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    PF - Way behind but still sending jingles for your niece! So glad to hear that she's on the mend.

    Dewey - Sending good thoughts your way as well.

    TC - Hooray for a great lesson! Glad to hear you and Cupid are continuing to build each others' confidence. He just sounds like such a wonderful guy. So exciting about the schooling show!

    Sugar - Heat, ugh! I can totally relate. Stay cool, and hope Cash enjoys his mini vacation with fan

    I was not a part of this group when Classy was active, but I read her post and looked at a few pictures she shared. What a lovely bond she had with Gabriel. Thoughts are with her!

    Greys - Laughing out loud at your talking about "jingles" at work. I can only imagine too funny. Their loss for not understanding the wonderful world of the internet! Hope you have some great rides this weekend. Aw, your mom! So very glad she's not seriously injured, and it sounds as though she took the fall super well, all things considered. Good healing vibes that she'll be popping over fences again in no time, and happy she's going to get a vest!

    Suzie - I really enjoy the descriptions you share about Bobby and Sim's personalities. Bobby seems like such a chill, mature guy - even more impressive given how young he is. Good boy, even with the gale and various large pieces of machinery banging about!

    Austen - Hope the lesson goes well and your back feels strong!

    ivy - Hooray for a good long ride! Keep working on that canter - ours is also something of a struggle right now, but I keep reminding myself that it won't get better if we don't work on it

    Vanessa - I don't have much experience with CWD, beyond the fact that M was being ridden in one at his last barn and it made him super sore. I know a lot of people love them, though, and I think that one just didn't fit! I'll +1 ivy's Black Country recommendation as something you may want to explore - I just got one and love love love it. M goes beautifully in it, and I feel that the quality and value is exceptional. I worked with Jay at Trumbull and she was incredibly helpful in figuring out what would work best for M's shape. I had some trepidation about fitting long-distance but I would do it again (and probably will when I scrape together the $$$ for a dressage saddle ).

    Urban Thoroughbred


      Thanks everyone for the kind words about my mom, she's very much on the mend and feeling like riding next week. Phew!

      Lost Bravo's showing in the $25K west coast pre-green championships at the Oaks. I'm mega anxious about it, but also cannot wait. Trainer says he has been splendid and bc both my trainer and I were traveling, he hasn't gotten a lot jumping, which I think is good.

      Now I'm trying to decide if we enter in the $25K amateur/child classic at Del Mar in October! I'm excited bc right now, we are sitting 4th in the PCHA 18-35 amateur section, so we would get to go late in the class (they run it in reverse order of points). AND they award money individually by round, so $10K round 1 on saturday and 10k on sunday with the last 5k to the top placing overall. Given how we are a little, let's say, inconsistent in our brilliance, this makes it more appealing to go for it. I'm really on the fence.

      Oh man, Suzie talking training methods is completely dangerous, it's worse than discussing Donald Trump at this point (note, I'm not opening that can of worms ). I continue to believe no one method works for all horses and that there are many ways to connect with our animals!

      Tiger ahhh I understand now, sometimes my reading comprehension is really lacking. I'm always bamboozled by both cyclists and riders who insist on being side by side while the whole world whirls around them. Do they not notice? Is there peripheral vision and sense of decency on the fritz? Glad you managed to have a good ride all the same and it hurts a little to read that you can't share things with less-than-d-T.

      Wow Aqua M is really a saint. It sounds like you guys are getting such a nice bond together. But I'm glad you've found something that's a better fit for what you need. Even better that your existing BM was so professional. That just makes me feel a tiny bit better about the world. When people you know, do their jobs and act responsibly. There's been so much craziness and negativity floating around lately.

      Guys! Does anyone know if there is some kind of rehab or support group for bridle addicts? I need that group. I admit it here publicly (anonymously of course): I'm a bridle addict. My husband is kind of thrilled bc this gives him an excuse to buy more art, which is his passion. HELP!!


        Thanks for the healing vibes for DN, all! She's feeling much better.

        TC, sounds like you really did have a great lesson! Great job. Barrels can be scary. At least they were for me the first few times I did them. I hope you get to show! If not, even schooling will be invaluable. I plan to do the same thing in October with Katie.

        Sugar, we're dealing with the same dang heatwave. ACK. I was enjoying the slightly cooler weather a week or so ago. Now back to the 90s and muggy. Blech.

        As far as the barrels, I think it's that they just look so darn solid.

        greys, thanks for the kind words. I'll report down below on the ponies. Thanks for asking. I am sorry your mom fell. I bet your feel anxious about that. I'm glad it wasn't serious. Give her our RR COTH jingles! And good job getting her to agree to a vest. I still wear mine when I'm feeling less than great. No harm in that! Good luck next week at the show!!! And don't berate yourself if you can find your distance two strides out. That's about a stride better than me these days, haha.

        Suzie, don't you love when the horses react to outside distractions with, well, nothing? Whenever I ride Katie, it seems, DH finds something loud to do, or distracting. But I know he's just wanting to be outside and able to somewhat watch me, so I can't complain. But the other day I was riding her, and he was in the arena with shovels and a pick thingy, digging in the all-weather footing (sort of gravelly, less sandy). And it was hard as a rock, so it was making some good noise. (he was filling in where it was eroding). But Katie's ears sure were perked toward that, but honestly, she was very good. Probably makes me more nervous THINKING something might happen than actually does.

        Austen, glad you got some golf in! If your back can hold up to that, maybe you'll be just fine for riding! Fingers crossed.

        ivy, glad you had a good ride!

        Tiger, Glad you had a nice ride, too. And I have no idea why people can be so clueless when riding. Sigh. Move over, or get out! haha. Glad they clinic is a go. And have fun with the flyer! I like to do those for my St. Jude ride. I like to try being artistic when I have time.

        aqua, Sounds like M is progressing nicely! I think even my stoic ponies might have a second look at a coyote. And I think you will enjoy the move. You did it the exact way you should, and your BM reacted exactly as she should have. So good!!! And yes, you can always go back.

        What "model" and size of Myler are you looking for? I will check the consignment shop next time I go, which will be maybe on the 15th or so.


        Well, I have been riding my ponies, though nothing big going on. I didn't have a lesson this week, because I wanted to be sure my back could take the hour riding. But I did ride Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and I was fine. I'll also ride tonight. Took yesterday off to head to the gym, which I need more of, too! I was going to ride Chico on Wednesday, but his eye was a tad bit squinty, so flushed it out, and tacked up Katie. She was good. Very forward, which is sometimes not the case! But she was still good. She's still a bit stiff cantering to the right, but it doesn't feel terrible. I haven't jumped her since my last lesson on her. Plus, the arena footing is getting harder again. We need a little more rain to soften it back up. I do drag it, but it's still harder than I like right now. But all in all, both horses are doing well. I'm back to swapping. I need to talk DH into riding more than once a week!

        Have a great weekend, all!!!!
        My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


          greys, those classes sound great! Keep us posted on what you decide. That's exciting! Oh, and my passion is saddle pads, which is just as bad, yet not as costly! haha. I can be of absolutely no help to you.
          My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


            LOL that was exactly what I was trying to tell her. Take the good from everyone you meet. So take the good things from Monty Roberts but don't stop there. There is a lot more out there.

            I can still not get over the differences in competing and training with trainer's that you all speak about and the prize money OMG.

            That is unheard of in my circles. I never won any when I was winning. The closest I came was I won a bag of feed once!

            We went to the Beaudesert Show last night. We went after work and the Salvos so I didn't get to see much and missed the circus and the Showjumping ....... but .....

            We were walking and I spied an Ariat tent. I said to hubby that would be nice but too high end for us. He said they are really expensive aren't they? And I said yes.

            We came to a stop at the same time at a table that said SHOW SPECIAL Riding boots $35.00.

            The first pair fitted so the lesson on Sunday I will be able to have a lesson without a hole across the ball of my right foot! ... and no they are not Ariats but at that price who cares!

            I rode Bobby in the arena. I went in differant places and did 15 m circles as the ground was too hard from the 3 lots of rain. He was good.

            Sim refused to trot. So listening to him I opened the gate and took him put of the arena. He trotted easily up a slope and I said canter and he easily cantered. It was lovely. I was wary as the reason we put the arena in was because of rocks and the more I rode up there on Andy the more rocks came up but I decided to trot him up again so as he doesn't think that we always canter up there. Right at the end he did canter. I laughed and said no boy trot and he did, but we do need to get Sim out of the arena a bit more.

            So I am going to rake this morning while hubby is at work. It will be my first time.

            I will also feed out roundbales to the herd today and check the electric fence and I have a mandarins and orange tree to plant. We will work the horses this afternoon when hubby is home.

            It hasn't been the week I wanted working up to the next lesson. Ah well Suzie Q just go with the flow. Perfection isn't 100% of the time.

            I took a photo of a few of the jumps from the ring last night. Just to show you the difference.

            It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


              I did it.

              A girl and her tractor can do anything!

              I did it better than hubby if I do say so myself. He forgets that I have over a decade of experience driving the bigger tractors and equipment. I can get within 2 mm of the boards and not touch them. I know he didn't because of the mature grass and weeds. Now to go and feed round bales out to the herd.

              It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                pf- very glad your niece is on the mend! What consignment shop do you go to? I need to consign lots of random things, most notably a replica McLellan I have two saddles and no horse


                  Lucky..there is a somewhat new shop called Tennessee Tack Exchange over near Cool Springs in the Brentwood/Franklin area. It's on Moores Lane. I've sold some things there already. The owner's name is Carrie. She's nice. Do a Google search...she only has a FB page.
                  My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                    Cupid-- hooray for wonderful jumping lessons! It sounds like you and Cupid did wonderfully! And having a schooling show to look forward to also sounds delightful. Schooling cross country sounds fun-- and takes being brave! both horse and rider! I agree with greyfordays that Cupid is terribly tempting to want to smuggle away! Grey, hope that your mom is doing OK, that your work load lightens and you get some horse time in!

                    Austen, glad to hear your back is on the mend!

                    Ivy, glad you enjoyed your ride and hope that the morning after was not as bad as you feared!

                    Tiger-- I agree, that side by side on the rail thing is so annoying, when the arena has to be shared. I think people just do not think... but social time can be outside the arena, not in it, especially if others are there! Hope you are able to sort your trainer issues!

                    Aqua-- sounds like M is quite the character. Your description of the coyotes all around gave me the shivers-- I remember as a kid hearing them howl at night around the barn where I kept my horse and it was always so eerie. Sounds like you have found a really nice barn--- the trade off in travel time sounds well worth it.

                    Suzie-- your stories of the tractor adventures were great-- had me laughing out loud! That looks like smooth chocolate icing-- good enough to eat!

                    PH and I had a jumping lesson. We did a long slow warm up today-- yesterday worked in the dressage saddle, today back to the close contact. He was sooooo good!!! I know in the scheme of things it is a little thing, but to us, it was a big thing-- he did his first mini course today! He cantered around totally calm and focused, listened to me ( and went into his corners, he is very adamant about doing this) and was sooooo fun!!!! He is starting to round, even over these little fences, and he so likes to jump! I am thrilled. He goes if I keep my leg on-- and I was able to keep my mind in a sort of blank Zen meditative mode, feeling the ride rather than thinking it, and it all came together nicely! That will keep me happy for days-- the buzz of a good ride like that is the best feeling on earth.
                    A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli


                      PF- that's where I got my barely used full-seats!! Just wanted to make sure I hadn't overlooked a new place.


                        Just have to say.... I went and rode yesterday morning, was all by myself in the ring. It was a really nice ride including a canter to the right. He was going so nicely I said, what the h%$ll! I am getting there but I have to be more clear about my aid to canter. I am learning to really love this horse. I know it has taken me three years but he has never done anything to make me not trust him. Yes, he is sensitive which will make me a better rider and he will not tolerate being ridden front to back ONLY back to front. His pace is moving out even when he has been out all night. I need to work on my canter a lot more before the winter sets in though.
                        DD is riding him today and tomorrow. I will not be there so I will cross my fingers that she is okay. This is the first time she will be riding with only my friend in the ring, who will be riding her own horse, That is a big step for us.
                        When I lose 30lbs I will post a picture!
                        I hope everyone else is doing okay.. enjoy the holiday weekend.. I am off to work now...
                        Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
                        Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
                        "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"


                          ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                          The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                          4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3


                            Classy, it's wonderful to hear from you. We think about you a lot and have missed you. Welcome back (though I wish it could be under happier circumstances).

                            Thanks for catching us up on what's been going on since we heard from you last. I think we all wondered about what happened with Rose. She was turning into such a nice little horse--so glad you found her what sounds like an ideal home.

                            For your next equine partner, I agree that a quiet QH might be ideal. Others to consider might be Morgans and Appaloosas. You know what you need: something sweet, steady, and sound. There's no need to rush into it, but you can keep your eye out for the right one.

                            As for Gabriel, I know what you mean when you look at his stall and get a lump in your throat. I cried for days after Jack (DD's heart horse) died of laminitis a couple of years ago. He used to wait at the gate to greet us everyday, and it was so hard not seeing him there. We know you'll never forget Gabriel: he was a once-in-a-lifetime partner. I'd like to honor his memory by making a small Re-Rider donation to an equine charity: is there one you prefer?

                            (P.S. Your PM inbox is full)
                            I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                              Super ride on PH today. Beautiful, perfect day, just the right temperature, not a cloud in the sapphire sky, gorgeous. PH was in a lovely mood-- he was in the mood to canter and canter and canter-- not rushing, not being silly and adrenalized, just wanted to canter. So we did-- lovely, flowing, balanced canter. We can now canter 10 meter circles-- and to think at the start of April he had no right rein canter at all and could not balance around 20 meters on the left rein.

                              Gorgeous PH-- love his canter! And apparently so does he!!!
                              A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli


                                Classy- I'm very sorry for the loss of Gabriel, he sounded wonderful. I'm proud of you for getting back in the saddle, I know that must have been difficult. What part of PA do you live in? My dad's family lives in Allentown area and my in-laws are Mennonite (some of the family is) that live in East Berlin.

                                Had my lesson on SuperPony, I hadn't sat on her since the show. It was like we hadn't missed a day. I went to fetch her in the stall and she came over and dropped her head for me to cuddle with her. We stood there a while- Pony snuggles are the best. As far as the lesson, we just did walk/trot, but I had good engagement and collection. I put my spurs back on, as my leg gets tired. I had shown only one class out of six with spurs, I don't need them to drive her, but I feel better having them in the arsenal. She earned her nickname on a new level today. She is indeed Super, but she made ME feel super today, like I could "leap tall buildings" and whatnot. I was stressed about work tomorow, and after a ride with her, I wasn't worried at all.

                                As promised, I took pictures of the baby- he's three weeks old already. I had called him Joker, but his name actually is Houdini. He has gotten out of every enclosure so far I pulled out my phone and he and Mama came over to the corral and posed. I hope these links work, I'm not exactly tech-savvy.




                                  Classy When I lost my Vinnie Girl, I cried for 3 days. Then. , I don't know why but every time I got in the car to drive.

                                  I thinkit was the shock. I didn't realise that you could lose a healthy horse overnight to colic. We lost her on Father's Day which was actually last night here and I didn't even think of her until now.

                                  We took Pepper back to Mum's. We had signed to buy the farm. I told non horsey hubby that I did not want another horse. Pepper was over 20 years old so probably wouldn't last too much longer. I would be out of horses when he went.

                                  Hubby read horse adverts out to me elite felt like every day. No. Wrong colour. Wrong size. Wrong breed. Wrong age. Wrong price. Wrong discipline.

                                  Until April when I had the thought 5hat he might go and buy a horse without me and I would be the one stuck at home training it and I may as well have a horse I like.

                                  The next advert hubby was chuffed with 3 yo black/ brown tb 16.2hh $800.00. I just said if he has raced I don't want him. He had raced 5 weeks before. Hubby said no. The guy said tell her to come and look and she will buy him. I rang back and yes I bought him. I would say the best horse I ever owned!

                                  I lost him to snakebite 2 days after losing g Pepper at over 30 years of age and I guess experience means we cope better.

                                  This time I have my 3yo th that didn't race.....but he isn't black!


                                  We took them early to our lesson. I put Sim on hole 5 on the lunge and he only trotted. Such an improvement after cantering for 10 minutes last time. I was able to lunge him up to A and down to C that we wouldn't go near last time.

                                  I hopped on him in walk in the outdoor area. Then Hubby walked him. The ground there was hard so I didn't want to go any faster.

                                  We left them after I lunged and rode Bobby. I did trot him as he doesn't seem as sensitive as Sim.

                                  I hopped on Sim without lunging when we returned and entered the indoor when it was my turn. He actually walked and did long and low. At one stage we halted to talk to the instructor. Sim gave a massive sigh, a snort and I commented that he had actually relaxed. He then stretched out and peed.... and peed ..... and peed.

                                  I was told afterwards that he sweated so much as he was so tense. He does something wrong to get me out of position and if I go out of position he has won. I have to learn position first, whatever 2nd with him.

                                  Bobby he said that when he grows up he will be a very laid back lad
                                  I need to make his reactions to my aids quicker now with a tap of the whip or I will pay for it later. He said Bobby didn't sweat because he didn't have the tension Sim did.

                                  My homework for both is a turn on the forehand and then a turn about the forehand on both to teach me to use my outside rein more effectively as it sucks at the moment.

                                  Hubby was able to ride Sim in a lesson and the instructor told me he was impressed with the questions he is now starting to ask.

                                  Both loaded and travelled perfectly.

                                  5 weaners in from next door so the Universe didn't think I had had enough exercise! .

                                  I managed to separate them into Bobby's paddock. Today I have to fix the electric fence and get them in a yard. I don't know if I will have enough time to ride. But I will try.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                    Sun you give me hope. We are not cantering yet.

                                    Lucky AAAWWW. The first one worked. The second one didn't.

                                    I was told yesterday that Bobby is laid back and I will need spurs as his training increases.

                                    I have never worn spurs as I can't put my heels down. He said that doesn't stop other people from using them. Peer pressure doesn't work on me. I will try and get him responsive enough to not need spurs. He doesn't at the moment. We will see. Time will tell.
                                    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                      Hi everyone, sorry for MIA, I have such mixed feelings that I couldn't get on here for the week.

                                      First, I will address everyone next week when i read back a few pages, but I want to say- Classy- thinking about you lots. Very sorry for your lost, miss you here. Not gonna pretend i know how you feel, but i've lost pets before, it's never easy.

                                      Why am i having mixed feelings? Well, trainer asked me to try her student's horse next week. This is a very nice mare, use to jump way higher, but due to some soundness issue, probably will be jumping 2'6 for awhile. She thought me and another student of hers can consider leasing her so that her owner can look for another horse that is for her level (over 3'6).

                                      I know this is good for me, this can help with my riding career leaps and bounds. But i love Bobby. I will miss him so much. I also remember Suzie once said "Bobby is not going anywhere, he is still at the ranch and I still get to hug him, give him treats and say hi.". That's true

                                      But is leasing a horse with soundness issue weird? I don't know much about this so this is also something to consider. Bobby is a barn favorite, if i give him up, i will probably never be able to get him back (well, not never, but will be difficult).


                                        I am not much use to you, Faye as we don't really have that system over here.

                                        It would really depend on why the horse has been degraded. If it is just because the rider has felt he has done enough and is keeping him jumping lower for his logevity then it could be the best thing that ever happened to you.

                                        Plus the knowledge that something could happen to Bobby tomorrow and then you would not have either horse.

                                        I would say try the other horse and let your feelings towards the horse help with your decision. You can not control how you feel about a horse. You should find that you love all horses.

                                        We only have a limited time with all the horses in our life. Over 20 years was not long enough for me with Pepper. It is a part of life that we usually outlive them and they are only in the prime of their life for a limited time.

                                        Don't be sad about this. Just appreciate every day you get to spend with them when they are sound and able to be ridden
                                        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                          Faye - Sorry to hear this decision is giving you so much angst - right after life was supposed to get easier with dropping the orchestra! There is no right or wrong choice, just two different paths. Definitely try the mare with an open mind, and think about your goals. Right now, at this point in your riding career, do you want to have fun or perhaps advance more/face new challenges? Do you feel like Bobby still has a lot to teach you (or do you care)? No judgement, just a personal decision. With a lease I wouldn't be quite as worried about the possible soundness issue, if she seems servicable for now.
                                          The only thing that gives me a little pause for concern is your trainers conflict of interest - is this horse really a good fit for you or is she pushing it on you because she's thinking about her other client, the horse's owner, so trainer can find a fancy new horse for her? Maybe I'm misreading, but something to think about.
                                          Good luck with the decision!!