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    Greys - Sorry it didn't go quite as well as we all hoped, but it was a good learning experience for Bravo.
    I have remind myself for Cupid's first show to do the right thing for him even if it means losing points. (I'm pretty competitive ... don't want to lose to those little kids on ponies!!) Think long game!
    I don't think we're expecting rain up here, but the temp has drop about 15 degrees.


      One more tiny point, I actually got some amazing news that this group in particular would appreciate. MY trainer was in Europe shopping for horses and he went to the place where I got Bravo. Good news 1) they found a horse for a client.

      But way better news 2) my trainer was talking to the owner and saying, yes, I love Bravo so much, I'm really glad J brought him, she was having some trouble, I think she got bucked off a few times, etc.

      Well it turns out that the person I bought Bravo from, a 25 year old German phenom, who has already ridden in the hamburg derby on a homebred and home trained 8 year old, was ALSO bucked off MORE THAN ONCE by Bravo.

      For reference, here's a video of the Hamburg Derby though with a different rider

      This was basically the MOST comforting news I've ever gotten! I nearly fell off Bravo when he told me.


        Faye Bobby is such a saint and way to stay on and push through! I never liked the bareback classes, probably because I never liked how hard I had to work to stay on haha. Especially on a horse who's gaits and body type was not bareback friendly.

        Yup, only 2 horses who could possibly jump starting next year. It seems like it's more up to the rider than in the plans. It's strange because they have a hunter/ jumper trainer, but no horses who can even fill that role. The show barn works with our school so you would think they'd have a little more flexibility. They don't have a trial period, just an evaluation lesson which you have to pay for. I think I'm going to talk to their trainer and hope that they have a little mercy. If not I can always start riding next year, which is such a long time, but may be my only choice.

        Aqua I'd have to take an evaluation ride and see how that goes first, but it seems like I'll be forced to make a decision after that. At least I know I'll be getting what I pay for in the end, it's just paying for it. I'd rather save for the rest of the year, so it's no issue next year, than spend my entire month's paycheck in one setting.

        Austen I am in school! We do have a team, but it's about the same cost you would pay outside of being with the team. Plus it's a pretty good drive away from campus. The show barn actually teaches our equestrian P.E. class. I could possibly see if they'll bend the rules seeing as they work so closely with our university. Also, I'm sure I'm not the only student who would ride there

        greys Silly Bravo swapping his lead, but sometimes it's about other victories being won than winning the actual class. I'm sure he'll come back and show them all up! Yes, it does feel like an eternity! But I feel more comfortable saving the money and not spending it on a sticky situation.

        Sunflower Your horse sounds like a dream. Really have to give props to you for working hard on getting him to a place where he doesn't have to worry about if his body can do it, it's just getting the concept down (which he seems to have no problem with). You both are going to be great!

        I still haven't decided if I want to go back to the barn to try the 2 horses on Friday. The more I think about it, I honestly don't think it will be a good fit. Although I am not a new rider, I am not looking to bring up a horse back from being a pasture ornament at the moment. Barns around here are so hard because they are professional. So in order to take lessons, you need your own horse. So what you're stuck with is paying a lot of money for a run down place and horses or having these complex situations at nice facilities that do both. I'm going to ask some friends, see what they know, but it's looking it may be early 2016 before I can be back in the saddle again *sigh*. I guess I will be living through yall for awhile longer!


          AustenFaye - I spent so many hours as a kid pulling manes! My first horse had a very thick mane and was, of course, an extremely temperamental chestnut mare, so pulling was always an adventure. When it's done correctly and quickly I really don't believe it's super painful for most horses, but technique makes a big difference. I also do it only in short sessions to avoid the horses getting cranky. More importantly - huge congrats on the schooling show!!!!

          TheBrownHorse - Welcome! Shorty is gorgeous - and you guys look great together. Congrats on finding a situation you are excited about - can't wait to hear more

          Sun - Go PH! What a good boy. I'm proud of him, too!

          PF - So interesting about Katie and her jumping. M is rather short-backed as well, so interested how things go when we get his feet straightened out and start jumping regularly again.

          TC - Boot camp! Intense! So glad it went well and that you and Cupid are feeling confident. I continue to be so excited for you both and know Cupid will be great!

          Greys - Hi! Been thinking lots about you and Bravo. So sorry to hear that the show didn't go more smoothly, but I'm glad you are able to focus on some of the more positive elements of the show. I have to say, I'm still so impressed at all he's accomplished - these big shows are intense! I can't really wish against rain given how very dry things are out here, but here's hoping it holds out long enough for you to fit in some horsey time. Good vibes for the eye procedure! And of course any time you find yourself in SF you are welcome to visit


          Happily farrier was able to come out and got things fixed up. Now of course I'm concerned that he'll be even more unevenly trimmed up front than he was before, but at least he has all of his shoes on. Plan to lunge him tonight and if he is moving well hop on for a ride. As TC said, I don't think we've actually gotten rain up here, but it feels like fall (at least for today). Very chilly, foggy, windy. Horses will be flying, I'm sure!
          Urban Thoroughbred


            Faye I ordered the ThinLine bareback pad, it's more expensive than regular old bareback pads, but I figured with Cash's back he needs something that will offer more shock absorption! I agree - when they are naked, they are so darn slippery! Did you get to use a bareback pad at the show?

            PF Oh, how I wish this weather would stick around for good! We also had brisk weather this weekend, but back into the upper 80's this week. I'm ready for fall! I'm glad you had a good lesson and figured out Katie's overtracking problem. I think you're right, she probably would do better with solid ground lines...I'll be interested to hear how she schools on Friday with boxes under the jumps! If she's better, maybe you can pick up some barrels somewhere and use them as fill? Or talk DH into building you some boxes

            TC Sounds like Cupid was great during boot camp! That's one of the thing I love about those OTTBs, they are always pretty happy to work. And good for you for tackling those barrels, proud of you! I'm glad your boss is being so supportive and giving you that Friday off! Remind me when the show is again? Next weekend? I gave Cash the weekend off, but he is doing a little better already. The last time he was on those meds it took about a week to kick in, and then he was like a new man! Thanks for asking

            Greys I'm sorry Bravo didn't win it, but like you said, it sounds like overall he had a wonderful show - grass ring, hot out, feeding time, etc! And you KNOW he will no doubt win plenty of big classes throughout his career...this is only the beginning It is weird about the swap though, I wonder what that was about? And I can totally feel your pain on the late change...some of Cash's best trips have ended with a late change landing off the last fence UGH, heartbreaking! Too funny about his previous owner, that's got to make you feel so much better haha! Is the new horse your trainer found related to Bravo? Thank you for the kind words regarding Cash! I'm staying hopeful that the meds will work, he had such a great response to them last time so I'm crossing my fingers!

            Dewey I'm sorry work has been so crazy and especially sorry to hear about Sky! Last time she was off wasn't it because her foot under the pad was too soft? Is that what could be going on again? I really hope it's not something more serious I'll be sending jingles your way! Yes, the KS diagnosis was the last thing I wanted it to be, but I suppose the bright side is it isn't a severe case and hopefully the drugs will keep it manageable. Thank you for the kind words!


              Sun- how old is PH? I've never put changes on a horse, I did however ride two auto change horses that had a button that was WAY to easy to push. Of course at that time I didn't know what auto anything was Money man, my old hunter, landed correct and I never realized how awesome that was.

              Shoulder- what kind of dress code would break the bank? Do polo shirts and breeches not cut it?

              Congrats on all the good show results!!

              Welcome brown, your horse is quite lovely with a fabulous eye. He looks kind.


                Hi Everyone. I have been reading your posts, but at 4:30 am, don't have time to reply.
                Here is an update. Medal Finals is this week. With the VS thing, we are having to move in a day earlier than planned. I am sort of excited as I started qualifying for a medal final when I was 23, but had to stop when I got pregnant. So, at 52 actually going to compete in one. It is crazy busy as I have two high school games this week and have to attend a teacher training Friday morning before I head over to the show grounds.
                I hope everyone has a fabulous week and gets to ride.


                  My stalls, tack room, and wash rack just arrived on a big semi-truck! I will be spending the rest of the day watching them build my barn

                  And Faye, the bobcats are gone lol!

                  I'll get plenty more pics later...but this is the front

                  I was happy to see they kept the windows in the back of the stalls when I added dutch doors to the back. Now there is a door AND a window in the back, should be super bright!


                    @two_dark_bays on Instagram


                      Ahhh Sugar! So exciting. I can't wait to see more pics!
                      @two_dark_bays on Instagram


                        Vanessa - Hooray new saddle! Huge jingles that it fits and you and RB are both happy with it. And yes, too funny about plastic bags. I had one with carrots in it last night and you could see the conflict in M's little brain - "There are TREATS inside the MONSTER THING. WHAT DO I DO??" Of course treats won in the end

                        Sugar - AHHHHH BARN!!!! It's adorable! I can't wait to see more pics . So excited for you!

                        paintjumper - Medal Finals! Exciting!! Big vibes for a wonderful show!


                        I think moving day for M is next Tuesday. That snuck up fast Excited to get him settled into the new place, though.

                        Made it to the barn last night. M has some swelling above his LF fetlock. I am reeeeeeally hoping it is due to the small scrape he gave himself on the front of his cannon bone (he does have a tendency to puff up from pretty superficial nicks and scrapes) and not some kind of strain from hobbling around on that twisted shoe yesterday. We just lunged because I wanted to see how he was moving - and he was completely full of it! He's a pretty mellow dude so sometimes needs to be reminded that there is a gear above "jog", particularly on the lunge, but he looked great. Moved really well, and we did some work with the Vienna reins - that topline is coming along! Leg looked better after exercise, but cold hosed and wrapped just in case. Ohhhhh ponies .
                        Urban Thoroughbred


                          ShoulderIn: yes, bobby is me saint

                          Sugar: no pads were allowed, hence my little panic. I don't know why, with the pad, I can canter no problem, but without it? No. Just no.
                          And yes!!! BARN is here!!!

                          Greys: I'm sorry bravo didn't do as well as you had hope for but hey, the experience is priceless!! How was the wedding?

                          Vanessa Jean- video sent!! Yes I have my own saddle. It's the Pessoa Legacy
                          Last edited by Faye; Sep. 15, 2015, 05:02 PM.


                            Wooooo hoooo Sugar! The barn is here!

                            So exciting! I always wanted a barn like that--I'm living through you!

                            By the way, how is your friend doing? I was so happy to hear that she is out of the woods.
                            I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                              VJ--congrats on the new saddle! Huge jingles that it fits. Can't wait to hear how you like it!

                              More later. I know there are a lot of people I missed. I have to get back to work!!
                              I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                                Paint- Good luck at Medal finals. That is so exciting!!

                                Aqua- I tried to do some desensitizing to RB with plastic bags and he went ballistic so I gave up. Might try again this winter when I can't ride as much. He loves the Mrs Pastures bags though Hope M's leg is de puffed by now.

                                Faye- You looked great in your video! The mare looks super fun. That's so cool you have your own saddle. I remember suffering in schoolie saddles so must be nice to have one you like and fits you! Do you find it fits a wide variety of horses? I'm trying to keep a running list of saddles to try if the CWD doesn't work out for me.

                                Thanks all for the jingles. I am really nervous about it. I'm not sure exactly when it will arrive. The tracking says Tuesday but I'm hoping Friday. I had a good ride on RB last night. He was still a bit funny to the right but better than he was on the weekend. He will have today off so hopefully he's back to himself Thursday for my lesson. He can be stiff right but had been so much better since we switched saddles. Will have to just see I guess.
                                @two_dark_bays on Instagram


                                  Vanessa: Thank you!! She is loads of fun with a little motor! Yeah, my barn charges $35/month for tack rental if you don't have your own stuff, so I figured i can get one and sell when needed to. Our barn is also SUPER run down, no horse has their own saddle and all of them are so used that it's unbearabe to look at. Mine is pretty good to fit most schoolies that I ride (exchangeable gullet, mine is set on Med), i've used it on bobby for a year and he hasn't has any soreness issue (he did at the beginning when he was just coming back from work), but now he's happy go lucky.

                                  Took the boys out to trail ride today and only one spook. He spooked at the poops on the ground. Seriously??


                                    Sugar - so glad to hear your barn has finally arrived! I didn't realize how prefab it was. Should be complete in no time! We want finished pictures, of course.

                                    Faye - riding bareback after someone applied Show Sheen I only ever use it to help detangle tails. That stuff is slick! Good for you for staying on. And Yay!, ribbons in the other classes. Sounds like it was a (mostly) fun day.

                                    VJ - I hope the saddle arrives quickly and safely and that it FITS! You and RB are making such progress, it will be nice to have the right saddle to complete the equation.

                                    Aqua - I hope Marley's swelling disapated and all is well on that front. I've known horses who every once in a while think longeing is a form of turnout and really get silly! Nice you got some good work done too.

                                    Paint jumper - good luck at your finals. I think it will be a piece of cake compared to all going on at work/coaching. Have fun!

                                    Greys - Sounds like Bravo just had a few green moments. I know it's disappointing but, he's still learning. I'm guessing he's a fairly sensitive boy, could have been just a moment too long of leg contact that caused the swap. He'll figure it out. (FWIW, I've heard Jimmy Torano say as a judge a slick swap is the lesser of evils - a late change or rub of a rail he considered worse...)

                                    Had a lovely ride yesterday and a nice lesson today. The weather is finally cooperating although the Baker sheets and blankets are on the stall doors.....


                                      Hi! I finally have a minute to post.. I did ride the last two days. On Tuesday not so good.. The walk work and trot were okay but my canter was very tense. But yesterday my canter was fine! (note big smile on my face!) I have convinced my self just to do it even if it is only twice around the circle..
                                      My trainer comes back from vacation this weekend, I have not had a lesson since before I went on vacation in August.. YIKES!
                                      I hope everyone is well and happily riding...
                                      Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
                                      Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
                                      "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"


                                        Aqua Is Marley's leg better today?

                                        Dewey My friend is doing amazingly well! She got moved to the rehab hospital yesterday, but she is able to speak now and from what they've evaluated, they think she is "all there" mentally! Her doctors are absolutely blown away by her progress! I think these COTH jingles certainly helped

                                        VJ Hope you have a great lesson today!

                                        Faye Hahaha, I love the silly spooks like that! Poop and hay bales usually spook Cash...silly horses.

                                        Lost Yep, barn is already up! It was pretty incredible to see it all come together in two days. Now time for all of the finishing touches Is your barn all finished? It was looking great last time you shared pics!

                                        Ivy Great job on cantering! You have a great attitude about it, just keep doing a circle or two a day until you feel completely relaxed!

                                        Here are some more barn progress pictures! I will be busy staining all of the doors in the next week, then we can put up siding, the ceiling, finish the inside of the tack room, get electric and plumbing, and all that other fun stuff!

                                        Front of barn:

                                        Wash stall and tack room:

                                        Wash stall:

                                        Tack room:


                                        Back of barn:


                                          Sugar - OMG the barn looks AMAZING!!! I'm so excited for you! I'm sure you've told us but my memory is failing me... do you have a target date for moving horses in???

                                          Faye - Those poop piles can be terrifying, don't you know?

                                          Austen - Glad you've gotten in some good rides! And yes, I've worked with some horses who think the lunge line is an opportunity to scream around at top speed. I don't lunge a lot but think it can be a great tool and definitely work hard to train that "YAHOO!" out of them. M is usually very well behaved on the lunge at the walk and trot.... if we do canter work, that first canter depart is often somewhat dramatic

                                          Ivy - Hooray for good rides!

                                          Vanessa - Hope the saddle comes sooner rather than later it can be so hard to wait for things like that!


                                          M's leg seems better, I think. I have a tendency to obsess and have officially reached the point where I think I'm staring at it so hard that I'm seeing things, if you know what I mean I had another boarder look at it with me last night, and she thought it looked fine, definitely no heat. We're still taking it easy and icing just to be safe. Here's M, wondering why we aren't doing more interesting things One or two more days of easy going, and then back to work assuming it still looks good.
                                          Urban Thoroughbred