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  • Dewey: I hope Sky heals quickly!


    As for me and the palomino Morgan... we had another jumping lesson today and it was a blast! We're still trotting over poles to one tiny crossrail at a time, but no more halting afterward; instead we stayed with the canter and cantered over another pole or three, with appropriate changes of lead through the trot. (I need more practice feeling leads; low level dressage canter work is so simple that unless your horse is a goober, you're pretty much always going to get the correct lead.) The mare was so pleased with herself. And then we went for a nice 40 minute hack, and she mostly behaved herself (she is very watchful, and occasionally tries to convince me that we are about to be eaten.)
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"


    • Dewey - sorry about Sky. The worst thing about an abcess is waiting for the damned thing to blow.

      Tarheel - color me pea green with envy! You know, of course, that you are now required to post frequent, preferably hourly, but will accept daily, updates!
      Ended up scratching from the dressage show tomorrow. Somehow I managed to pull/strain my rotator cuff on my right shoulder. Being severely right handed, you can imagine what fun simple things like putting on what make up I wear or drying my hair has been, much less saddling the 16.3 TB. However, it is much better and gets better each day out. If it doesn't tropical storm on us, I will be good to go Sunday and Monday.
      And nothing bad happened!


      • Dewey - sending good thoughts to you and Sky. Another boarder at my barn is fighting (what she hopes to be) an abscess. She's also just waiting for it to blow/trying to draw it out, but so far, no luck. Hopefully it resolves soon!

        Tarheel - I am sooooo jealous! I got to see reining at WEG and have gone to Rolex the past two years, but that's as close as I've gotten to something that big. How absolutely incredible! Take millions of pictures!

        jaslyn - feel better soon! Have you seen a doc? It's nothing that will require more extensive treatment down the line, will it? Shoulders injuries are not something I'd ever want to mess with.

        quietann - congrats on the progress! Has to feel good! I will say, though, about the canter work, that my horse (or maybe me, the rider) is JUST that goober - getting our right lead can be a bit of an adventure. And even though the left lead is pretty consistent, even then there will be a time or two when he'll throw me for a loop and pick up the right one instead. I have the opposite problem, I guess: I can feel the lead once I'm on it, but just can't always pick up the correct one initially.


        Toby and I are still struggling. We had a lesson tonight and we FLOPPED. He was really fighting me on his usual bit the other day, so I tried a new one tonight (double jointed loose ring to double jointed two-ring elevator) ... no change, even worse. His original tendency had been to travel on his forehand, head to the ground, and we had made A LOT of progress in the past few weeks in getting him to carry himself much better, getting off his forehand, and raising his poll. Well, the past few rides, he's been rooting down/on the forehand even more than before. I don't know if it's how I'm riding, if it's how MUCH he's riding (I upped his work around mid-April to increase fitness and get us geared up for low-level showing), if it's a tack fit issue (his saddle was fitted/purchased several months ago prior to him gaining weight/getting more fit), a general wellness issue (on Adequan and feeling good, testing limits?) ... UGH!!!! I hate that we're taking such a backwards step and that I have no idea how to fix it.

        Sorry, needed to vent


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          Devon is today! I'm freakin out already! Have to bathe pony in a few, holding off til the last possible second because he's a pig.

          We're all packed and ready to go, got a few people coming to help, and hoping we don't dies of heat exhaustion.. Supposed to be 87 today


          • GOOD LUCK, spacy! We're all looking forward to the pics and to hearing all about it!
            I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


            • Dreamin, I am not an expert, but I suggest going back to your other bit and sticking with it--when you ride, keep him thinking with lots of half-halts, circles, serpentines, and especially transitions. DD used to lease a horse who, while wonderful in general and very well broke, had a terrible tendency to pull through her hand. She found that when he did this, several halts and reinbacks in a row would get him off the forehand and listening, at least temporarily.
              I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


              • Jaslyn, so sorry to hear about the rotator cuff. I know how painful that can be. I had a "frozen shoulder" last year, and while it was at its worst, I couldn't even dress myself. Hang in there.
                I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                • Quietann, sounds as if you had a wonderful ride.

                  (By the way, Sky knows all about those horse-eating beasts. She sees them everywhere!)
                  I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                  • PH, keep your chin up! Trying to sell a horse is really tough now. Is there any way you can promote him locally? Put up fliers in feed stores? Ask someone to show him for you? etc?
                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                    • Thanks for all the sympathy about Sky, everyone. It's a bummer that she is lame, but I am trying not to worry. As of yesterday, her abscess had not blown, but she seemed slightly better. I appreciate all the advice and concern.

                      On the bright side, DD rode Rex again and is bubbling over about him. He is extremely cute! I rode the pony (Piper) again--I can't say I love him, but he is improving.

                      By the way, I may be up for a re-riders field trip this fall if that's what everyone wants to do. Depends on my fall schedule. I could probably do an Ocala trip almost any weekend this summer. Just throwing that out there.
                      I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                      • Hi, All - Still floating on a cloud here in upstate New York. I actually had a day yesterday where I didn't see B, but I didn't worry either! Old place was so wacky I felt obligated to check on him daily.

                        As in all places, however, not all is perfect. The path to the paddocks is filled with stone, and also spread into the beginning of each pasture. Farrier was here Monday, and although often tender footed immediately afterwards, B was really off on Wednesday. Plus his feet are dry here (well, it isn't mud everywhere! ) So I soaked his foot Thursday, figured another day off yesterday won't hurt either. Just hope he's sound, but quiet today! Trainer shows back up Tuesday and we have some practice to do! She gives homework - love that!

                        Originally posted by TarheelJD View Post
                        jaslyn - take heart. A couple of the best shows I ever had came right after some of the worst practice rides ever! Each ride is a new day, and I am sure you will do great on Saturday! Hope you are aren't too sore from your unplanned dismount.
                        This adage was always so true with me, and so many at our barn in my old showing days. Used to really worry if everything was perfect right before a show.

                        Hope today goes great!

                        Originally posted by Opus1 View Post
                        I was offered the chance to buy Oliver later this summer. And I said yes, assuming nothing goes to hell before then.
                        Congrats, Opus! He is a cutie!

                        The idea about shopping, or perhaps other?, get togethers is enticing. However, I did a lot of traveling last year when I first got off work, and now am finally opening up my own business, so will be pretty tied up.

                        However, if anyone is headed for Saratoga, I'd love to get together if anyone gets a chance. I just found out they mucked up my ticket request, so this year for reserve seating I'll have to find other sources, but there's always ways...
                        As I no longer currently own a share of a racehorse since B is retired, and my other interest is just a yearling, I may buy another small interest in one of a friend's horses - watching from the backstretch is often lovely - you get away from the crazy crowd, they even have betting windows back there, and although you're not near the finish, you can almost touch them - you can be right next to the gate for the starts of several races, or right by the rail as they return from the end of a race. When Street Sense won the Travers, we were right next to the rail when Calvin was hugging him and the whole backstretch was cheering.

                        Hope everyone has a delightful Memorial Day weekend. I'm so psyched I don't have to be anywhere, so plan on riding each day if B is ok, and also catching up on everything else!
                        But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. H.C.Anderson


                        • Tarheel, how did the vet visit go?
                          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                          • PH good luck with the shopping tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

                            Jaslyn I had a rotator cuff and frozen shoulder a few years back. Tried everything, massage therapy, physio, joint injections, the works. The thing that finally fixed it was acupuncture, and it fixed it fast too. You might want to look into it, but make sure you find someone who has done it for a long time, not just a weekend course. The person I went to had a PhD in it from China and really knew what she was doing!

                            CVPeg you might want to try some Magic Cushion or Forshners hoof packing for the dry sore feet. It has been really hot and dry here so our footing is terrible. My trainer suggested this stuff and I'm a convert.

                            Spacy the pics from Devon on your other thread are phenomenal. I hope you had a great day. The pony and your daughter looked perfect.

                            Tarheel what did the vet say about the sarcoids?


                            • Spacy, I read your other thread about Devon with great enjoyment! Congratulations on a job well done! The pics are completely adorable! The pony is gorgeous!
                              I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                              • [QUOTE=TarheelJD;6336322]Bummer about Sky, Dewey. When I first got Tajar, he had a similar problem. We thought it was either an abscess or a stone bruise. We soaked in Epsom salts a lot, and when I wrapped, the vet said to put Epsom salt gel and icthamol on the bottom of the hoof, then a piece of padding, then wrap. I guess this was intended to help draw any abcsess out of the holes in the bottom of the hoof from his shoe, rather than have it erupt at the coronet band. Nothing ever erupted, so we think it was a stone bruise after all. But just thought I would pass on the vet's recommendation for abscess treatment./QUOTE]

                                Tarheel, I think Sky may have a stone bruise as well. Nothing has erupted yet. She's much better today. I soaked and re-wrapped her foot, but she was able to walk out of her stall and graze a little without a huge limp.

                                She does have the flat feet and was shod a week before the lameness, so stepping on something may have been the culprit. I am thinking of starting her on a hoof supplement.
                                I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                                • spacy - I saw the Devon pictures. How cute! And congrats! It sounds like it had it's stressful moments, but turned out to be a good day in the end. Was DD happy with how it all went?

                                  Dewey - yes, the plan is to go back to the first bit. Halts/reinbacks have had some effectiveness, though circles/serpentines haven't been as helpful (as he roots down, he will continue to root farther as he bends resulting in major unbalancing). Instructor and I are working on pushing him forward with leg. Thanks for the suggestions though. I'll take anything at this point.

                                  Hazel - can you tell me a little bit more about Magic Cushion? I've never heard of it, but I run into similar issues like CVPeg with T as the summer months wear on the ground gets hard and dry. So far we're doing okay, but as things get drier and rockier, any information or ideas I can keep in the back of my mind in case problems DO crop up (like they did last year) would be great.

                                  Hope everyone is enjoying the holiday weekend...


                                  • jaslyn - so sorry about your injury. Yuk. Hope you are feeling better, and you'll have plenty of other show opportunities!

                                    spacytracy - we're all dying for photos and update from Devon!

                                    As for the sarcoids - my vet called a friend at Auburn vet school to discuss Tajar's case, and they decided to try a slightly different approach with the injections. The general rule is that they inject the medication under the sarcoids, which chokes off their access to growth opportunities and they die off. This method has worked for Tajar, for all but these 2 spots on the girth area. So, we know he responds well to the drug, but the method of delivery to those 2 is not working. The vets decided to try to inject the medication in the typical way, fanned out under the sarcoids, and to inject a good size dose into the actual sarcoids. We'll give this method a while to see if it works. I am definitely keeping my fingers crossed. If this doesn't work, my vet and the Auburn vet recommend cryosurgery. They do not think laser has as good of a track record as cryo at this point (although it may prove to in the future, with more experience with its use). If we have to do the cryosurgery, he'll be off about 3 weeks for recovery, and he will have scars where the sarcoids were. He'll either have no hair in those spots, or it will grow back white. But the scars are the least of my worries. I just want him to have this behind him.

                                    If this works, at some point the sarcoids will sort of "erupt" and no longer be under the skin. When that happens, he'll be off until they heal, obviously. That will likely take a couple of weeks. So, either way, at some point he is going to get a vacation!

                                    I took advantage of him being sedated from the injections to clip his ear hair, which he generally *hates*!

                                    I did not ride him today, because I did not want to aggravate the injection sites - although he did not seem tender in that area, the sarcoids were a bit swollen and I did not want to risk causing him unnecessary discomfort. I rode my old friend the packer, who belongs to my trainer. He is a great horse for me to practice on, as he really makes you use your seat. His canter is so different from my horse's canter, it is a real adjustment.

                                    Anyway, hope everyone is having a great weekend, and getting in some good rides.

                                    ETA - I have to go look at spacytracy's thread!
                                    Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion.... ~ Emerson


                                    • Dreamin all I can tell you is what my trainer said. After we jumped a lot in lessons on hard dry footing she told us all to pack our horses feet. First pick them out, put a layer of this stuff (looks and feels a bit like poultice but it isn't) in/on their feet, push it down into the frog, and then stuff some shavings in on top of it. Supposedly adds moisture back and helps heal if they're sore. Our farrier likes it too. That's all I know maybe google knows more


                                      • spacytracy - Oh my gosh, the cutest pony and child!!!!! You will treasure those pictures forever! Long after you forget all the poo! You are super mom!
                                        Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion.... ~ Emerson


                                        • Original Poster

                                          Thanks all, it was a good day, we were (and still are) exhausted!

                                          Heading upstairs for a nap!