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  • Just wanted to make a quick update about the Mag Restore that I started Iris on. We haven't changed anything else, except that the weather has gotten warmer, and she's a different horse after 2 weeks and only half the dosage that was suggested. (Full dosage gave her wet poop). Totally chilled out. She's more like the horse I bought 5 years ago. I've actually been looking forward to going to ride. Even had to add a pair of small spurs, because I couldn't get her out of a jog! My trainer is amazed.

    When this bag runs out, I am going to stop the mag and see if she reverts to being more nervous again, to prove to myself that it really is the magnesium.

    Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.


    • Awesome, NJR. I'd be curious to hear how she is when you take her back off it for a test. Let us know! Anyway, glad you are enjoying her again!
      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
      ¯ Oscar Wilde


      • Just popping in to say that I hope everyone had a great weekend and a great start to this week....Our start to the week is also known as Back To The Swamp Season. This rain is just crazy! We have had one good solid week of sunny weather - enough to get some beautiful hay cut and put up. Footing is crap for riding...times like these I wish I was living back in So. Pines b/c of the wonderful footing. Oh well.

        DD is headed to Raleigh with her Junior NCDCTA Club either this weekend or next. She's not showing but they are doing some "walk" test as a club - it's funny, DD said, "I'm always the butt. Why am I the butt? Maybe Tami thinks I do a good haunches in!" I'm thinking, yeah, that's what I'm thinking when you're BEING a butt around here! haha

        I'm trying to decide whether to bite the bullet and head to adult dressage camp. It's a weekend boot camp of sorts and the focus is on being fit/strong/correct position of our bodies. Yoga guru is supposed to be there... I'm not sure where my body is when I'm NOT on the horse...not sure I want to open myself up to being the example of what not to do. It's been a long time since I've done "legit" dressage - everything in the past 13 years has focused more on h/j stuff. Keep reminding myself it's only money and I will learn something...stop being a sissy! Oh, to have the body from my 20s again.

        Y'all have a good week! Out to finish chores in my waders and snorkel gear!
        Last edited by Finzean; May. 21, 2013, 09:09 AM. Reason: not enough coffee


        • Paradox, I may not be at HC today. Seems like my farm is the destination for the CL TWH on the Off Course forum, and arrival may be in the late afternoon or early evening. I won't know until later. You are certainly welcome to visit HC anyway. They have a great front porch that faces the ring, and we spend many laid back summer hours sitting on the porch, and talking. People also hang out by the ring and watch the lessons. They are used to random new people showing up. Just introduce yourself, and enjoy.
          It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

          www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


          • Barn etiquette for newbie owner (sort of long)

            *Started my own thread on this topic (slightly different), but thought I would also post here; feel free to delete if that's not appropriate*

            I did the requisite Girl Scout riding camp ... cough *30* cough ... years ago, and have always had one or two friends with horses, but it's only in the last 7 years that I've really gotten back into horses. I've been a volunteer equine humane investigator for the 4.5 years, and have read/ done seminars & webinars/gotten an equine science certificate to learn more. I have been riding at a barn for the last five years. My daughter started riding, then it was both of us, then my daughter didn't want to ride anymore and it was just me.

            I have honestly probably been a trainer's worst type of student: generally REALLY chickenshit rider anyway (scared of falling due to weight/lack of gracefulness) + erratic schedule, weeks without taking a lesson due to school (returning student at 42 who just graduated), illness, heat (over 95 + liquid air . . . like every single lesson day last summer!), flippin' work nonsense, etc. I am clearly NOT my trainer's bread and butter client! I have always let her know as soon as possible if I can't make it, and even though she tries to brush it off, I pay her for the lesson missed (it works out to about 50% of the time). My lesson time is the last one of the evening, so I'm not throwing off lessons for the rest of the day.

            My 13yo DD will also be resuming lessons; I honestly think it was hard for her to be interested/get attached to any horse that wasn't ours (we have before, and they've left/died (naturally)/etc.). We have both made the commitment to be at the barn at least 3-4 times a week (more if she gets into it), and LEARN as much as possible.

            I like to say I know enough to be really dangerous -- to me, books are a good basis, but I am lacking in the hands-on, know-things-automatically that you get from working around horses day in and day out. I never hesitate to ask questions if I don't know something, and when I hear something *~*NEW and FABULOUS*~* LOL, I always ask my BM, and she runs down pros and cons.

            However, I am making the jump to boarder in June, and I would love to know those little things to avoid that drive BM/BOs and boarders nuts!!

            My horse is one that is already at the barn; I will just be taking over board on him. No shoes air-fern pocket 7 yo Percheron gelding with no real vices (can get a little pushy/nippy about treats), special dietary or health requirements. I've known him since he was 18 mos old. He was diagnosed with pretty severe anemia when he arrived (was a bit of a rescue by the asst BM); she put him on PowerHorse and then Red Cell, and he recovered quickly, and subsequently only really needed it in the spring. He was on turnout for 3 years out of state until last September, when he was purchased by someone at the barn, who just decided to sell him back to owner last month (6 months later).

            I would like to get medical + liability insurance on him, since he may be used for lessons/part of the drill team, etc; I'm wondering if it's worth it to run a full workup on him to get a baseline reading + check and see where his anemia is (does he need RedCell/PowerHorse or did he grow out of it)?

            "Let's face it -- Beezie Madden is NOT looking over her shoulder for me anytime
            soon . . . or ever, even in her worst nightmares."

            Member, Higher Standards Leather Care Addicts Anonymous


            • Welcome, 2horseygirls. Well, as far as getting a full vet check, that's really a personal decision. I will say that with most of my horses who did not have a high price tag (most of them) I have not done a PPE. I just figured with those particular horses, I would take the risk since I was not out a lot of cash if something should happen. But I think I have a pretty good basic understanding of conformation, etc., and I rode the horses a few times and talked extensively with the previous owner(s) about those horses. Still, sure, something can go wrong. But personally I usually do not do a PPE.

              As far as not doing anything annoying for barn owner, don't worry about it. I'm sure every boarder can be annoying in some small way! Just be yourself, enjoy your horse, etc. I guess if I had to give a piece of advice for a new boarder, it would be not to be overly nit-picky with every little thing at first. Use the first month or so to get to know how things work, etc. That is not to say, however, that if you see something going on that you really do not like, that you would keep quiet! You'll get the hang of it. Good luck, and keep us posted!
              “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
              ¯ Oscar Wilde


              • Well, I finally got to meet Pony4me! I headed out to her farm and got to meet her, her trainer, and her lovely (big) pony, Snickers! Nice place, nice people, and nice horses. I enjoyed it.

                Pony4me, how is that TWH doing?
                “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                ¯ Oscar Wilde


                • NJR: Feronia gets SmartCalm and yes it really does make a difference. It doesn't make her any quieter, but it helps with her focus. I know people quibble over the legality of these supplements all the time, though.

                  2horseygirls, I agree with everything PF said about your new horse (and congratulations!) I would go ahead and get a baseline on his anemia status, but keep in mind that if you take him off RedCell he may become anemic again. (I have anemia and a double dose of Ferrous Gluconate each day keeps me just inside the normal range for hematocrit etc. But if I get sloppy about it, I become anemic again really fast.)

                  As for me and the golden pony, we're doing pretty well. Had a scary episode 2 weeks ago where she was suddenly lame at the canter. It was probably a slipped stifle and I am crossing my fingers it doesn't happen again. Of course by the time the vet came 2 days later, she was 100% sound on it. But he did worry about her left hock so we did some X-rays and discovered the joint is in the process of fusing. This can be quite painful until it's completely fused, which could take months, so she's on Previcox now after a week of Bute, and will need a hock injection sometime in the not too distant future.

                  In the meantime... obviously we lost some riding time to all this, but I have gotten her out on the trails a few times as the window of opportunity before it gets too buggy is closing soon. Here is my favorite view!

                  We've had some good lessons and I am finding the "go-ey" mare I know and love. Every lesson, however, starts with 10-15 minutes of "you must go forward from a light aid." I find this tiresome, but my trainer has pretty much told me this is the way it is, and as I do it more the time required to get forward might decrease, but not necessarily ever go away. She reminds me that *many* horses are this way, especially those who are achy from arthritis. But if I do this consistently, I consistently end up with a better ride.
                  You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                  1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"


                  • Love the pic, QA. Very nice. Looks like a very nice trail, too.
                    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                    ¯ Oscar Wilde


                    • Sorry I haven't been on lately, I've been traveling/lazy. It sounds like things are looking up for everyone though, which I'm happy to see.

                      I got a little kick in the pants this morning at my lesson (first one in two weeks since I've been gone). It looks like my beloved, flat jumping, basically bombproof schoolie is getting retired, he just can't stay sound. Now I get to ride the one who dumped me spine first onto a fence as my regular lesson horse. The one who is best described as "belligerent." And our day began with the scary gymnastic bounce, bounce, bounce, one stride, two stride. I think it was obvious that I was terrified, but I did it dang it. We actually had a decent lesson if you can ignore the racing around like a loon for ten strides after every fence (he gets strong on the back sides).

                      So after I did the days course a few times, my trainer beckons me over (silly me thinking he's changing the course), and gives me a little lecture. Basically 'did you freak yourself out so bad worrying that you're now exhausted? Or can you continue? You can stop now, or you can push yourself, either one is ok, but you have to decide.' So I said 'let's continue' and he just had me do the same course once more, and then I was done. I don't know why, it just gave me this vibe like we were talking about more than just the lesson. It was almost like he was asking 'are you going to quit trying to improve because you're scared, or are you going to suck it up and keep trying and become a real rider.' I felt like it was some kind of test.


                      • Me too, it's been awhile - busy, busy weekend, then migraine, now finally catching up.

                        Button - it may just have been a question - if you're worried about it - ask. Glad you survived though - I hate those little gymnastics too!

                        Nice view quietann!

                        Paradox and Pony - glad you got to meet - how fun is that?!

                        Welcome 2horseygirls!

                        NJR - glad the MagRestore is working and that you've got your horse back!

                        Hey CV welcome back!

                        Had a blast at the mini event and learned a ton. My trainer ended up 5th in her division. She really just went to put some miles on her green bean, so she surprised herself. I really like working with her mare - she is big and can be pushy, but now that she's gotten to know me, she's quite the "pocket pony". Trainer was very pleased with my help - which is never a bad thing!

                        Hope to finally get a ride in tomorrow. DD has her second lesson on Saturday morning and is really looking forward to it!

                        "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                        • I think it was more, I condensed it down for brevity. There was a part about going and doing dressage instead, and if you're here then you're here to jump. Stuff about not being allowed to progress backward just because I had a fall. It felt like some kind of watershed moment.


                          • Originally posted by Button View Post
                            I think it was more, I condensed it down for brevity. There was a part about going and doing dressage instead, and if you're here then you're here to jump. Stuff about not being allowed to progress backward just because I had a fall. It felt like some kind of watershed moment.
                            Well, that does sound different and maybe even a bit unkind. Was he having a bad day? Does he normally say things like that to you? It's not easy getting over a fall - I sure wouldn't appreciate that kind of "support". There's a time and place for tough love, but I think that was uncalled for, esp since you had soldiered on and completed the course again . . . that calls for congrats and a pat on the back

                            "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                            • Talking to a lady at the barn. Mentioned going to a show. She says "oh you must be good. You probably win all the time!" Assuming she assumed this bc I'm 35 and obviously know what I'm doing right? Yeah right! I said "heck no! I'm a rerider on a green ottb" she replies "rerider haha what is that like a retard?" Uh yeah kinda.


                              • Originally posted by Ruby2shoes View Post
                                Talking to a lady at the barn. Mentioned going to a show. She says "oh you must be good. You probably win all the time!" Assuming she assumed this bc I'm 35 and obviously know what I'm doing right? Yeah right! I said "heck no! I'm a rerider on a green ottb" she replies "rerider haha what is that like a retard?" Uh yeah kinda.
                                Aw..that was not a very nice comment!
                                “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                • I haven't been checking in, but I have been reading!
                                  I am going to my first show tomorrow-just a small schooling show-but it's my first since my jumper died. I will probably just show in the adult amateurs and the modified. If I get brave I may try the medal, but all those good juniors ride I'm not as long and lean as I want to be! I am excited!
                                  Oh, I am leasing a wonderful hunter mare. She is coming to me from Virginia. She is a Pre Green horse this year, so I am excited to get her. She will be down the end of this month.


                                  • I haven't checked in for awhile-- new barn is working out great. Trainer is riding him and he's improving and I'm getting more confident in him. I took him out hacking on wednesday and he was super. I really like this horse

                                    I'm now in the throes of buying a trailer. I had settled on one model, that I'd need to buy brand new. I really WANT to buy brand new, but it's a lot of $$. I just found a used one similar to what I want, but it doesn't have windows in the curtain doors and I really like the airflow that comes from being able to open both the side windows and the rear door windows to get the crossflow. So I am sort of stuck between paying about $4k more for a brand new trailer, or continuing to try to hunt down one I like that's used, saving $4k but having to deal with inspections, repairs, etc on something that has been rusting for a decade.
                                    Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                                    you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.


                                    • MS - good luck and congrats on your new lease mare!

                                      soloud - great news about the new barn and horse - hope all continues to go well. As far as the trailer goes - sounds to me like $4k is a small price to pay for the piece of mind having a brand new trailer will bring - not to mention then you will have exactly what you want!

                                      "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                                      • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
                                        Aw..that was not a very nice comment!
                                        I couldn't agree more!

                                        "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                                        • Tiger - It was a five minute lecture, and then I did the course again having decided to soldier on, and then I was done. That's the part that made me feel like it was some kind of test, like he wanted to see if I would dig in and do it just one more time. He is a tough love sort of guy though. I appreciate your pat on the back though, I was pretty proud of myself.

                                          Ruby - what the hell! Not cool barn lady, not cool.

                                          MSHunter13 - I would love to see pics when she arrives!

                                          soloud - I wish I could offer trailer advise, but I'm useless in that regard. I'm glad you like your new place and trainer though, there's no feeling that can match being confident and relaxed on a horse.