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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • Ugh, tall boot shopping is as bad as saddle shopping IMO! I have the Tredstep Raphael's and they are miserable to walk in also....they still rub my Achilles raw and I've had them a couple of years now.

    Lucky - Jingles for your friend, how sad.

    PF - Glad you had a good ride on TBG! What kind of groundwork do you do with him? Cash has been in for over a week due to nonstop rain and I could use some ideas!

    WIP - Yes please keep posting those exercises! I'm trainer-less at the moment and could use some inspiration So glad barn A is working out so well for you, sounds like you found a great trainer to learn from!

    Faye - Goose is half Missouri Fox Trotter, so he sometimes gaits! I don't necessarily want him gaiting, and if I push him forward he trots so I try to encourage that as much as possible. His gait is really comfortable, just not something I have any need for

    Lost - Good for you on NSN! I haven't been brave enough to take mine off yet, but Cash hasn't had turnout in over a week and I'm afraid I'd die Maybe next week! I don't know about the leg position thing, I've wondered about that myself. If I do a stirrupless lesson I've always kept my normal position, but if I'm playing around on my own I'll sometimes let them hang, especially if I'm working on my sitting trot. I feel like I can get much deeper in the saddle with my legs just draped down. Curious to hear other's experiences on this!

    I was sick with a sinus infection last week, and out of town this past weekend, so I haven't gotten much riding in lately. Like I said, we've had nonstop rain (but the sun is shining today!) and poor Cash has been stuck in his stall for over a week. This barn is very particular with their pastures, which I understand, but I feel bad for him being stuck inside so much. I wish they at least had dry lots or somewhere they could go when it's wet!

    With me being gone all weekend, the poor guy stood in his stall from Friday-Sunday so yesterday he couldn't be happier to see me. I put him on the lunge line first, and he was like lunging a kite He was good for our ride though, even though I could tell he was having naughty thoughts! Hoping he'll be back to his old reliable self today.

    In other news, I think I found a new trainer. Hoping to meet with her in the next week or two. Will update when I know more!


    • SugarCubes - try some Mole Skin on the inside heel of your boot. You can find it at most local drug stores. Make sure it's cotton and get the kind that has an adhesive backing. That may help with the rubbing.
      ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~


      • Lucky and Trot On - I had a very poor experience with Tuff Rider boots (zipper broke within a few months on one, shortly after on the other, and within a year the entire sole started to separate and the heel actually fell off - just from riding my one horse ~5 days/week), but hopefully you have better luck. On the other hand I've been very happy with my current Ariats, still going strong after 2 years (I hope I didn't just jinx myself!!) I find the Ariats very comfortable, and like that they have semi-custom size options for height and width.

        Sugar - Does that mean no turnout pretty much all winter?? Hopefully Cash will adjust. I hope the trainer works out!

        Paradox - Yay for being back on TBG!

        Lost - You're lucky G is comfortable! I don't really do no stirrup work because Cupid is definitely not comfortable, but if I do I keep my legs as if they are in stirrups. But during walk warm up I've been taking my feet out of the stirrups and stretching them long.

        Not much new to report with Cupid. He's been a bit on the lazy side, I think (at least in part) because he's not clipped and it's still pretty warm. He eventually works out of it though and once he gets going it feels quite good. I'm already starting to look ahead to next year's calendar!!


        • I was sitting in a parking garage today downtown N'ville and sent a post. Well, it didn't go through and I lost it. I hate that. I'll try to recreate it.

          Austen, did you go to London primarily to watch the Eagles? If so, how cool! I would love to do something like that.

          As far as no stirrup work, I have done both. Now I kind of use a hybrid of both options. When I'm doing sit trot and canter work, I tend to have longer legs. I do, however, make sure my toes are not down. Then when doing posting trot work I have a more stirrup-like posture.

          Sugar, I've started pretty much from scratch with lunge work, etc. I'm loosely following the 101 lunge and long line exercises book by Cherry Hill. And I take parts of that, and mix parts of others' ideas and just do what works for me. But I'm really wanting to get him used to voice commands on the line, etc. I'm hoping I can get him to do voice commands for canter so that will carry over to the ridden work. I actually have several books on ground work that I love to peek through at different times. If my round pen would dry up (no actual sand footing in it yet, so need to get it dry) I would love to do more "free" work in there. Good luck with the trainer! Keep us posted.


          I did manage to get a ride in yesterday afternoon before the storms blew in. I rode TBG and managed to get a canter in both directions. I didn't do that the first ride back. On a positive, his trot work is coming along NICELY. So I'm happy with that. I will try to get one more ride in today before it gets cold out.

          Last night we had tornadic activities here. One touched down probably five to ten miles away. One house collapsed (woman died, sad) and a mobile home flipped over. And of course with it were the t'storms. So with our phone notifications and warnings going off all night, we didn't get a lot of sleep last night.

          Happy riding, all!
          Last edited by ParadoxFarm; Jun. 10, 2019, 03:56 PM.
          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


          • Missed of few of you. TC, good thinking looking ahead to the calendar. I need to do that as well. I really need to take my ponies to a show. I think dressage to start. Just baby stuff.

            Sugar, also, if you find you DO need to ride in your uncomfy boots, have you tried gel sleeves? I used those with my Tredsteps, and whenever I need to break anything new in. They were originally made for figure skaters I believe. Not sure if that is what 4LCF was mentioning, but this is what I use:

            lucky, keep me posted on the spring sale. I've been to the Wallace Trailer ones a few times. Never found anything really, really great. But I'm always up to looking. It hasn't been the same since the Jaeckle Center had the sales. Those were great.
            My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


            • Lost- what exactly are the tricks with boots that zip? I'm hoping to hold out for pull-ons but just in case I have to cross over to the dark side

              Sugar- I love your description of Cash, Pony has definitely had the naughty thoughts as well.

              TC- thanks for sharing your tall boot experience. I'm not totally hung up on any one brand, I just don't want to spend a lot, as in under $100, which leaves out a lot.

              PF- I will definitely keep you posted. I may try my luck at French's too- they had lots of pull-ons the last time I was looking, before they moved from Columbia Ave.


              • Lucky - since boots are a pain to shop for and break in, I personally would spend more upfront and get something better quality. Like I said the Tuffriders lasted me 1 year with 2 zipper repairs; Dublins ($150 range I think) were about the same and also needed zipper repair. My Ariats are one of their low-medium end ones and knock on wood they are holding up beautifully. There will probably be some good black Friday deals coming up!


                • Lucky - I've had good luck with Ariats and Mountain Horse boots as far as zippers go. The brand I've heard to stay away from are (surprisingly) DeNiro's; my barn's assistant trainer got a custom pair just over a year ago and she's had to replace the zipper on each boot at $90 a pop. The first one just completely split less than three months into her using them and wouldn't re-mesh. The second zipper gave a few months after that. She's very much less than thrilled since they cost a pretty penny.


                  No stirrup November is in full swing - had my first full-out lesson without and didn't fall off, die, make a fool of myself, etc. My trainer likes to ease us all into things and treats it as a sort of post-show-season vacation for the horses (less intense flatwork, fewer jumps, etc.) and we took a good number of breaks. I've been doing well so far developing my stamina at the posting trot and figuring out how to better lighten my seat at the canter so that Cosmo doesn't scoot forward so much. We also jumped a three jump mini-course (!) which is the most I've jumped without stirrups this far. Huzzah!


                  • 4leaf - Unfortunately, they rub right at the base of the zipper so I don't think mole skin would work. I want a pair of Parlantis, so maybe I'll put those on my Christmas list

                    TC - That's what I'm afraid of It would make for a very long winter if that's the case, but it really depends what kind of winter we get. Some years the ground stays frozen, other years we have that icky freeze/thaw. If it's a warmer winter, I don't see much turnout happening. I just keep telling myself it's temporary....we'll survive

                    PF - Ahh yes! My SIL has those gel sleeves and I always forget about them. I need to pick up a pair. I also need to check out that book, I'm terrible at groundwork and need some ideas. When you are cantering TBG are you using the whole ring? When Cash is being strong like that, my trainer would have me keep him in a shoulder fore on a 20m circle, which would keep him from dragging me around and also kept him balanced. Or, we'd canter half a circle then back to the trot before he could build up steam. Just a thought. Scary about those tornados, glad you're safe!

                    Lucky - Haha yes....I can always tell by his eyes when he's in a naughty mood!

                    Techni - Wow! Good for you on a great stirrupless lesson, I'm impressed

                    Had a good ride yesterday, but still feel like Cash is a little NQR to the left. He feels the same way he did before I had his SIs injected so I'm a little concerned. I'm hoping it's just stiffness from being in his stall so much, but the last few lessons I had before he colicked and we moved barns we were jumping around 2'9" which is pushing his limits so I'm worried we overdid it.


                    • technicolor- great job with NSN! I'm working up my bravery to join in.

                      sugar- jingles for Cash-man. You're such a good mom to him

                      so I'm almost to the conclusion that if I can hold out for tall boots that pull-on, I will be better off than with zippers. With my luck, if I did get zippers, they would bust at the horse show.

                      TC- the one store I want to check out normally has loads of Ariats. I think I may treat myself to a field trip and go boot shopping next week, or at least boot looking.


                      • Hi All,

                        I rode for the first time since my most recent surgery. I was really nervous, but told myself it would be all good even if I just walked for a little bit. Turned out I walked mostly and trotted a little bit. I still have my surgical drain in, so I had to be really careful I didn't yank it out sliding off. We have a huge cavernous indoor, and that's what makes me most nervous. I don't know why. I wish I could get my confidence back.

                        I'm debating doing an eventing derby event the first weekend in December. It's a dressage test and a combo xc/sj round. It's pre-comp, which is max 2'3". I suppose I could just trot the fences if I got nervous. I'll wait til after my lesson this weekend to figure out what I want to do.

                        SC- I loathe tall boot fitting. I just bought a pair of used Vogels off eBay. They were wicked cheap because they don't have zippers. The calf fit, but I couldn't get my arch through the throat of the boot. I brought them to a local shoe repair shop for zippers. Hopefully, they don't mess them up too much.

                        You hate that, dont you? Do you like oysters? You have to acquire a taste for oysters and the deep distance.
                        -- George H. Morris on learning to love the deep distance


                        • Hi, MrsF. Glad you're able to get back in the saddle! It can be therapeutic! I'm wondering, though, if you're putting too much pressure on yourself with that timeline. I would really suggest to just take it easy and enjoy getting back on a horse, but don't yet force a timeline on yourself. The jumps may seem small "on paper" but if you haven't done it in a while, it will feel bigger. Make sure you're healed up and ready for the next challenge...on an easy timeline. Good luck.

                          lucky, I bought my Vortex and my Volants at French's in Franklin. You may luck out there. You just never know what they will have in the back there. I think I paid 129 for the Volants a few years ago, and 149 for the Vortex last year (both brand new).

                          techni, good job on your NSN! I'm skipping it this year since I've only been back in the saddle for a few rides. That's my excuse anyway!

                          sugar, I'm like you, I keep TBG on the circle when I canter, especially when he's strong. I should try to add some lateral work too. Sorry about Cash. Sending jingles his way. I wonder if you're kind of in the spot I was with Katie and she just didn't feel right jumping. She was fine on the flat, but it was a very tough choice on what I should do with her.

                          Speaking of Katie, I received another nice email from her current "mom" along with pics. She's doing mostly trail riding, competitive-type trail stuff, etc. She looks so cute in her western saddle! I'm not going to post it here, but if anyone wants to see a pic, send me a PM.

                          Am I being a wuss right now for not wanting to go out and work my big pony? It's cold out (to me) and I lack motivation. But tomorrow is going to rain. I SHOULD work him....but really don't feel like it. I'm totally on the right now. ACK. And losing daylight. Decision, decision.
                          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                          • PF- no condemnation here, it is getting cold. Of course it will be cold for my lesson Sunday- the low Sat night is 27 and I ride at 9:30. Thank goodness for long underwear and a covered arena Yes, I was hoping for the cheapie rack at French's. I'm going to wear my breeches to try them on- I have a pair that are roomier than another, so I figure they would take up the most room possible so I should wear those vs the skinny pair.


                            • Lucky - the best "trick" with zippers is to see if the tack shop has a chain with a hook on one end and a loop/handle on the other end. DD got one of these with her semi- custom boots. The hook and chain gives you some leverage pulling up the zippers. The zip pulls can be so small! Another is to squish your finger inside and help guide up the zipper, giving you a little space (and preventing socks/breeches from getting caught!) Good luck in your search.

                              PF - yes, the primary reason we went to London was for the Eagles game. But, I'll use any excuse to get over there! I get over about once a year or every 18 months. My very favorite city! I always say that if I didn't have horses, I'd have a flat in London. I hear you on the "do I or don't I ride". I had a lesson today as I told my trainer it was probably the last day before I started wimping out. High of 40* on Sat!?! Full chaps weather and DD as back up rider if G is too fresh! (She never minds popping on him for a bit.) Working TBG on a circle when he's strong is always a good choice. I do an exercise of 10 strides trot, 10 strides canter, repeat as long as you like. 10 strides canter is usually not long enough for them to get strong. Plus, it's great for my downward transition work.

                              Cupid - no stirrups at the walk is still no stirrups work! They say the walk is the forgotten gait. Much can be accomplished at a good forward walk.

                              Sugar - our barn is also particular about the fields and turnout when it's wet. But as my trainer has a full service program (read: my horses and I are spoiled) they get hand walked in the indoor several times a day on rainy days. This week my trainer actually came in on Monday to ride them as we didn't ride on Sunday due to a show at the barn and rain was forecast for Mon. and Tues. Winter can be tough! I'm excited to hear about your new trainer- hope it go's well!

                              MrsFitz - I'll echo PF, please don't overdo! I'm sure riding makes you feel like yourself again but do be careful with yourself.

                              As mentioned above, I had a lesson today. First one in about three weeks. It went pretty well except G was sluggish picking up the canter. I'd like to think it's because he's so fuzzy (think: woolly mammoth!) and didn't feel my aid but I'm afraid it's more my position had deteriorated somewhat. My trainer had me drop my stirrups so my legs would be longer for the transition and he was an angel. Yay? I wasn't quite ready for no stirrups at the canter (I didn't think) but we stayed together so, I guess I was! You know you've worked pretty hard when it's 50* and your half chaps are all sweaty! I think I might feel it tomorrow.....


                              • Well, I've survived the first week of twice weekly lessons during no stirrup November. It's flatwork only thank god. First lesson I was super nervous about falling off and only did at most one length of the arena. During the second lesson today I did two full laps at the sitting trot, multiple times - and it was a working trot too. I might end up getting the hang of this.

                                My instructor really focused on us being loose, relaxed, and not gripping. I really had to work at sitting back, as my first instinct when I feel unbalanced is to curl forwards instead of sitting deep and back.

                                I had a short hack this week too, and it was so weird riding by myself! I had the entire arena to myself. I worked a lot on my two point, trying to build up strength.

                                In regards to tall boots, I think I'm going to get the Ovation flex boots. I have huge calves, so my boot choices are pretty limited. I don't want to go custom because I'm still working on losing weight.

                                I like the flex idea especially, since unfortunately my Achilles tendonitis has come back with a vengeance. Right now I'm riding with the bottom of my half chaps unzipped, and I'm going to buy some flexible stirrups. The potential lease horse I tried had them on his saddle, and although it was a short ride it seemed to really help.

                                Does anyone record themselves riding? If so, what do you use? I want to record my hacks. I'll be in an indoor arena, and gps doesn't work there unfortunately. Ideas?



                                • Austen - Forward is the key word, I admit I get a bit lazy sometimes but I've been trying to be better about it.

                                  WIP - I have that same tendency to come up over the neck when I get nervous. It's slowly getting better, but a very hard habit to change!!

                                  Sugar - are you going to the game tonight??

                                  Greys - I hope you're not close to this latest fire!!! We have smoke from the Butte county fire, even though it's over 200 miles away.

                                  Due to the poor air quality I took it easy today, just hopping on Cupid bareback for a stroll around the property. I was kind of bummed though because the arena was full of the perfect tiny jumps!!
                                  Last edited by Training Cupid; Nov. 9, 2018, 06:29 PM.


                                  • Cupid - It's hard to be active when the air is so smoky. Glad the fire is so far away from you. It's amazing how far it travels!


                                    • Watching the news and hoping all of our California reriders are safe - how terrifying!

                                      TC - Yes!! Great game, can't believe we got a shut out! Were you watching? Hope the fires stay well away from you and Cupid!

                                      Woke up this morning to snow and temps in the teens....BRRR! I don't think I'm quite ready for winter yet!


                                      • Lost- way to do NSN

                                        Jingles for all of our California re-riders and their horses.

                                        No riding for me this weekend- I got called in to work Sunday and have family stuff today. I'm kinda glad, as the revised weather said low of 25 tonight.


                                        • Ditto about Jingles for all California riders and their horses. I can't imagine anything more terrifying than out of control fires.
                                          ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~