted. That said I did not ride Stars yesterday. Rain in the morning and then the most awful hot gale. I even put my own hair in a ponytail which I don't normally do but in that gale there was not point not doing so.

                                  Lucky one of the tricks on clipping is don't clip the saddle pad. You leave it a little smaller than the saddle shape usually. Some horses can really react to the saddle blanket once newly clipped as the hair is not lying flat. You could also do the shape of the saddle blanket.

                                  TC I am out of the loop as well. A baby?

                                  Sugar Good luck vibes. That sounds promising.

                                  At the Festival of Dressage we went to a couple of weeks ago, Gareth said there is a day that he takes the horses out with no pressure. Actually he didn't, they have riders that do that for them.

                                  So I did that last week. I let him choose the path and the speed. I was on a loose rein. I didn't ride in the arena on our return.

                                  I normally take him out before riding in the arena now. On a long rein I walk, go down and up, walk, trot, canter, trot walk and canter to the metal fence. Go down and canter up a steep hill which he does not canter the whole way up, then turn left canter and when I go past a post I say quick and do a faster canter to a post at the end of that bit of trail. I walk back a bit, then pick up the reins to notch 2 and trot and then canter back to the steep hill and a loose rein walk down that, notch 2 trot and canter back to the metal fence and around it and back to where it is going down. Then walk down and up and I have trotted and canter back to the gate and lead down the drive way and then take his hoof boots off, swap to 2 dressage whips, walk up to the arena and mount. I then figure he is warm and get annoyed though trying to stay patient when he says he is not warm enough to work. My instructor has said 3 steps of slow then 3 steps of quick and that he MUST go forward in the 3 quick to the best of his ability. He needs to be forward quicker.

                                  This has not been working and it it has been a few months now. I get the slowing and ears back. I can get the kicking out. This slowing and ears back does not happen when hubby is in the arena. with the lunge whip. Which makes you think it is mental.

                                  So this week with the no pressure ride. He chooses again to turn to the right before the steep hill. He then canters quite fast up a little hill. This is much faster than on my route. Then we walk and we do a bit of trot and he was being silly and shying so I abandoned the no pressure ride and picked up notch 2 and we trotted and cantered around on the flat on the trails. I am feeling so much stronger. I am able to sit up and pick him up.

                                  When we arrived back at the steep hill, I decided to take him up that and he cantered the whole way up that hill and when we got to the place that I usually say quick I didn't say a thing and he went into a hand gallop.

                                  Back at the arena I had the most lovely ride. He was forward he was up, Counter canter was magical and I just had to look. So that makes me think it is physical.

                                  So at the lesson I lunged him first which we have not been doing. I let him warm up slower. He did not do any ears back and no kicking out. My instructor was not happy though as he said that by the time he is warm he has done enough work and although I am stronger, I had already told him I am not fitter, so by the time we are ready to work we only did 10 minutes and we are both spent. He is hot with foam between his legs and I am starting to flag.

                                  I told him I am happy with that. Quality over quantity and in the heat of summer I might only get 2 minutes of work and in winter we might get half an hour.

                                  But I will compromise and not lunge him next lesson and just get on and try and warm him up 'nicely' and see if we can get any better than that.

                                  I dropped in at the Chiropractor on the way back. He was out in his poll and his jaw and his back. I really know that I have to move him from being out with Sim. Sim is such a bully sigh, but they and hubby seem happy with the situation. I might move Stars down into the paddock below the house. I can put water down there and just move him in there for a few hours a day. I am doing that now to separate them for feeding as Stars is getting now. Sim then acts like he has been separated for weeks when he comes back out. Sigh. Horses who would want one?

                                  He also was tight in his hamstring and I am to put liniment on that. That will cause him to not want to step back and not want to go downhill.

                                  2 things I have been experiencing with him not wanting to back with the saddle on before he walks forward to stop him jumping and bucking and with going down on the trail and if I give him a tap with the whip and say walk faster he just stops and says, "Leave me alone. I am doing what you want."

                                  He has also been shaking his head when I take the bridle off.

                                  So hopefully he is happier now.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                    Technicolor - You guys look AWESOME! Way to stick with it all month long, I'm super impressed!!

                                    Checked out one barn yesterday and wasn't all that excited about's definitely my plan B for now. Going to check out another this weekend that I'm thinking will be exactly what I'm looking for. I've seen the trainer at several shows and have always been impressed with her coaching and her riders so I'm excited to meet with her!

                                    Had a fabulous ride today, although I wasn't sure how it would go when I was tacking up. They didn't get turned out AGAIN today (no clue why, they went out yesterday and we had no rain?!) and he was dancing in the crossties and generally being rude so I half expected him to be an ass during our ride - although I really can't blame him.

                                    Instead, he used his energy for good rather than evil and we had a super productive day of flatwork. Being trainer-less the past couple of months has really allowed me to focus on our flatwork and fill in what I've felt like were some holes we've both's really fun to see it all starting to come together now!


                                      TC - Congrats on the new little one! Little is ok as long as they're eating and gaining!

                                      PF - How awful and sad. My heart goes out to her family. Scary, scary stuff.

                                      Tech - What a great course! You two look fab. I'm just wishing I can make it around the arena these days (with stirrups), nevermind jumping.

                                      You hate that, dont you? Do you like oysters? You have to acquire a taste for oysters and the deep distance.
                                      -- George H. Morris on learning to love the deep distance


                                        Tech- what a lovely ride, very smooth and flowing. I do love your horse's expression. I forgot his name.

                                        Sugar- I'm glad your ride went well, despite the crosstie antics. Pre-ride behaviors always make me nervous. Jingles for the new barn to be the right fit!

                                        FDF- you will get back to where you were- I believe in you


                                          MrsF - I missed your last post. I can only imagine how difficult mentally that first ride back was for you, but I'm so happy that you got on and did it! How do you feel after that ride? I can't remember which re-rider used to talk about the "piggy bank" but she would say that for each good ride where nothing bad happened, you put a coin in a piggy bank. In time, you begin to realize that the good rides are plentiful, whereas the bad rides are really quite rare. It's so normal for your mind to dwell on the what-ifs and worry about falling off or getting hurt, but it reality those rides are the exception, not the norm. Big hugs to you, stay with what you're comfortable with and don't feel like you have to push yourself.

                                          Lucky - Oh, I know! Usually when he has that look in his eye when I'm tacking up, it means he's going to be naughty the whole ride, so I was pleasantly surprised that he was so good. I think I'm also realizing after having him for 7 years that his naughty is totally rideable so maybe I just don't take his nonsense anymore and instead make him focus on me?

                                          Alright, I'm in need of a little re-rider support right now. I'm kind of freaking out about meeting with this trainer this weekend. I'm feeling underqualified to be at her barn on my off-breed, non-fancy horse and don't feel like my riding is good enough to be there. She has mostly juniors doing the Big Eq on their very nice horses and I'm honestly feeling a bit intimidated.

                                          My saving grace is that I'll be shopping in the next couple of months for a fancy hunter, and that's when I plan to move Cash back home and semi-retire him, but in the meantime I'm worried. But, that's the same reason I want to start riding with her now. I want her to get to know me and my strengths and weaknesses so that she can find me the perfect horse. I have a cute, honest horse who holds his own at the rated shows but is nothing compared to the horses in her barn. Talk me off the ledge please before I wimp out...