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  • Originally posted by HazelG View Post

    Quietann good luck with the upcoming show. Let us know how it goes!
    Certainly better than the May show, where she was spooky and really unfocused!

    We did two tests, Training 2 and Training 3. These are simple WTC tests... but not so simple really because the moves come really fast! Scored 60% on T3, which is the harder test, and our first time showing it. She broke during the left lead canter, so we got docked a couple points there. Got a 65.something on T2... I have video of T2, but it's really awful quality so I have not posted it anywhere. These scores put us in 5th and 4th place respectively... definitely still in the "not quite ready for prime time" category.

    (ETA: when she threatened to break from the canter in T2, I gave her a kick -- a Pony Club kick. Trainer said that was the right thing to do, but it's a little embarrassing in a dressage test!)

    The one big issue we had at this show is that my mare has decided that the other mare we trailer with is her Forever Love, and goes apesh*t when the other mare is out of her sight. Only at shows, luckily, but it's very embarrassing to have a horse that's whinnying and carrying on and bouncing around like a crazy thing because OMG her BFF is GONE! My mare is actually better behaved at shows, except for this one issue... feh. Mares!
    Last edited by quietann; Jun. 13, 2012, 09:38 AM.
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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    • Originally posted by quietann View Post
      feh. Mares!
      Maybe we need a "mare owner" support group
      "Look, I'm trying not to test the durability of the arena with my face!" (Because only GM can do that.)

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      • Originally posted by Fun Size View Post
        Maybe we need a "mare owner" support group
        To be fair, I *love* mares. Most of the horses I learned to ride on were mares, one of the best when I was a new re-rider was an old TB mare, the two who stepped in the most when mine was lame were mares, etc. When I finally went horse-shopping in 2008, I decided right off that I wanted a Morgan mare. Yes they can be ticklish or have other issues, but I just prefer them. Mine is not terribly mare-ish, though.
        You have to have experiences to gain experience.

        1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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        • Quietann, I love your link to the pics from the dressage show with captions. I laughed because my mare is super-sensitive and reactive also. She gets nervous when a pole on the ground is in a different place or someone standing along the rail takes out a camera, etc. Did you ever see this article? It sounds so much like my horse.

          http://thehairpin.com/2012/04/the-horse-explained

          That said, I like mares and wish people weren't so biased against them. Most of the horses in my life have been mares. I have had a really cranky, dangerous one (whom I described a bit in the Off-Course forum in the thread on the witchy pony) and a mare (my first pony) who was an absolute saint--the most even-tempered and forgiving equine I have ever had the honor to know. My other mares, including the one I have now, are somewhere in the middle--like most other horses.
          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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          • My first horse was a mare, who had lots of issues, among them being very marish She would whinny, flirt and buckle her knees for any guy over 16 hands! (she didn't care for the short guys, not even the pony stud). When I retired her, I swore I would NEVER have another mare. And what do I have? A chestnut pony mare.
            She's completely different from mare #1. She has all of the good qualities that people ascribe to mares, and none of the bad. She's intelligent, and brave, and commited to doing what she thinks you want her to do. She gives no visible signs when she's in heat, but she is sometimes a little cranky thne. But I can't blame her, I'm the same way when I have PMS. Fortunately, we seem to be on a similar schedule, so I can anticipate when she'll be cranky, and we just plan to do easier stuff for a day or two.

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            • So I had my first ride on Oliver last night since our trial began. he was more difficult to control and not as soft as when I first rode him...his owner sent me with her Mikmar pelham with rein converter as opposed to the regular pelham with double reins I tried him in. He was heavier on my hands in this, and I was having a hard time finding the happy medium between controlling his freight-trainness and forehand heaviness while not pissing him off or him breaking gait thinking I was stopping him. I think we'll try a regular pelham and see how we do...I think my style and not being used to him makes this Mikmar pelham too much for us as a combination. He was strong in the regular pelham, but seemed more responsive and adjustable to me.
              Blog chronicling our new eventing adventures: Riding With Scissors

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              • PH, you may have to experiment to find the right bit for the two of you. Your bit allows you to communicate with your horse, and you probably have a different "accent" and manner of speaking from the previous owner. So it's not a surprise that you may need to try a different setup. Or it may just take you time to get used to him. Big horses and ponies each bring their own special challenges, don't they?

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                • Oh, I'm not knocking mares per se, just saying they have their own challenges. The one I have actually is super sweet and not mare-ish at all. The only way we can tell she is in season is how uncomfortable she is, but she isn't cranky about it at all which suprised me.

                  With this one the good far outweighs any "mare maintenance" issues for me
                  "Look, I'm trying not to test the durability of the arena with my face!" (Because only GM can do that.)

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                  • Funsize, I figured you wouldn't describe your horse as "Super Mare" if you didn't like her.
                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                    • We're going to try the pelham tonight and see. i asked the owner, and it seems that he tends to go rounder/more dressage-y in the mikmar, lending himself to putting his head down and leaning more. So the pelham might be a better option for us as hunters.
                      Blog chronicling our new eventing adventures: Riding With Scissors

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                      • PH - Congrats! And another grey Oliver being discussed here. Good luck with the bit decision. He is a doll!!

                        Quietann - my friend is grooming this week, and just spent today with 2 hollering stable mates. I was supposed to join her, but schedule conflicts, although may still lend a hand this week or next. Haven't been to a show in awhile, and she reported that it is much more clinical, and less fun, than in "the old days".

                        This is an AA show. I had seen the same at a local show a couple of years ago. When the back-to-back rounds are a bit redundant to watch. I can remember years ago thinking, and discussing with our trainer, "well, I'm going to try to do such and so in this next round" while waiting for it to eventually get there. And often you could create a change up in how you did a course, or worked under saddle. Not so sure I'd be that thrilled to do it anymore... What do those of you who used to do it feel vs. today??

                        We had a great lesson today. Have mostly just worked on the flat, maybe with a nice quiet! walk down the road in between lessons. And some occasional ground work. B has done great cantering to the left on the longe, collected and easy going, but discombobulated to the right. So today learned how to keep him balanced so I hope he'll have his feet well under him and relaxed in both directions, and maybe we'll be trying a canter next time...? Everything seems to have been taking so agonizingly slow with this horse. But everyone says he's such a nice mover, so we're doing it right. Began practicing our first ever test, with trot thrown in instead of canter for now.

                        I've been totally H/J, having done adult eq and adult hunter "back in the day". But this instructor is talking about several fun things in the future - she does schooling shows, but what sounds like more fun is a hunter pace! (If I can keep the pace down to under 40mph! ) So who knows?

                        I screwed up, though, and didn't put boots on him, and he caught himself, so it's definitely up to the show to get some boots and other gear sooner than later, and to watch jumpers!

                        Then I'm volunteering at a nearby event next weekend.

                        Opus - had to laugh at your Smartpak excitement. I was there last fall.

                        Fun Size - hope you get some flexibility in your schedule. After all, isn't it true you can compose much better after an invigorating ride?

                        So I was really inspired to add to the forum today, after having a nice ride, and given B a nice bath on a picture perfect day. Then at home, looking at a lovely picture of a horse online, I was reminded how lucky I feel to be able to have a nice horse, too (well, there's something about looking in the eyes of all horses...), and (for now) the time to do the right thing by him, and enjoy him. Would help if the finances were more forward looking, but have always managed to come up with the next thing somehow.

                        But in the meantime, just LOVE horses, riding, and the camaraderie and good feeling within this sport/obsession/way of life.

                        Sorry for gushing, and writing another epistle. Can't help taking hold of this kind of day.

                        Edited to add: Within minutes of posting this, I received a call from my 97 year old mother's assisted living facility. She took a tumble down the outside stairs. 6 hours in the ER including an hour getting CT scans and x-rays. Mother was covered with bruises, has a goose egg on her head, a bruised tailbone, and a displaced broken left ring finger. Another life appreciating moment... But it's going to be tough on her, not only because of the residual pains, but also because my mother is pretty willful.
                        Last edited by CVPeg; Jun. 15, 2012, 09:33 AM.
                        But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. H.C.Anderson

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                        • bumknees -- your typing is so much better! That is a great sign. Try to stay positive and focus on your recovery right now. You can worry about how to handle any "ball dropping" by the doctors who saw you initially when you are stronger.

                          Opus -- I kow hwat you mean about getting excited about stuff like your very own horse's Smartpaks -- I was exactly the same way.

                          PH -- good luck with the bit experimentation.
                          Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion.... ~ Emerson

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                          • So, the weather has not exactly been cooperating lately. The rain stopped Sunday night, which meant Monday morning was 82 degrees (at 8 a.m.!) with about 98% humidity, give or take. I walked out to where my trainer was feeding, cocked my head and asked, 'Can I just, like, groom today?' That miserable.

                            And I did groom him. And I found out that while Oliver tolerates fly spray, he does not especially care to be sprayed over and over and over with coat whitener/shampoo. He let me know his irritation by scooting to the side of the washrack, backing up, then rearing a bit when he felt his head was being held by the rope. (Which was latched on by one of those odd little broken bit looking devices -- and the rope slid out just fine.) But for a second it was an 'Oh sh-!' moment.

                            But then once his head was free, and he'd made his displeasure known, he just stood there, looking at me. So, I took him back to the rack, hosed off the purple stuff and called it a day.

                            Oh -- and I will officially be Oliver's new owner on Monday. Still figuring out insurance and all of that. I think I'll get mortality for sure, but I'd like to talk with the vet the next time she's out, and get her opinion on medical/major surgery.

                            I'm both excited and a little terrified. This is normal for first-time horse ownership, right?
                            The dude abides ...

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                            • Hi everyone! I'm back! Haven't been here since page 20's I think?

                              I have to raise my hand to join the mare club. She's a crazy, sweet, fun, terrible, monster. I heart her! Most days I really do, other days I really question my sanity with her. I *know* that one day we are going to be great together (and most of the credit will be because she is so fabulous) I just need her brain to catch up with her body.

                              Recently started her on a magnesium supplement, and holy cow I think I'm seeing a difference. This is a horse that when we did the vet check, it was raining, thunder and lightning, someone firing a shot gun and windy. Didn't bat a eye. For the past 8 months she spooks at parked cars, bricks, jumps, air... So far the magnesium has made a drastic improvement, I just hope it stays this way.

                              Unfortunately, I also started a new job recently about 3 months ago and have been traveling like crazy out of town. I have 2 more trips planned, both 2 weeks long, and then I should be done with the travel. I've only been able to ride twice a week, and my trainer is picking up my slack. The good news is, I haven't fallen off in a couple months, bad news is, we have done very little jumping.

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                              • Yay for new Olivers, Opus! And I hear you on the humidity...a few days this week while riding I wanted to DIE. I felt so gross.

                                So the pelham worked better, but I only had the rein converter. i think we did better with the double reins, so I think I need to go back to that. I don't think it's fair to ride all the time partially on the curb with the converter - especially when he takes so much contact to control properly.

                                So he needs a wide saddle, and his former owner has offered to sell me her Courbette Optima saddle with SUPER nice leathers and stirrups for a grand total of $300. nice price, yeah? Well it's black. :-/ I only do schooling shows, and it could pass for super dark brown, so I am considering it. For $300 I kind of HAVE to, right? :-P The saddle seems to fit both of us well. I would pair it with a really dark brown bridle though. I have to admit, the black saddle looks good on his gray body.
                                Blog chronicling our new eventing adventures: Riding With Scissors

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                                • PH, if the saddle fits your horse and it's comfortable for you, buy it. Black tack looks nice on a gray, and observers usually don't notice the difference between black and dark brown tack anyway. Check out this thread--and notice the photos of a handsome black hunter bridle in post 19:

                                  http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum//s...d.php?t=349120
                                  I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                  • Originally posted by Opus1 View Post
                                    Oh -- and I will officially be Oliver's new owner on Monday. Still figuring out insurance and all of that. I think I'll get mortality for sure, but I'd like to talk with the vet the next time she's out, and get her opinion on medical/major surgery.

                                    I'm both excited and a little terrified. This is normal for first-time horse ownership, right?

                                    Woooooo hooooooo! Congrats, Opus!! (And it is absolutely normal for you to feel terrified. Surely you haven't forgotten my near-breakdown when I bought Sky...?)
                                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                    • Originally posted by LuvMyRide View Post
                                      Hi everyone! I'm back! Haven't been here since page 20's I think?

                                      I have to raise my hand to join the mare club. She's a crazy, sweet, fun, terrible, monster. I heart her! Most days I really do, other days I really question my sanity with her. I *know* that one day we are going to be great together (and most of the credit will be because she is so fabulous) I just need her brain to catch up with her body.

                                      Recently started her on a magnesium supplement, and holy cow I think I'm seeing a difference. This is a horse that when we did the vet check, it was raining, thunder and lightning, someone firing a shot gun and windy. Didn't bat a eye. For the past 8 months she spooks at parked cars, bricks, jumps, air... So far the magnesium has made a drastic improvement, I just hope it stays this way.

                                      Unfortunately, I also started a new job recently about 3 months ago and have been traveling like crazy out of town. I have 2 more trips planned, both 2 weeks long, and then I should be done with the travel. I've only been able to ride twice a week, and my trainer is picking up my slack. The good news is, I haven't fallen off in a couple months, bad news is, we have done very little jumping.
                                      Welcome back...and welcome to the mare club! Sounds interesting. Mine's not at all a spooker, so that is kind of nice. My gelding, we're pretty sure, saw dead people

                                      As far as super-mare...she was still funky so the vet saw her, and blocked some stuff in her front feet, and that seemed to "find" something. Since I have such recent, pristine x-rays, we're going to have it MRI'd. I'm afraid she has some soft tissue damage going on from going bat$&* in her stall while she was at the peak of that really bad "in season" season. Starting depo next week, I think. At least I have insurance to cover it! I opted for the "holy crap that's a lot of coverage" coverage. Glad I did! I'm not panicking, the MRI is more just a CYA thing to make sure it isn't something crazy, but I'm sure that just letting it heal up, getting her on some horsey depo and keeping her from "flirting" with anything that walks past her will stop her from beating herself up. So I'll just hack something else this weekend...I'm sure someone is out of town!
                                      "Look, I'm trying not to test the durability of the arena with my face!" (Because only GM can do that.)

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                                      • mare owner here. (been a while since i posted) luff her! she shows signs of brilliance occasionally and gives us clues as to what she really can do. other times, not so much.

                                        everything we've been working on with her has shown results: getting her to use her hind end.

                                        and daily workouts for me have shown results, too. i'm a much stronger rider with better eq!

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                                        • CVPeg - sorry to hear about your mom. Hope she's feeling better.

                                          Opus - how's Oliver doing? Enjoying horse ownership? I remember those excited/terrified feelings. They take awhile to fade. Still crop up every now and then.

                                          PH - black would look great on a grey - and there are some really nice black bridles you can get (and some snazzy bling browbands if you like to go that route too!). I always thought it was easier to dress up black than brown. Black is so classy!

                                          quietann - your pictures/story sounds JUST like our combined test last weekend. Many of the comments on our dressage test were "fussy." I think the judge was being kind :-P My guy was OUT OF HIS MIND for most of the show - absolutely a 180 from his usual, lazy self .... then we entered the jump arena for our round and he was like "oh, yeah, I jump." Is your mare spooky/unfocused at times at home? How do you deal with her when she gets like that?

                                          So, along the lines of my question to quietann .... having issues with my guy and his, well, "mood" I guess. I've had him for a year and he's always been lazy, sweet, willing, etc. Over the past month or so, he's gotten increasingly agitated, usually when under-saddle, though he's had "spook" moments in his stall/on the ground too, just not as frequent. I thought the issue might be bugs as he tends to violently shake he head the second the tiniest gnat lands on an ear. An ear bonnet has reduced the head-shaking. But now he's curling up, still tossing a bit, and just .... getting ready to explode at times. He's spooked more times in the past month than in the entire time I've had him. He's on overnight turnout, no changes in his hay or grain in this time. He did start really muscling up the past few months (he was really sick over the winter - bad colic) and I am having his saddle fit checked and back adjusted in the next few weeks when our chiropractor is out. I thought about type of work, but his attitude varies then as well. He can be really, really antsy on a jump day, then the next time we jump he goes around happy as clam, ears forward, wonderful pace, listening to all my aids etc. Same thing when we do dressage/flat work/trails, anything.

                                          Sorry for the vent, and maybe I should post this in Horse Health, but I thought maybe you all would have some ideas. I'm just frustrated. Feeling like I'm losing my sweet boy and I just can't figure out the problem.

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