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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • Greys: thanks for the info on the soloshot. I am thinking of seeing if some other parents want to go in on it together as I know its $$$. But I do feel like video helps a lot and if will work, well worth it. Horses are so wierd. Love that Bravo didnt care about the robot, but OH NO not a rake!!!

    Bergen: so nice to hear from you.

    Lost: love seeing your barn, how exciting. Again...barn-envy. Trot gences!!! I like your simple exercise; I have such a hard time with them, sounds like you figured it out, that's such a good feeling. And wow on the 1.40 speed class!!! Those are big sticks! Would love to see pictures.

    Paint: welcome and good grief, you are one tough cookie to come through all you have. And I loved hearing about the care you gave to your special two horses at the end. Congrats on qualifying for the medal! And I cannot imagine going up to a 3'6" jump and not being terrified. You are brave. We're happy to have you here.

    Aqua: pragmatic when dealing with horses????!!!! Ugh, I never am, but so understand how you feel. Hopefully you'll "feel it" one way or another when you try the horse. You also are pretty brave dealing with a *** horse and riding a very recent gelding!

    lmlacross: welcome! I also have two children (ages 6 and 9), so if you need to vent about the horse, work life, kids, balance--I'm here I agree that there's such a different perception and appreviation coming back as a re-rider. I don't take things for granted, I do savor my riding time, I look forward to it so much more (unless its 30 degrees or less). I'm glad your back in the saddle.

    Sugar: so glad you had a good ride back in the plain stirrups. Love hearing about riding the point and shoot pony, he's like" leave me alone and let me do my job passenger!" My DDs pony is like that too. What wonderful little creatures. I am excitied to hear about Cash and the crossrail girl; please post a picture or two!

    PF: your place is so nice; I have acre and barn envy when I see your videos! Katie is lovely, she is so feminine and flowing in how she goes. I agree you have a lot to work with
    Had a jump lesson today. I struggled with keeping Greta in front of my leg, and relatedly with rhythm (and track). I feel like I often have cruddy lessons before a show, so I am hoping this just blows through. I'll have one more flat and and two more jump lessons before the show. I do need to get my game face on though and start being more serious at lessons, I think I just get lazy and don't "bring it" at lessons. But I know I need to if I want to do the .85s, which I do!!!! It's supposed to get into the 90's here which is almost unheard of. I will MELT!


    • Welcome Welcome Welcome to the newbies.

      I am your resident Aussie!

      I have read back. I am another who needs to not think and just ride.

      If you are having a massive problem with one side of your body consider seeing a chiropractor.

      Winter has finally hit. It actually starts on the 1st of June here. Last winter we did not have a frost until the last 3 days of winter. This year we have had 3 frosts in a row starting on the 3rd of June. Our grass will die and the Scenic Rim will turn from green to brown.

      We saw it predicted and cut our long paddock the night before the frost and hubby put on the winter rugs he had bought.

      We baled last week. 56 round bales and 300 square bales. 200 of the square bales are for my best friend.

      I am late this morning from reading back. The horses have had 2 days off.

      Hubby took Wednesday off and we went to Farmfest. I did get a new tester for the fence so I should have been down fixing that instead of reading back!!

      On my day away hubby lunged and rode Sim for the first time. Sim was good and he said they had fun. His biggest worry was falling off and being hung up by the stirrup.

      ????? Remember I bought those plastic things after we lost Claudia sp?? They go on the front of the stirrup so it is impossible for your foot to go through. They are on both saddles now since that thread of what happened to her. They are bulky and mean we cross the stirrups over the saddle instead of running our stirrups up. He relaxed and said he thinks they should be mandatory for everyone. I just nodded.

      Well the horses have had 2 days off. Sim has been good and getting fit. Twiggy is getting better with being NQR. So now to see if the 2 days off has made her better or worse!

      I did leave my gloves at my lesson. I have them back. They don't turn my hands black!
      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


      • I am posting here because I am not quite sure where to post.

        I have ridden for 25 years (I am 51.) I started with Saddlebreds (my mother and I had performance horses together) and after her death I switched disciplines and have been riding h/j for the past 15 years. About a year and a half ago, I started losing confidence and felt out of sync in my body on my horse. It started happening after I shattered my collarbone (and had surgery) and I attributed it to that for a long time. But things started getting worse. By July of last year, I started having trouble mounting and dismounting. Nothing else seemed really wrong though occasionally when I walked I shuffled. I had numerous back and disc issues and always assumed these infrequent gait disturbances were related to this. By the holidays however, I was convinced that I could no longer be in the saddle. Riding my wonderful horse no longer brought me joy. Getting on and off was too difficult and I was scared but had no idea why. This was so disturbing. My doctor couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. All of my tests were normal. I truly felt I was I was going insane. I convinced my trainer (who happens to also be my closest friend) to lease my horse for the year and I actually checked myself into a 30 day mental health facility because I felt I had no other options. It was there (THANK GOODNESS) that a doctor finally sent me to the right neurologist and after 3 MRIs figured out that I had a benign tumor on the 3rd ventricle of my brain which caused hydrocephalus (cerebral fluid to build up in the brain.) I had surgery in March to remove the tumor and drain the fluid. My walking is completely back to normal and I no longer feel insane! I am so lucky to have caught this as it definitely would have been fatal.

        My trainer lives 1.5 hours away. I used to commute 1 or 2x a week when my horse was in training to ride. I went to visit her last week and rode a horse for the first time in 8 months. It was AMAZING! I was back to normal. Getting on and off was once again like tie my shoe laces. Everything felt like rote. There was no fear, trepidation, or anxiety. I was home.

        I don't get my horse back for 6 months. I am ready for my life again with horses. Finding a situation where I can ride is going to be tough. But I need to do it and I am so ready. Thanks for letting me share here.


        • What a wonderful story Bearhunter. Welcome.
          It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


          • Just when I think I am going to have time to post and keep up! Well, long story short, Meri is still off waiting for vet to inject his hocks. Was supposed to be today but she had two horses colic and she had to tube one of them this afternoon. DD has been riding one of the camp horses and is having a blast. That is after she cried she did not like him! She has to learn to use the tools she has so she can ride other horses.
            I have not been in the saddle in a while.
            Welcome, newbies. This group is awesome!!!!! Love them. My hubby and I are trying to figure out our bets for the Belmont. I live about an hour and half from there but we cannot go, we have a wedding to go to. How dare his friend have a wedding on that day especially since there is a triple crown at stake..
            FYI, I have come across some great videos on line for those of you dabbling in dressage. Look up Jane Savoy, she is awesome...
            Maybe soon I will catch up.... boy, I wish I had some free time....
            Hope everyone is well and having fun..... :-)
            Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
            Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
            "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"


            • BITSA, Thanks for your compliments on my farm. It's always a work in progress. I do love it. It can be a pain sometimes, though. It really ties up your time. And vacations are a challenge, unless DH and I go separately. Also thanks for your compliments on Katie. I really like her.

              I hope your coming lessons are great. Well, at least you know you have a system of a cruddy lesson before a show, and then you go in and do well. Fingers crossed for your show! Take lots of water for the heat.

              Suzie, I always forget you are in opposite seasons. Happy Winter!

              Bearhunter, welcome! I am so happy that you were able to find out what was causing your trouble and you were able to fix them. That is very scary! I foresee much happy riding in your future. You'll find a horse to ride, I'm sure. Can you try to get your horse back from the lease? Or are they really enjoying your horse?

              Keep us posted, and enjoy the ride!

              ivy, hope Meri gets his hocks done soon. I do Chico's, too.

              Go American Pharoah!!!


              I had a really good ride on Katie last night. No lesson, just schooling, though my DH helped me out as eyes on the ground. He's usually tougher than my trainer, haha. But it started a little rough with her all nose-in-the-air. But by the end I had some of the NICEST trotting I have had with her. She finally got it with me. We did do some figure-8s with simple lead changes at the canter for the first time. After we did a few, she understood and tried. Her right is always tougher than left, but she was getting it. And she really didn't get upset when I'd make her swap. So that's a plus. All in all, a very good ride.
              My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


              • hi guys

                I edited my schooling session from Wednesday and made a little video in imovie. Results here


                I actually made another video of our more "challenging" moments I called the blooper real. BITSA's seen it! Choice moments like when Bravo refused to canter forward and circle at the same time, so instead did lead changes and baby bucks...I just want to remind him that that is probably WAY more effort than just going forward but he does not agree.

                If you watch the video though, you can see the robot really keeping me pretty centered in the frame and zooming in and out accordingly. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good.

                PF It sounds like you had a super productive ride with Katie. It sounds like she was really open to working with you. My trainer says "he was on our team today". I think that's when you really make big strides in the training, when they see.

                Re: your comment to me above with Chico, you're so hard on yourself! But that's practically a requirement for this group right? Video always surprises me. The things I thought felt awful usually look ok and then the things I thought were really outstanding or bold were...good and all...but angels did not weep or anything.

                ivy it sounds like you are in the middle of same major horse drama sheesh. Can't believe anyone would plan a wedding around a major horse event, that's almost obscene!

                Bearhunter I was so moved by your story. Your connection to the horses is clearly so intense. What a fantastic victory to get back into the saddle. I'm excited you've joined our group.

                Suzie the stories from your property always make me dream. I would love to experience that closeness to the land around you. So cool!

                BITSA I think if you can recreate some of sensations you feel at a show that get your brain in gear at home, I would try that. Or just pretend Rich Fellers is scouting for a new rider to help him with his string. I swear that would keep me focused

                Paint what lovely horses you've got there, thanks for sharing pictures!


                • grey, love the video! You two look great together. He is adorable. I must have missed the post(s) about the robotic camera?? If that's what you're talking about, I need to re-read and research that. I LOVE that idea.

                  Bloopers, that's a good idea, too. I think I should do a bloopers video. I would have a lot to fill it, haha.

                  You're right, we are our own worst critics here! Occasionally I say something good about my riding. haha. Easier to criticize, though, I guess!

                  This made me smile!: "and then the things I thought were really outstanding or bold were...good and all...but angels did not weep or anything."
                  My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                  • Oooooohh a robot camera. Such a need! Where do you get them? How much?

                    I was slack I didnt work the horses yesterday. I did rake and volunteer at the Salvos And then a 50% sale at the local cheap shop that I didn't know about in advance. I spent $52.00. Socks for hubby. Toilet cleaners. Things like that. What fun!

                    Having a connection to the land is a gamble. You rely on the weather. Never forget that there is a high rate of suicide.

                    We missed the hay season because of rain. We are lucky we managed to cut before the first frost. We have enough feed to get through to the next hay season......if we are able to make hay in it. It is amazing how much you relax when you have a shed full of hay. Yyyaaayyyy.
                    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                    • It's called a soloshot


                      You can put your own camcorder on it, as long as it has a multi cable connect to control it. Takes some practice to get working but I think it's worthwhile.

                      They support a variety of cameras, including a go-pro. Though the disadvantage of the go-pro is it doesn't zoom in and out.


                      It's expensive ($500 USD for the base tag and camera controller, not including camcorder), but I'm willing to bet it will be MUCH cheaper in a couple years. Worth keeping an eye on, I think it's a really neat device.


                      • Oh man it's hard to keep up! I will do my best.

                        lmalacrossSugar - that's a busy schedule! Hope the trip to Colorado goes smoothy, and good luck to your daughter and Cash

                        Paradoxpaintjumper - Welcome! Finding the right trainer is so important; I'm almost embarrassed how many I've tried since I started riding again, but it makes such a tremendous difference. Honestly, this sport is too resource-intensive to spend time riding with somebody who doesn't have a positive impact on things. Your horses are beautiful!! I love Nina's coloring.

                        Cupid - I wondered! It's so beautiful down there. I may PM you.. particularly if I get serious about going off the deep end and getting my own horse.

                        Greys - Thanks for the insight about the soloshot. The video you shared is pretty impressive! Robots will take over the world one day more importantly, I LOVE Bravo! He's beautiful.

                        BITSASuzieQ - Happy Winter! How cold does it get in Australia?

                        Bearhunter - Thank you so much for sharing your story, and welcome! Congratulations on getting back in the saddle; the power these crazy animals have to lift spirits is pretty incredible. I hope you find a way to continue spending time with horses one way or another.

                        Ivy - Really like Jane Savoie's videos! I feel like I used to obsessively read a column she wrote for Practical Horseman or similar, but great to see some of her clinics, etc. Bookmarked for sure!

                        As for me...

                        Eventful couple of days with the baby CANTER horse. He decided that he didn't much like being in his little (attached to his stall), so got all tangled up in the fence and scraped up his right hind. After disentangling him, the barn manager moved him to a different stall with what she thought was more secure fencing. He then proceeded to take down the fence between him and his neighbor needless to say, he is on lockdown until we get the fences repaired and figure out a better solution! I know he's frustrated - and I don't blame him - but he works himself up too much in bigger paddocks, so right now the stall + hand walking and groundwork or lunging seems to be the best course of action. Here's the silly boy being annoyed that he can't go out and wreck a few additional fences.

                        Heading to the barn this afternoon to work with the baby, and tomorrow visit the horse I am kiiiiind of tempted to adopt. Then going to watch a Lainey Ashker clinic at the barn - really looking forward to that.

                        Most of my childhood horsey pics are in a box at my parents' house, but I have a few and will try to dig up more. Nancy is probably the sweetest and most honest mare I've ever ridden; not an easy horse, but so athletic and willing to try anything; she taught me so much! She lives with my parents in New York and is 33 years old - going strong! Here were are visiting last Christmas:

                        Not the greatest picture, but this is from one of our early events as youngsters

                        I am actively nervous about the Belmont. Deep breaths. Happy Weekend!
                        Urban Thoroughbred


                        • Had my lesson with SuperPony and we rode with SportsModel and the Kid, aka his regular rider. Kid did fine, cantered around on Sport like it was easy, except when she was trying to learn how to canter AROUND me and Pony. Bless her, she did it once, then couldn't get it together, even with us in the corner. Sport is a super packer and is a great confidence builder for the Kid.

                          Pony- well, lets just say there were two hissy fits, one I started and one she did. Apparently I wasn't relaxing and she totally told on me, head tossing and playing. Full disclosure, I told Fabulous, my awesome trainer, "I dont want to do this", and we were just to be trotting. We carried on anyway, and once we settled down, man the Pony was ON. Forward, in frame, felt like we were at the Big Show. She rocked it the last time in that arena, and was more forward and focused than ever. Apparently that's her new default. Problem is, for nervous me, it feels like she's gonna go off Mach 10, when she is just marching forward. I kinda forgot she doesn't amble anymore. I even took off my spurs, which were more for my tired legs than for her, for the forseable future. After it was all done today, Fabulous said we looked good and did well. Pony was all snuggly afterwards and very politely took her peppermints and permitted me to love on her and kiss her nose, my favorite thing.


                          • Awesome race!!!
                            My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                            • Hi folks! I am so far behind I do not even know where to start!!! Busy summer for re-riders. So I will try to get caught up over a few posts-- if I miss you-- I will get there!

                              Triple Crown-- was that not fantastic? So nice to have a Triple Crown winner again. Well done to the horse and his connections.

                              Welcome to all the new re-riders! You found the best part of the COTH forums!

                              Suzie-- oh winter... It is finally full on summer here-- warm, but not too much-- lots of gorgeous sun and blue sky! Hooray!!! How cold does it get where you are in Queensland?

                              Ivy-- hope your horse is doing better and you are getting some good saddle time!

                              BITSA-- hope that your show goes great. I look at it this way, if you make mistakes at home, you are not likely to have those same ones at the show. And if we never made mistakes, there would never be anything to work on. I am sure you and your pretty Greta will do fantastic! Another horse that is very drool worthy-- Greta is gorgeous.

                              Greys-- I covet your horse. He is so gorgeous. You make such a great pair.

                              Quickly about PH:

                              He came in from the pasture a little bit nicked and bit up. He said he and Albert had a fight of some sort-- perhaps about religion and science? PH said he did not wish to discuss it, but he seems to have put on his brave big boy pants since and stopped being afraid of plastic.

                              Actually he has just been marvellous. His canter gets better and better, he is reaching down for contact and if I remember to BREATHE and support him with my core, I get such a soft ride. I need to do my core muscle exercises. Our instructor says he is like a different horse in the few short weeks we have been working together- I have to agree. When you get the right combination, progress can happen so fast.

                              PH is looking shiny and well from his summer grass-- all is well-- going in the right direction. Life is good.
                              A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli


                              • sun- I agree with your insights on making mistakes, definitely what I need to remember for my rides with Pony. I do so enjoy your chats with PH, he sounds quite well-rounded, perhaps literally at times .

                                I still can't believe American Pharoah. I wonder if there will be suspense for next year? Can't even begin to imagine his stud fee. He was definitely the most fit and made it look easy. I bet his trainer is set for life now too.


                                • It gets cold enough here to get frosts overnight which disappear as soon as the sun comes out. What that means is you fill waters in the afternoon if the hoses are frozen in the morning.

                                  Last year we had frosts the last 3 days of winter. This year we have had 3 frosts in the first 3 days of winter.

                                  I come from an hour north east of here. They do not get frosts so I had to acclimatise. We put in a combustion stove. We only used it the first 3 years. Now I am happy with a big warm dressing gown, puppy dog slippers and a blankie!

                                  It has been warmer the last couple of days and it is a BEAUTIFUL day outside now.

                                  Hubby worked the horses yesterday and both were bad.

                                  I worked them both this morning and they didn't put a hoof wrong. Although Twiggy was NQR on both leads. She is completely sound in walk.

                                  Don't you hate it when you think you are doing so well and the instructor changes something?

                                  I kept hubby on the lunge this morning so I had conteol of Sim. Hubby was doing well so I said rise for 2.

                                  He sat for 2. It took him a bit to get his brain to understand. His body wasn't successful. He is now a little down as he was getting full of himself with how good he is!

                                  That will teach him to saying no to Pilates and the hula hoop. Heh heh heh!!!

                                  Yesterday I didn't have time to work the horses. I fenced from dawn to dusk. Except for raking the hay. THE FENCES ARE FIXED!!!

                                  22 round bales last night to add to our tally.

                                  This is not our haymaking season. It was too wet over Summer so we had to dry out first. The frost kills the grass so we managed to cut before the first frost.

                                  With the fence fixed I have let the cattle down below the creek. They can eat. The grass is not too bad at the moment. It will go downhill with the first rain which is being predicted on Wednesday, so they can eat to their hearts content now.

                                  Exactly what you wanted yesterday. Murray had calved. The calf was trying to get up. Later as I walked up the calf was drinking.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                  • Welcome to the group, PaintJumper and Bearhunter!

                                    PF Can you pm me your address as well? I have some saddle pads and a show shirt or two I can donate

                                    Greys I'm going to have to get a soloshot ! That thing is AWESOME, I loved your video! Once Cash is at home and I'm riding alone more often that would really come in handy. What is Bravo's breeding again? He reminds me SO much of a horse we have in our barn, I just love him!

                                    Bitsa How was the show?

                                    Ivy Did Meri get his hocks done yet? Hoping you can get back in the saddle soon

                                    Aqua It was actually a lesson kiddo that rode my horse in the show this weekend, I don't have any kids (yet)!! How was the Lainey Ashker clinic? Loved your pics, baby Canter horse is so cute, though he does look like a troublemaker !

                                    Lucky Sounds like a really good lesson! I'm sure you'll get used to that forward pace and will like it a whole lot more than having to be nagging with your leg the whole ride!

                                    Sun I'm glad to hear PH has been so good lately! You must be proud of all the progress you're making, well done!!

                                    Suzie You've been busy! Too funny about DH and the posting trot exercise, did you make him join you for pilates over the weekend?


                                    First, I'm SO excited that we have a Triple Crown winner again! I told DH this makes it even more special that we got to see him race live at the Preakness, what an incredible horse!

                                    Remember I said we were going to take the horses to the show Thursday, set up and school, and then I was going to show Friday morning before my flight left for Co? Well, I got to the barn Thursday morning and my trainers mare had just had her foal (by my trainers stallion!) Here he is only two hours old!
                                    Obviously, this threw a slight wrench in our plans and delayed everything enough that I decided I wasn't going to have time to show AND catch my flight so I had to back out of the show.

                                    Cash still went so the lesson kiddo could show him in the crossrail division and apparently he was perfect for her! I haven't heard all of the results, but I know they took 2nd in the hack, and won some ribbons over fences as well. Here is a pic of Cash and the pony, Savannah, that I also school sometimes


                                    • Sugar, adorable pics, both! Sorry you missed the show. Are you still in CO? (Also, I PM's address, thanks again!!)

                                      Suzie, stay warm.

                                      lucky, I bet Baffert did get a pretty good bonus, but I think he was pretty set before this anyway. And even the jockey, Victor Espinoza, they did a clip of him and he was driving his Mercedes. I like, him, and he had brilliant rides all three races, so I hope he gets a big fat bonus, too.

                                      sunflower, glad all is going well with your riding on PH! Sounds like you're definitely headed in the right direction.

                                      aquabrwn, thanks for your kind words. And thank you for any donation items you may want to send! You can PM me if you find anything (and/or cash donations, of course, happily accepted!)

                                      I LOVE your pictures! Thanks for sharing.

                                      grey, thanks for the camera info. I think that is really cool! I want one. I'll have to stick that on my Christmas list or something.


                                      Not much new here. I had a lesson scheduled for this afternoon, but radar shows a storm heading our way, so we cancelled. Hopefully she'll find a spot for me later this week.

                                      Katie did her first oxer (gymnastics) yesterday. She is doing well! Baby stuff, but still.

                                      I also went as a spectator on Saturday to a USDF dressage show. NICE. Motivated me some. I was watching a few GP tests, and the Intermediarre (sp?) tests. Nice horses.
                                      My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                      • Okay, just read this and had to share regarding Bob Baffert and Victor Espinoza:

                                        Victor Espinoza, the jockey who rode American Pharoah to the first triple crown in 37 years on Saturday, is celebrating his historic victory in the coolest way possible.

                                        According to a report in the Courier-Journal, Espinoza will be following the lead of trainer Bob Baffert and donating his winnings to charity. The Baffert family will be donate $50,000 both to the Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund and the California Retirement Management Account. Espinoza will direct his $80,000 prize to California-based cancer research center:

                                        "At the wire I was like, 'I cannot believe I did it,'" Espinoza said. "I (won) the Triple Crown race now, but I didn't make any money, because I donated my money to the City of Hope."
                                        My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                        • I love reading all of the posts and looking at your pics and videos. One day, I will try to address everyone
                                          I had a show this weekend. I did go off course on my first course. Cantered the first three fences and realized I did the wrong line. How embarrassing After that, all went well. Both horses are coming along nicely and I am finally feeling more confident. The funniest part of the show was when the announcer said "Sheila Muse riding Lynn (oops)". Believe me, if Sheila felt she could be the rider and me the horse, she would be one happy girl.
                                          Here is to everyone having a successful and fun week.