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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • I know what you mean Greys.

    Pep was bought for $100 sight unseen. He was conformationally wrong in all aspects. No instructor would have bought him. He had a beginner rider who knew nothing and he knew nothing. He had been taught to go into the leg not away from it. He couldnt canter a circle or jump a log, so he started on the other side of the road to Sandro.

    My instructors only comment when we started with him was that I could never be accused of ruining him.

    But I loved him. I told him he was the best and he ended up with the one thing you can't buy. He had what I call 'pizzazz'. He went into that arena knowing he was the best horse there and acted like it. He didn't know how much was paid for the other horses.

    I had one jump penciller tell me we looked better each time she saw us and I hadn't practiced jumping from one competition to the next for that one.

    I will have to put the poles back in the arena and start taking my horses over them. I haven't jumped for decades now.
    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


    • Greys- Wow! What a big change. I'm excited for you and Sandro and I know you will find a great home for Conrad. You are a lovely rider and I'm sure you will fit right in. I'm sorry your former trainer is being cold. That does seem unprofessional and I really hope he comes around. Excited to hear more about the new barn and program there. Good luck and I know you will do awesome.

      I'm in a rush but had to pop in and congratulate Greys on her big news. Lessons/hacks have been going super for me. RB is really a different horse this winter than previous winters and I'm enjoying riding (as much as possible in the cold and dark). It's around -5C to -10C lately so not super cold. RB is on 24/7 turnout though so he is used to it. He's all bundled up haha. Last lesson we worked on a small course, just x-rails and it was really fun. I'm loving jumping again and excited to show in the spring. I have to get back to my SITS DVDs though. I can feel that my core is weaker than I would like it to be. I will try to catch up with you all this weekend.


      • At my conference for two days - I do not do well sitting from 8 - 5! Quick check in as I'll be driving home late tomorrow and then hitting the road early Sun. for FL! (If The snow doesn't create problems for us heading down 95.)

        Greys - not surprised in the least with your decision, it's a progression I've seen a lot over the years. I've no doubt you'll do well because, as you know, jumpers is just not about speed! Your hunter background will serve you well as finesse is really the name of the game. Sure, you can power around a jumper course at crazy speeds but a balanced horse and rider will get to the jumps in better form and have more efficient turns thus shaving off seconds. And you'll have style! DD rode hunters for years before turning to jumpers. Her dance training made her an elegant hunter rider and a stylish jumper rider. I know she's thrilled to have a horse in each world again and, I suspect you will too at some point. I'm sure Conrad will find a lovely home because he's a lovely horse. Leasing the schoolmaster is a great idea so youcan adjust to the differences and I'm confident you've chosen your new trainers with care for your future relationship with Sandro. Very best wishes on your new adventure! (I don't understand professionals being unprofessional! The horse world is really very small...... But, that's his issue, not yours.)

        Tiger - I'm sorry the holidays were difficult for you. Pole exercises are the best. Sometimes they can be more challenging than we imagine. I hope Dodger is adjusting to the cold temps and not being too silly.

        Lucky - I'm looking forward to hearing about your western dressage - it's a completely new concept to me so I hope to learn some about it as you update us.

        VJ - sounds like you're really enjoying jumping again! Kudos for not letting the cold deter you.


        • lost- right now the western dressage is in the planning stages, so if it's a go, i will for sure share as usual.

          tiger- man oh man, your guy is handsome. he has such a kind eye. I'm a sucker for that.


          • vj - I'm so glad things are coming together for you and RB! Can't wait to follow your success this upcoming show season!

            lost - Dodger has been great so far this winter. I attribute this to me learning how to sit without tension. I know most horse problems are rider problems - and boy, I'm living proof!! What a difference. That's not to say we don't have the occasional legitimate spook (loud noise, etc) but he no longer seems to see "dead people"!

            lucky - thanks! I fell in love with that eye/face. It was love at first sight. Never thought I'd own him and then a few years later - everything fell into place and voila - he was mine!

            * * * * * * *

            Too cold on Friday for S to work Dodger and we passed on my lesson yesterday - again too cold - although I did ride for a bit and worked the walk poles. Temps going up during the week, so we'll catch up then. S is going to put Dodger/me on long lines again for some extra work - can't wait. It really helps me get the right feel for what we are doing.

            "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


            • We put 2 poles in the arena. Sim trotted over beautifully. I was happy with him. Stars was more suspicious and dropped to walk over them on the lunge. I had to encourage with the whip behind and when I was on him he did stay straight but not expert yet. We will see how he goes today.

              Dodge is an old pro. He used to do jump lessons.

              He jumped to the side in canter. A real prop and jump, but stopped, not near the poles. I looked up and 3 dogs were bounding and jumping through the long grass towards next door's steers.

              I yelled at them to go home and there was a guy on a quad going up to the next house. I don't know who he was. He then called the dogs and they followed him.

              Too bad if I had already fallen off by then!

              Dodge is used to dogs from the riding school. He just wasn't expecting them there.
              It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


              • greys, my second guess was that you BOUGHT a new jumper. I was at least close, haha. But, awesome for you. I think it's a good move and it's great to learn new things. Can't wait to hear more.


                I'm still catching up with my reading, all. Hope everyone is doing well. I just got back from MI. Busy hectic week cleaning and organizing my grandmother's condo. I don't know if I mentioned it, but she is now in assisted living.

                I did, however, get a night off and my DN (niece) took me to her barn where she rides and I did get to get in a short ride on a nice Morgan. (Morgan that does H/J stuff), so that was fun.

                More later. Still getting myself back into the swing of things here!
                “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                ¯ Oscar Wilde


                • Tiger, I love all those pictures. It was fun to look at them! What a handsome boy.
                  “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                  ¯ Oscar Wilde


                  • Grays: Congrats on your decision. I too feel you are a super hunter rider and that will serve you well in jumpers... case in point: Beezie Madden! Being in N. Ca, I do not personally know your old or new trainer but BOTH of them have superb reputations. Keep us posted!

                    The East Coasters, I feel your pain with the Cold. I have been traveling quite a bit for family and for a heartbreaking funeral and we CA'ers have nothing to complain about.

                    My OTTB is having a winter of dealing with 4-trainers-in-one-indoor arena. Since the schooling ring at shows was always traumatizing... I know, let's work on that!

                    Cheers everyone, hope your holidays were peaceful.

                    Mulligan's Mom


                    • Mulligan: I feel your pain, but in the opposite realm. My trainers are at WEF until the end of March. So I'm trainerless until they get back.


                      • Well the next day, Sim was ridden and was a good boy. I untacked, permoxined him and put him away.

                        I tacked up Stars and went up. He walked over the 2 poles whilst being led. In trot he went back to walk again. I encouraged him to trot over the next time and a car pulled up at the gate to say the herd was out on the road.

                        So that was the end of that. I had to put Stars away, go down and send them up and spend the next few hours fixing the fence, then 2 hours raking grassy lucerne.

                        Yesterday hubby rode Sim who seemed to be going very softly for him.

                        I worked Stars. I led him over the poles. I let him walk over them on the lunge first. Then when I asked for trot he trotted over them without a worry. Under saddle he started the adjusting his stride. Big grin. Such big leaps in 3 days with him not even being ridden on one of them. He also was very soft to ride. Bigger grin.

                        I am about to go and get him again.

                        The horses should be back for the riding school so my lesson on Clover tonight and another in the morning.
                        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                        • Sounds like a good ride, Suzie.

                          Mulligan, I really hate crowded indoors! Good luck. I hate schooling rings at shows more than anything, though! Blech. I usually try to be the first one out there and get my schooling in before the craziness ensues.
                          “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                          ¯ Oscar Wilde


                          • Hey all, I've been reading and trying to stay caught up. Congrats, greys! It will be a super fun journey, I'm sure!

                            My SO of 3 years is moving out this week. It came out of nowhere and I'm still just in shock and so so so sad. Going to ride today, so that should help, I hope.


                            • Hi guys!

                              Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. Former trainer has resumed being absolutely lovely again. I think I just shocked the ish out of him and he needed a couple days to reset. Conrad left Monday for Thermal. He'll be there for three weeks. If he doesn't sell in the first two, I will go out there to show him in the AAs, might as well get results there as well for his record.

                              I had one ride at the new barn before leaving for New York (brr it's cold here). One of the assistants rode Sandro in the crazy indoor. He struggled at the canter with the cross traffic, but she noted how comfortable and rideable he is. When it was clear we should quit after 30 minutes, she asked if I wanted to ride her Grand Prix horse. Yeah, I think I will! Everyone was like OMG he's so lazy! Well, in hunter land, he would just be average lazy!

                              I got to flat him quietly and then jump a few jumps in front of the new trainer. She was mostly reserved, I think she was trying to figure out my holes. The main trainers will be gone all 9 weeks of Thermal, so I asked them to come up with a plan for Sandro and I and the assistants. I obviously couldn't resist doing a nice big chip (OYE!!!) but other than that I rode fine. I hadn't jumped in 4 weeks so I think they understood I was rusty. But god, it did me a ton of good to be riding and jumping.

                              Sandro is getting the best care. The grooms are each assigned 3 to 4 horses, so they know your horse very well. My groom is so sweet, we've been texting a ton. More importantly, Sandro is going to get to graze in an actual pasture with actual grass a few times a week. That's unheard of in LA. For that alone, I'm thrilled with the move.

                              So, so far so good. Thank you again for all your support and all the nice things you've said about my riding. I'm excited to learn from this group. All the assistant trainers ride beautifully and all the riders at the barn so far, are also very accomplished riders. I love the focus on flatwork and effciciency rather than cowgirling around at breakneck pace. So here's hoping everything continues to be smooth!


                              • Thanks Paradox!

                                Mulligan - there is nothing worse than a crowded winter indoor. I feel your pain!

                                NeedsAdvil - ((hugs)) to you. It has been my experience that horses ALWAYS help.

                                greys - super update - so happy for you and Sandro!!

                                * * * *

                                I've had two nice, albeit, short rides this week. Yesterday we had 60 mile/hour winds and rain (horses did not go out) and the indoor was very NOISY at times. But Dodger was really very good both days. I think he was thrilled that there were no walk poles set up yesterday!!

                                "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                                • (((((NeedsAdvil)))))

                                  Greys That is right, the speed does not get trained with. It is trained with dressage and comes later. The same with the spinning with the reining horses. It is started with just a step over. They don't train and start with the fast spinning.

                                  So I worked Stars again yesterday and nope he has never seen a pole before......ever. Horses! He even went from walk to halt. Sheesh.

                                  Clover was good. The first time she went out for a rest she was the bottom of the pecking order. This time she was about 3rd from top. It was hot even though in the dark and she was quite hot. She did go off on the incorrect lead on her bad way, however I fixed it 2 strides later.

                                  I forgot to take the market harbourer off. It is only on loose. At one stage she did go to lift her head and shook it but just dropped it again because of the reins. That is when I realised it was still on.

                                  A lesson in the outdoor at 9.30am this morning. I might just die of heat stroke! Then later doing pamphlets. I might have to wait for dark so as I don't die doing that!

                                  On Tuesday Night I did the 2 hour pamphlets in the dark. With a breeze going downhill and I will had soaked hair and clothes afterwards. I just took them off and put them straight into the washing machine.

                                  No joy with that this morning I have to wear the same clothes I rode in last night. I had the ceiling fan on all morning so they should be dry.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                  • Arrived in Wellyworld Monday after 18 hours in our little (truly) RV with 3 people, 3 dogs and a cat! Quite the adventure. Already into the thick of it. Was reunited with the ponies yesterday and rode! Yay! Actually managed a little w,t,c but my ankles were feeling it today so just mostly trotted but threw in some sitting trot to get my seat a little more secure. Already at the show grounds this morning to watch two of my boys go! Basically warm up classes but both went well. DD won't show until week 3 after so much time off but that's fine, it's a loooong season. The house is shaping up. Furniture has arrived for about 1/3 of it - it will be a work in progress for a bit. The dogs love the back yard, something new to explore. And, the weather is perfect (sorry, I had to say it!)

                                    Mulligan - I'm like PF, crowded indoors and/or schooling rings - no thank you! I'm a little better at home when I ride with people I trust and know there horses but i definitely have to asses new people before I'm comfortable.

                                    NeedsAdvil - I'm so sorry. Horses definitely can help, they always seem to understand. Sending {hugs}


                                    • Austen, have a great time at Welly and enjoy your new home!! Excited for you. Send updates when you can of all the ponies.
                                      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                      ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                      • Originally posted by lostinAusten View Post

                                        NeedsAdvil - I'm so sorry. Horses definitely can help, they always seem to understand. Sending {hugs}
                                        Thanks! The ride was mediocre but still better than sitting around feeling sorry for myself, lol. I get to see MY horse (he works for a therapeutic program) on Friday and he's the biggest love bug there is so I am excited about that. Other than that, I'm sad, shocked, and just trying to get through the days until it gets a little easier. I never saw this coming. But I know that things will get better and that there are greater things waiting for me!


                                        • NeedsAdvil, I'm so sorry! I just went back to read your post, realizing I missed something. I'm sending you "jingles". I'm glad you're able to enjoy your horse and riding. Hugs.
                                          “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                          ¯ Oscar Wilde