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  • Suzie-I am glad Bobby went peacefully. He had a great life and was loved and in the end, that is all that matters.

    Aqua and 12-Jingles for the horses. It is always something...

    Sun-I teach at a school where 95% of our students are on free/reduced lunch. In fact, we qualify as a school for free breakfast in the classroom. We have some students that are homeless and then a majority of the rest live below the poverty line. It is so sad and it makes our problems seem so insignificant in comparison.

    Bitsa-excellent job on the clinic and it sounds as if you learned a ton

    Still a ton of snow here in Colorado and more is expected on Christmas. My trainer has allowed me to come in and hack a horse when I have time and so I have been riding regularly. I hauled my two in on Sunday and they were actually quite good. They haven't seen a saddle for two weeks and they were both pretty excited to jump. I have a feeling we are in for a tough winter, so they may be doing a lot of sitting.

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    • Just popping in for a quick hello.
      SQ I am so sorry to hear about Bobby. These decisions do not come easily but the right one makes it easier to put your head down at night. Hugs

      Aqua- I rehabbed Hurdle myself also. I had no idea what I was doing but we learned together. I had taught him to ground drive and long line and we had a blast even though we spent months on the ground. It was a good education for both of us and we had fun.

      My daughter sprained her left ACL and has not ridden in 6 weeks. She actually got on the other day just to take him for a walk, they were gone for 30 minutes! Fortunately, he is a solid citizen and they can enjoy the nice weather just hacking around. I have ridden sporadically because I have been sick and my work schedule.. We have cantered a little but we are still doing it...

      I am sorry for not addressing everyone but so much has happened that I just cannot keep up!
      I hope all the horses are well as are the humans too...
      Happy Holidays to all, it is going to be 60 degrees here in New York! A far cry from last year thank god....
      Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
      Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
      "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"

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      • Originally posted by twelvebelles View Post
        Aqua , it's been awhile since I posted here because I've been doing my own rehab routine with my horse. My horse had been sound his whole life, no previous injuries, so you just never know. It's a crap shoot with horses either way. If you have insurance and / or the money I would strongly suggest you look into stem cell therapy or PRP. I did stem cell therapy on my horse's torn meniscus and it's worked wonderfully. I think it makes a difference in terms of how well the injury heals. We've made it through 6 months of stall rest with handwalking and almost 2 months now of tack walking. It goes by faster than you think. I taught my horse a lot of tricks, did a lot of groundwork, and have gone through a lot of Ace, but we are getting there.
        So good to hear from you, twelvebelles - and thanks for the words of encouragement. The term "crap shoot" sums it up painfully well! The vets haven't been optimistic that stem cell is worth it because this is a re-injury... but I'm considering it. Depends on what I decide to do in terms of rehab barn, keeping him at his current place, etc. I hate to move him far away but I'd need to have support for twice daily hand walking, cold hosing, etc. and that gets expensive really fast on the Peninsula. Congrats on making it to the 8 month mark - that's impressive!!!
        Urban Thoroughbred

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        • Suzie - Can't hurt to send more hugs and jingles! I got teary reading your last Bobby update. I'm happy to hear his last moments were peaceful.

          BITSA - Hooray for a super successful clinic! Smiled reading your recap - way to go I really like the "communicate with fingers instead of arms" tip, too - something about that clicks nicely. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

          paintjumper - So much snow! Glad you're still fitting in some rides and that the ponies have been behaving themselves

          ivy - It really helps to hear from others who have done long rehabs! I was so lucky when I was younger and while I had one horse with chronic hoof issues that required extensive and very spendy farrier work, I have never rehabbed a soft tissue injury start-to-finish. I've heard from a number of people how valuable it was to spend time on groundwork, which is good to keep in mind. I did really appreciate taking the time for that when I was first bringing Marley back into work, so hey! More of that is not so terrible

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          Not a whole lot new for us. I've let the BM know that I'm likely moving M before the end of January - now the question is where! There's a very
          Urban Thoroughbred

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          • Hello, may I join your group? I can't (well, I won't) read the last 577 pages, so I hope the title is still accurate.

            I'm just planning my return to re-riderdom. I used to ride all the time, then I moved to my little farm and stopped boarding and brought Irish (Bay TB, owned since he was a yearling) home with me. But not having anyone to ride with, and not having anyone at home to know if I'd gotten hurt suddenly found me not riding. So now I have two TBs and a mini and suddenly it's been 10 years since I've ridden regularly. And I really want to ride.

            I've recently joined a trail riding group locally (I'm in Middle TN). I can't really ride with them, since they trailer everywhere and ride throughout the TN/AL/NC area. But they've accepted me in and allowed me to come to their monthly get-togethers. They've really made me want to start riding again! My plan is to start lessons first. After a few months on school horses, I'd like a trainer that will come out to my farm and help me work with Irish. I need the school horses to get back into shape and to get my confidence up.

            Can anyone hold my hand while I make those first forays back into horsemanship?

            StG

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            • Welcome St Germain, you will find this is a great and supportive group. Your plan to get back into riding sounds very sensible!

              Suzie-- that was a beautifully sad story about Bobby. Brought tears to my eyes.

              PH and I had a pre dawn jumping lesson-- well OK just about dawn. I think I ride my best in the morning because I am just too darn tired to do anything but just RIDE. No energy to over think anything!

              PH was silly.

              He went through his trot ground poles like they were a bounce. Several times. I guess he is proud that he learned how to do a bounce-- now he is too cool for ground poles.

              When he finally decided to trot his poles, he still gave an almighty leap across the last one, like it was jump.

              We were indoors because the outdoor is a lake-- the indoor is tiny. So then we did one trot jump, and he was all..oh... boring.. a trot jump... and acted like he could hardly be bothered, but then he woke up and did a decent job. He jumps a lot different in his new saddle-- he really cracks his back and gets round.

              Silly PH. It was fun to get some jumping in-- even if it was not much of anything!
              A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli

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              • aqua, so sorry to hear about Marley! I think I'd lean toward the rehab facility. They'll be better equipped to handle things and more knowledgeable for sure. My thoughts are with you. Give him an extra carrot from me!

                Faye, great job on your no-stirrup and no-rein work! That's awesome. Love the picture.

                TC, glad you had a nice, relaxing ride. Those are fun.

                Sunflower, cute cartoon.

                12, kudos for you on your rehab work.

                BITSA, what an excellent clinic! I feel like I share a lot of your riding habits (I get stiff in elbows, and I sort of pick at my horse before a fence, etc.) Great job on getting through this and doing well and gaining even more confidence in your riding and in your pony!! P.S. any tips on "de-giraffing"? Katie starts this way, too.

                paintjStGermain, welcome! No, I don't anyone reads this entire thread. We should ask SpacyTracy to add a note to original post to say "just jump right in!" Where in Mid-TN are you? I'm in M'boro. I keep my horses at home as well. It's a love-hate thing. Love having them home, but hate riding alone all the time. But I do have a trainer that comes out to my place, so that's nice. Looking forward to getting to know you better here. Again, welcome.

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                Not a lot of riding on my end lately. Work was a little crazy and with it getting dark so soon, I can't always get a ride in. I'm on the western edge of the Central Time Zone, so by 4:30 it's getting dark. Blech.

                My last two lessons have been a tad bit challenging. I have a one-stride line set up going toward my gate in the arena, and I can't seem to get Katie through it quietly. She really wants to rush, and as she does, she sticks her head way up (the giraffe thing) and I feel like I have lost my steering wheel, so to speak. I hate that feeling. So I'm working on that. Her jumping elsewhere in the arena is great. We even do a bounce and that's fine. What I did the other day, though, is changed it to a trot-in, 4 ground poles to a X one stride to a vertical. I am going to start over on that line with trot, trot, trot, trot, jump. So just the poles at first. Then add the first jump, then when she's QUIET, add the second jump. I'll see if I can break it down and make it easy again. Crossing my fingers. I haven't ridden it yet. (It's the basic gymnastic in Jimmy Wofford's books.)

                Hope you all are having great rides and happy holidays!!!!
                My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: https://paradoxfarm.blog/

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                • ParadoxFarm - I'm just outside of M'boro in Readyville! (Between the Boro and Woodbury). The place recommended to me to start lessons is Roberson Equestrian, and Bradyville Pike. Do you have any recommendations?

                  StG

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                  • Originally posted by StGermain View Post
                    ParadoxFarm - I'm just outside of M'boro in Readyville! (Between the Boro and Woodbury). The place recommended to me to start lessons is Roberson Equestrian, and Bradyville Pike. Do you have any recommendations?

                    StG
                    Can you PM me with an email address?
                    My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: https://paradoxfarm.blog/

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                    • St G- I'm in TN too, riding my trainer's Arabian Pony near shelbyville/Deason area. Welcome to the group! Its an awesome support system.


                      I have a random question, courtesy of old Prac Horse that I inherited. When you are asking for transitions, or even a frame, the aids are seat, leg then hand. So when I engage my core, then sit deeper, is that right? Not really moving the upper body, but the dressage article didn't even mention the core or seat bones, come to think of it.

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                      • 12 Way to be an advocate for your horse and insisting on diagnostics until the injury was found, Fancypants is lucky to have you! I'm sorry you've had to deal with such a long rehab, but it sounds like there's light at the end of the tunnel.

                        Suzie Sending more hugs your way. I'm glad Bobby's final moments were peaceful and filled with love.

                        Bitsa Congrats on a great clinic! I really admire your attitude, you're so willing and open to learning, and it sounds like you took a lot away from the clinic. I'm so proud of how far you two have come!

                        PaintJ I'm in the same boat as you now as far as having to haul in for lessons. At least we haven't gotten snow yet That's awesome your trainer is letting you hack horses, you should get lots of good ride time in now! I'm sure your horses won't mind a little break over the winter, if they have to "sit" all winter!

                        Ivy I bet DD was thrilled to be back in the saddle! And good for you continuing to work on that cantering! Have a Merry Christmas!

                        Aqua Hugs to you too. I'm sure your stress level is at an all time high. It sounds like you're doing all the right things, and that rehab facility sounds incredible. Are there others in the area that are maybe not quite so fancy that would allow you to still take lessons while M is rehabbing? I feel like you're going to need some good quality riding time to stay sane while he heals.

                        St G Welcome! Yes, just jump right in, no one has the time to read the whole thread! It sounds like you have a great plan to get back in the saddle! I just moved my two horses home a couple of weeks ago and quickly realized how much harder it is to find time to ride when they're home, so I understand where you're coming from!

                        Sun Congrats on another good lesson! Always a plus when you're too tired to "overthink"

                        PF I think those lines going towards the gate are always going to be a challenge and tend to encourage rushing. Good plan to make her start with the trot poles and only add an element when she is quiet. I'm glad you've been able to squeeze in lessons between all this rain and the sun going down so early! How long are you out of commission after it rains? Does your arena drain pretty quickly?


                        I took Cash for a lesson yesterday. We did a lot of flatwork to start, my trainer said he looked stiff and was taking short, choppy strides so we did a lot of bending and circles and counterbending until he loosened up. After that, he felt fantastic! First course was good, he was strong and really taking me to the jumps but he was waiting and listening. My trainer hiked up the jumps and had us do it again and the height backed him off a little so he was snapping up his knees better, so we quit on that.

                        I've lost some of my riding fitness with this new sporadic schedule. I could feel myself pinching with my knees coming out of the turns...he likes to build coming out of the turns and when I'm weak I forget to sink into the saddle and use my core to lift him back up and instead I start pinching with my knees and my heels come up. Any tips to help with that? Ugh. Why is riding so hard? Haha.

                        If I don't pop back on here before, I hope you all have a very Merry Christmas (if you celebrate Christmas ) with your families and loved ones!

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                        • Originally posted by luckymaverick View Post
                          St G- I'm in TN too, riding my trainer's Arabian Pony near shelbyville/Deason area. Welcome to the group! Its an awesome support system.


                          I have a random question, courtesy of old Prac Horse that I inherited. When you are asking for transitions, or even a frame, the aids are seat, leg then hand. So when I engage my core, then sit deeper, is that right? Not really moving the upper body, but the dressage article didn't even mention the core or seat bones, come to think of it.
                          Hmm, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I sit deep, a nanosecond later I'll squeeze them forward as I close my fingers then instantly relax all aids.

                          So to answer your question, yes I think what you're doing is right. You make sure your core is engaged and that you are sitting deep, then add leg then hand. Sounds right to me

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                          • Sugar, my arena is built "up", so it actually drains really well. Right now I have some standing puddles, but I could actually still ride in it and be okay. There are a few places that get a bit mushy, but it's not bad. It usually is puddle-free (but still wet) after 24 hours. So it's not too bad. Especially if I just want to flat around.

                            Hope you find a schedule to get your riding feeling like it's not such a "break". You'll get all the kinks worked out!

                            I was just looking at some pictures, and brought up a picture of Chico from a few years back. It just made me miss "jumping". haha. https://www.dropbox.com/s/15fq4ao893...o%205.bmp?dl=0
                            I need to keep him going. He seems to really enjoy the work. He's a very different ride from Katie. Maybe I can take them both to the next schooling show.
                            My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: https://paradoxfarm.blog/

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                            • Chico looks like an appy I rode as a kid named Snickers. He was a neat little jumper.

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                              • Originally posted by Jenerationx View Post
                                Chico looks like an appy I rode as a kid named Snickers. He was a neat little jumper.
                                Love my Ap. (I call him a Trakaloosa, as he's half Trakehnerr)
                                My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: https://paradoxfarm.blog/

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                                • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
                                  Sugar, my arena is built "up", so it actually drains really well. Right now I have some standing puddles, but I could actually still ride in it and be okay. There are a few places that get a bit mushy, but it's not bad. It usually is puddle-free (but still wet) after 24 hours. So it's not too bad. Especially if I just want to flat around.

                                  Hope you find a schedule to get your riding feeling like it's not such a "break". You'll get all the kinks worked out!

                                  I was just looking at some pictures, and brought up a picture of Chico from a few years back. It just made me miss "jumping". haha. https://www.dropbox.com/s/15fq4ao893...o%205.bmp?dl=0
                                  I need to keep him going. He seems to really enjoy the work. He's a very different ride from Katie. Maybe I can take them both to the next schooling show.
                                  Wow! I love that picture! Your position looks great and he is jumping so well! I'm sure he would love going to another show, I like the idea of keeping the older guys in work instead of letting them sit. I think it's so much better for them (as long as their bodies can handle the work!) and keeps them happier!

                                  You've got to love having that arena! How nice that it's "ridable" on so soon after it rains! I know once we put in the arena I'll be able to ride all the time, it's just frustrating now that I have to haul out in order to ride. And I don't know about you, but I get super grumpy if I have to go longer than 3 days without riding! My poor DH basically throws me on a horse when I get to that point ! But, like you said, we will work out the kinks and get into a routine one of these days Thanks for the tips, I'll have to remember to have them build up the arena like crazy so we have good drainage!

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                                  • Merry Christmas, everyone. Sorry I haven't said much lately; I'm reading but have been really busy getting ready for the holiday.

                                    (Suzie, a special hug for you. I cried when I read about Bobby.)
                                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                    • StG: welcome! sometimes its hard to keep up after only missing a few days. I think you're return to riding plan sounds great too. I took 25 years off! You'll be surprised at how easily some things come back and how hard others are. Give yourself time

                                      PF: the best way for me to get the giraffe in check is to relax Greta and get her on the bit. I start with lots of circles and figure 8's on a loose rein at the trot and then try to relax her. I learned (to me) a new thing to help get her on the bit in a posting trot: fixed outside rein and on the down of the post inside leg and a squeeze of the inside rein (just opening and closing fingers). And a lot more half halt and then allow. And making sure I raise my hands when she raises hers and drive it down with leg. It's a work in progress for me, but it's helping. Wow!!! Love that picture of Chico AND you, look at your folding!

                                      Happy holidays everyone!!!

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                                      • ACK....storms! Tornado warning. Rotation (but no touch downs) heading my way. Think good thoughts!! I've got my two dogs and two cats in the living room with me. If Katie and Chico would fit, I'd have them in, too, haha.

                                        Batten down the hatches all of you that are getting storms!!
                                        My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: https://paradoxfarm.blog/

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                                        • Paradox- if you ever decided to let them in the house, please take a picture Be safe!! Your picture, btw, omg... your position is SO PRETTY!!!

                                          Bitsa: Thanks for sharing that giraffe neck remedy with PF.

                                          Sugar: I've lost some of my riding fitness due to the horrible weather. I noticed that i get leg sore after lessons again. I know we need the rain, but I'm really sick of this.

                                          Aqua: Hang in there! I hope you get the rehab situation figure out!

                                          StG: Welcome!! THis group is full of encouragement and wisdom!

                                          Suzie: I shed a little tear for Bobby, but i know he was loved and I'm relieved he passed peacefully.


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                                          Toffee and I had a flat lesson today. I remembered not to give my leg aids too loud, as I do not want him to give me the middle finger again. His left lead canter is very weak, so he's motorcycling in a lot on the left lead. We worked on strong inside leg to bend him and balance him. Other than that, our lesson was very good, concentrating on making our circles circle, not square.

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