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  • Sugar, Cash reminds me of Chico. He just goes and goes even if he isn't comfortable. I understand your hesitation/frustration. Jingles for him and hope he feels great soon.

    Tiger, I LOVE that picture! The mare is lovely!!! I don't know much about her. Hey, I received the loaner hackamore today. Well, it arrived to our mailbox last night, but we didn't get to pick it up till today. We don't get mail at the house. (Darn mailbox bashers!) Thank you so much. Can't wait to try it. Or can't wait till DH tries it while I watch.

    Dewey, well, I till still send my jingles your way. Stay safe!!!

    VJ, I don't think you saw my posts on the Jazz/bit/hackamore dilemma, but we're testing him in different options. We did the rope halter thing, but he has too small of a head for my rope halter, and the darn thing was going into his eye, poor boy. So now I'm trying the hackamore route. (I had posted videos in an earlier post maybe over a week ago, if you're bored.) Glad to hear the boys are doing well. We missed hearing about them here.

    Meg, enjoy the time off when you can. The horses enjoy it! And thanks for the well wishes.

    Thanks, all, for your well wishes! I'll report back tomorrow. I hope for good news.
    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
    ¯ Oscar Wilde


    • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
      Just want to add that is a horse is carrying himself properly in self-carriage, he IS working his neck muscles quite a bit, and therefore it is not uncommon for them to show sweat in the neck. Just a friendly observation.
      Sorry I meant that it was cold and not sweated anywhere else. Sweat under the neck shows incorrect muscles being used from incorrect riding.
      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


      • PF- I missed that! Just saw someone was asking about bit less options. I get it! My rope halter is a bit too big for Kohl too. It fits Ricky’s big wb head lol. I hope you find something that works

        sugar- I’m sorry to hear Cash was sore but you are an amazing horse mom and you always take the best care of him. Don’t feel bad. XO. Happy to hear you guys ate doing well otherwise.

        meg- as promised here are some pics of my ponies


        • *** For anyone who needs a stall due to evacuation from Florence, Fab has a few available- Lebanon, TN***

          - jingles for the hurricane to de-escalate.

          vj- so good to hear from you. what kind of business is it?

          sugar- jingles for Cash-man.


          • PF - I loved that little mare! I had more fun with her - I could go anywhere with her - never a worry. All bitless. She was the perfect parade / trail horse. And then one winter afternoon, I took a dressage lesson and knew I'd never be the same. A week later, my then trainer put me on Dodger for my next dressage lesson, because Kerry (my little chestnut mare was having none of that dressage stuff) and my heart sang because I had loved Dodger from afar for years and never, ever thought I'd be a good enough rider to ride him. We circled the indoor twice, I came to the middle, looked at the trainer and said, "he's mine. I know he's for sale, he's mine. I'll give you a deposit tonight or tomorrow. Whatever it takes." I didn't know it at the time, but she was supposed to finalize a lease deal that afternoon with h/j rider at the barn, that she wriggled out of so I could buy him . . . I sold Kerry the next weekend to the friend of a friend who wanted a solid trail horse . . . funny how things work out . . .


            • Bitsa so many things to celebrate, lead change, bargain shadbelly, body doing as mind wants and then Bunny. You should throw a party to celebrate.

              VJ if you think you can gloss over starting an Equestrian Business you are so wrong. We need ALL the details.

              Meg I hear you with knowing one thing and doing the opposite. When Stars was very good one day I was standing at the door giving him sooooo many carrots while I was telling him how good he was, how happy I was with him and how proud of him I was.

              It hurts me to squat. I have very short Achilles tendons, but I refuse to put my knee down when putting his hoof boots on. I suffer instead.

              Tigre that is the first time I have heard how you ended up with Dodger. It is very similar to how I ended up with Vinnie and my instructor lost her Accountant over it.

              We used to have a side saddle. I rode a few horses in it but I didn't really get into it. I think Mum sold it.

              I did get home in time to work Stars as the swelling had gone down in the morning, but hubby called and said he wanted me to tack Dodge for him. I said no I am going to work Stars but when I went out it was fairly cool and then I remembered that Stars and Dodge are sharing a saddle at the moment so I tacked Dodge. He is the one losing his winter coat the most at the moment.

              I was taking him up to the arena when I saw hubby's ute. I mounted as he came in the gate. I rode while he put the ute away, changed out of his uniform and grabbed his helmet. I gave him a few instructions and then said just walk, as I didn't want him to sweat with it getting cooler and heading towards dark.

              Later that night hubby said he knows what he wants for his birthday. His birthday is on the first and they have now changed the public holiday for the Queens Birthday to October and it looks like it is on his Birthday.

              For his birthday he wants me to warm up Sim and work him before he rides him and then he wants me to warm up and work Dodge before he rides him, because there is no way Dodge is that forward for him with being ridden for that small amount of time, as he is too busy saying he can't do it and hubby believes him.

              I hopped on Sim this morning after he rode. I couldn't see the mountains to start with from the fog, but each round they came more and more into view, until I could even see the houses up there. He was a good boy. I permoxined him and hubby gave them there breakfast.

              I will let it warm up a bit before going and seeing how Stars is. I have already put some Alogard on his leg.
              It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


              • tiger- what a neat origin story of you and Dodger. I needed a feel-good story, I've been reflecting on 9/11 and I needed to get out of my head for a bit. I did see a tribute I wasn't aware of- the Great Boat Lift, narrarated by Tom Hanks. Very moving.


                • Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself to your lovely thread! I just started riding again after a fifteen year hiatus. 40 is sneaking up on me this year, and I’ve had back/neck and shoulder injuries in the past, so even getting on a horse was quite the gamble. But lo and behold, my back actually loved being in the saddle again! (My neck not so much, but Rome wasn’t built in a day.)

                  Anyway, I’m back to beginner status, but I’m in love all over again. I’m riding once a week, and trying to budget for two times a week. I’m hoping to lease in a year or so, after I’m competent again, and work, work, work to become the rider I always wanted to be.

                  I’m looking forward to chatting with you all!

                  To to those in the Southeast/Mid-Atlantic, stay safe!


                  • We're in the "cone of uncertainty" at this point. Keeping eyes and ears open. I need to pick up cat food and will buy ice tomorrow. Then we will put lawn furniture, etc., away. I'm worried about trees coming down and flooding because it has already been such a wet summer.

                    Thanks for the good thoughts and jingles. The good news is that Sky got to go out last night.

                    I did have my lesson yesterday. I rode Honey, the horse I mentioned in my previous post. He was so good, and I really enjoyed him. He's a flashy chestnut OTTB, over 20, a lovely mover, and a horse who really knows his job. He's also 16.2, so I felt kind of small on him (it seemed like a long way down), but never unsafe or precarious. After I rode him, trainer remarked, "You're still my hero." I think she said that just because at my age I'm willing to get on a new horse and jump him around. The last time she said that, I was schooling a green horse who cleared a cross rail by about 5 feet--and I stayed on. Maybe I am kind of crazy.

                    We'll see who trainer puts me on next time--if I even have a lesson. The storm may change all the riding and show plans.
                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                    • Chi- welcome, so glad you found us. What setting do you work in? I'm an OT working in Skilled Nursing. Look forward to getting to know you. We do love pictures- my avatar is my trainer's pony that I ride, Absolute Magic, aka SuperPony (Pony). I have neck issues too, that I'm not about to get fixed, so I feel you. I'm glad riding is helping your back- perhaps the motion provides the gentle stretch you need- for the same reason that horses are so helpful with people that have CP/spinabifida or have had a stroke and are non-ambulatory.

                      Dewey- continuing to jingle, I can't imagine trying to batten down the hatches. So glad you had a good lesson on Honey- I'm with your trainer- you are brave. I'm contemplating riding Straight Fire again- more than just a walk- to get over my issues with her. I always like the idea of riding someone else, then I wuss out and ride my girl instead.


                      • PF - Jingling for great news today...something along the lines of "you can start riding this week" would be amazing!!

                        VJ - What handsome boys! How has Kohl been doing? And yes, more details about this business please!

                        Tigre - Love those pictures! She has the same little star Cash does and you know I'm a sucker for redheads! What a cool story about Dodger, I also didn't know that's how you ended up with him. Wasn't he a hunter before you bought him too or something? I remember pics of you jumping him at one point?

                        Chi - Welcome!

                        Dewey - I'm thinking you're a "hero" to more than one of us on this thread, actually ! Honey sounds like a fun ride and I'm glad he took care of you. Sending more jingles your way, stay safe!

                        Lucky - I'm the same way but getting better about riding new horses. I'm okay with flatting a new horse, but add jumps to the mix and I get worried.

                        Thanks for the jingles for Cash. He's pouting being locked in his stall - he usually can go in and out from his paddock so I was met with a very grumpy face this morning Poor buddy.

                        And because we like pics...Goose has a sassy new buck/kick out move when he's resisting going forward. Dressage trainer caught it on camera yesterday

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                        And good old, stoic Cash!
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                        • Thinking of PF and sending jingles! And thinking of and jingling for all who are in the path of that nasty, nasty storm.

                          Jingling like mad, Dewey! Keep you and yours safe! Great to hear you had a good lesson on someone new. Hopefully, for a few minutes at least, your head and heart were full of horse joy instead of all the legitimate worries crowding your plate. I had a little altercation with my neighbor (I'm finally going to involve the city bylaw office about her constantly escaping, poorly socialized little bitey/barky dogs), and arrived at my barn in a tizzy (I'd literally had my arms full of stuff, walking out to the car to go see Win when I had to go help them corral one of those awful little beasts in my back yard). As soon as I walked out and saw my girl in the field, that melted away. I'm on an antidepressant that works well for me, but I'm wondering if I'd have started if I'd already had Winnie B, lol! Good medicine! I hope you're able to get some more of it.

                          Vanessa, thanks for sharing your guys! I'm a big fan of tall, dark, and handsome, and OTTBs have a special place in my heart (even before Winnie, I love their minds, their sensitivity, and I've known plenty who weren't "hot" as they are said to be). Hope the business takes off, and I'm with Suzie, more info, please!

                          Tigre, thanks for reposting. Saw it this time. I'm so floored! What an incredibly cool experience! Think about that tattoo, lol. And your Dodger is gorgeous! I love your origin story! When you know, you know, right? Winnie was a bit that way for me. Horse ownership was not even on the horizon for me, but there was no real question when Sister offered her to me. The only questions were about details. I don't believe in destiny or fate, but my skepticism trembles a little in the face of my current situation. It's like the stars have been aligning for over a year to make this happen perfectly. Even my job, which I've had for a year and a half, seems custom-made for a life full of Winnie B. And so wonderful that you were able to find such a great home so easily for your little mare. Seems like your stars aligned some for you and Dodger, too.

                          Oh Sugar, that's so difficult! To now have to wonder if he's alright or just stiffening his upper lip for you. Just thinking aloud, but is there anything you can do as far as some sort of palpating or ground exercises you can learn to really test him out more, possibly find some ouchies he's hiding from you? I don't know much about testing for soundness/soreness (apparently I kept most of the horse knowledge I thought I had in my mom's brain). Mostly I just feel Winnie's legs for heat every time I get her out, and sit the trot for the first little while to feel her gait (I can't feel a light limp at a posting trot). Good luck with move preparations!

                          *hugs* to you, Lucky, for sharing info about stalls!

                          Suzie, I definitely know better and do worse sometimes! Reminds me of being a kid, having non-horsey friends out to ride. Teaching them how to keep a hand on a rump as you pass close behind a horse, how to never lean directly in front of or behind legs, etc. And then they'd ride in the round pen and leave, and I'd be basically under my geldings belly clipping his fetlocks, haha.

                          Hi ChiNurse! Welcome! I'm a newbie, too. I started taking lessons (never really had before my mid-to-late 30's, as my mom showed a ton back in the day and was always my "coach". Wow, did I ever start to learn how much I didn't know! Accidentally got my favourite horse about a month ago (well, she left Oklahoma for Ontario a month ago, I've had her just over three weeks, but who's counting?). Good luck getting back into the swing of things!

                          Sugar, you got an out-loud giggle from me. I love how absolutely poised and in control you look at Goose is doing his Goosey BS! My sis and mom are always filming each other, and Sis is GREAT at picking stills out of the videos. I enjoy the good pics, but my favourite are the awful pics! She messaged yesterday that she invented a new release which she calls the stagecoach release. She basically lost her reins right before a jump, and the still over the fence is HILARIOUS. She also likes to critique her position ("I call this Quasimodo goes a'jumpin") in those stills. Thanks for sharing! Cash looks great, too!

                          Had my barn time yesterday. My sweet Win, who used to sort of snarkily submit to the indignity of being groomed, will now stand in the cross ties forever without much comment, or even some gentle head nodding, "Ooh, that's the spot," when I find places on her face and neck she really likes to have brushed. I have to sort of work to find things that annoy her on the ground now. Touching her tiny little horse teats can still get an ugly face, as can vigorously brushing the parts of her thighs where foam forms up near her butt. Pretty much everything else is a-okay with her now, though. Mom still can't believe that I can brush her belly with NO comment from her.

                          Mom was grumpy last week, as they were getting a lot of rain (much-needed, as always in Oklahoma, but preventing them from riding), and I was riding a lot, so she was VERY critical of my selfie game. "Your selfies are kind of shit. You could be riding a 4-wheeler for all I can tell." Wow, Mom, tough crowd! (In fairness, my sis is the QUEEN of horse selfies, so I've a lot to live up to.) We worked on our selfie game yesterday, and will try to post some pics in the next post. Mom (having gotten to ride two days now since a 5-day layoff) approves of our improvement in that department. "Definitely not riding a 4-wheeler."

                          Win rode just the best, giving us what I think may have been our second breakthrough on contact/collection/headset. We made immediate progress from the one lesson with DT a little over two weeks ago, but we'd sort of stalled out, and she was only giving me contact intermittently, with rough ewe-necked transitions. Yesterday, *poof!* she started stopping in contact with a nice roundness, would transition to canter without putting her head up and out, and she actually got behind the bit for a while. I think that will resolve quite nicely as she figures out what I want (again, I'm learning *as* I'm teaching, so I'm sure she's getting some very mixed signals; smart girl is still figuring it out). She tries so hard!

                          From yesterday's "conversation" we had in the outdoor arena as we were cantering around:
                          Win: "Oh, Mom! You want my head down between my knees? Can do!" *offers that, dropping her head way too low and getting behind the bit*
                          Me: "No, WinniePie, DarlingGirl, not down like so. Just let me touch your mouth softly, and come in not out and up when I speak up, okay?"
                          Win: "Wha...? Um...*confused head shake, readjusts* this??"
                          Me: "YASSSSSSSSSSSSS sweetness! Just like that! Good girl! Now whooooooa sweetie, whooa."
                          Win: *whoas nicely, roundly, dropping her head*
                          Me: *neckpat*goodgirl*neckpat*ohmysweetgoodgirl*neckpa t*

                          We jumped around just a little after, and I'm much more comfortable, not getting daylight between me and the saddle, and feeling confident. Then we hacked out alone for a short ride through the fields to cool off. She's such a funny thing. About halfway to the point where we turned around, she just started screaming. About thirty seconds of big whinnies (and she's not much of a talker). Yet she was moving forward, head down, ears pricked, never trying to turn around or look back at the barn. Weird feeling to be on a horse who'd verbally freaking out, but who's body language says something completely different. My weird, darling Winnie B!


                          • Sugar - yes, he was - and we actually spent a summer doing a small h/j "circuit" and winning a couple of year-end divisions while toying with the idea of doing some eventing The eventing idea was a compromise, because I had fallen in love with dressage which Dodger tolerates, while he loves to jump and I rather like. Of course, that was before I came to my senses and realized I'd probably never get him around a cross country course - can you even imagine!

                            What a cutie Goose is! Sending healing jingles for Cash.

                            Dewey - we need to find you a super woman cape - you are a hero indeed. I can't imagine riding all the different horses you do! Sending more jingles for Sky and more stay safe jingles.

                            Welcome Chi!

                            VJ welcome back!!

                            PF - jingles for good news today! Did your DH get a chance to try the hackamore yet? Anxious to hear how it went . . .


                            • Ugh, still can't seem to upload photos directly. Keeps telling me failed to create the image. Boo. I'll have to put them on google drive and link again. Will get around to it, but need to go to work before I cut into my barn time. It's Winnie Wednesday! DT has me taking a pic once a week, same day, same spot, to see how she changes, and we do that on Wednesdays since it's easy for me to remember.



                                That should link to yesterday's selfies.


                                • lucky - I hear ya on needing a feel good story. 9/11 hits me really hard every single year. I always somehow end up in tears - just a raw emotional day, no matter how you slice it. I remember my parents talking about Pearl Harbor Day, how emotional they'd get - now I get it.


                                  • Quick update. Well, not good news, but not bad news. I'm not yet off crutches. BUT I can start putting weight on my leg using the crutches. So it is a start. No running for 16 weeks (since injury). I can start using a stationary bike. I did five minutes today to get me started. Next appointment is in three weeks.
                                    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                    ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                    • Welcome ChiNurseReRider! You will likely be abbreviated to Chi. . I'm usually shortened to PF. I will look forward to learning more about you.

                                      TC, all okay?
                                      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                      ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                      • PF - Thanks for checking in! I'm just catching up after being away last week. Unfortunately I came back to Cupid having a loose shoe, which is now a missing shoe (taking a page out of Milo's playbook Trot On), so I only got to get on him at a walk for about 15 minutes.

                                        I hope everyone in the hurricane zone is doing ok. On a weather-related note, Cupid is starting to get fuzzy and the days are getting noticeably shorter. Boo!!


                                        • Sending good thoughts for everyone impacted by the Hurricane.

                                          Thanks for the welcome back all. Sorry to be vague about my new business. It's a small tack and equestrian accessory shop that I started with some awesome ladies. We only have a few products so far but lots to come. Just doing some fun jewelry, horse treats, socks, decals etc for now and slowly adding more things. We don't officially launch until October 16 but you can check out the link in my signature for our site. It is still under construction so it wont stay as it is now. It's been really fun!

                                          I had a great lesson last night that started off not so great. RB was hot haha. The weather has cooled off (yay) and he had a week off so the first 15-20 minutes were spent just getting him to settle with lots of 10, 15 & 20 meter circles with leg yielding and spiraling in and out. Once he settled thought he was perfect. We did a small gymnastic, one stride to a one to another one and slowly built it up. It was so much fun. I used to stress so much about multiple element gymnastics and I was able to hop through every time with confidence and fix any little mistakes easily. We focused on keeping the pace the same the whole time and on me being supportive with my leg and softening but not throwing my reins at him. I used to not be able to release hardly at all and then I started releasing too much for the size of the fences. I think I'm getting to a nice happy medium (hopefully).

                                          PF- Sorry to hear you are still on crutches. That must be so frustrating especially in the summer. Sending jingles for a speedier recovery

                                          Meg- Yes, my OTTB is as quiet as can be. He isn't spooky and is a really chill guy now that we dealt with his anxiety. That was a rough road for a while but I am very proud of the training I put on him and how it has changed him mentally and physically.

                                          Sugar- I am so happy to see the awesome pics of Cash and Goose. I hope poor Cash isn't too cranky about his stall rest. I saw on my brief skim that you are moving! Did you move already? Kohl is doing amazing! He is so kind and quiet that a 12 year old has been riding him in her lessons. His jump is phenomenal. I cant believe it and he is so safe to jump around. I'm excited to get him going over some bigger courses. We had to step back to basics with him so it's been a process but he is really nice and what I hoped he could be.

                                          Welcome Chi!

                                          Sorry I missed some people! Will try to get on again later