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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • Finzean - glad Amazon seems to have sorted out her lama issues & you had a good ride! I'd be very happy with trot work that felt like an "8."

    TH - I always learn tons as grounds person at shows. I don't love showing myself so I'm usually happier on the ground lol. And YAY for your DD! Hope her lesson goes well!!

    As for me, yesterday was a bit disheartening again . Gabby is going through a weird phase, as I used to have awesome rides on her. Then yesterday she was rearing, bucking, all over the place. So trainer got on and schooled it out of her a bit but she was still very up and never really settled. Trainer rode her again today and it was same deal - she probably rode for nearly an hour and the mare would.not.settle. She doesn't appear to be in pain or anything....its very strange.

    Then I rode Summer and had a great ride. She got her right lead the 2nd attempt then again first attempt, so I called it not a fluke and ended there. I rode her again today and she was awesome again. I Love love love this pony & am trying to find her a home up in Virginia with my old barn owner. I think pony would be perfect for her kids, so fingers crossed.

    I also rode Sadie this AM. She was great - fingers crossed this continues. My leg position feels way better too, phew.
    "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
    "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey


    • I met the girl who is going to lease Toby for the summer last evening. She is a sweet girl and is totally in love with Toby. I met the other girl as well. She rides a POA and has no idea what inside leg outside rein means.

      Oh boy There is a lot of work to be done with them. I asked them if they had the proper things for a proper turnout for a rider and they got a confused look on their faces.. I said helmet. prince of wales spurs and a bat.. And I told the one girl the boots she was wearing would not work she would need at least boots with a heel on them something like paddock boots. She was wearing were like Ugg boots with no heel.

      What have I gotten myself into, its going to be a long summer...
      They had never even heard of pow spurs. And the one girls pony might be bred but she's not sure...
      I think a trip to schinders is in order.

      I think in going to have them go to the use book store in town and or amazon and buy GM's book and do some home work from that book which means I'm going to have to dig my well read copy out to make the assigments. And sign on to his clinics in the usef if they are still there.

      HEHE Im going to torture them but they are going to learn to ride and not pose.
      Friend of bar .ka


      • Hehe, sounds fun, bumknees. Assignments are a good idea. And maybe throw in some seems-like-fun-but-really-learning games on horse back. . Hope you enjoy working with the girls. Where did you find them?
        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
        ¯ Oscar Wilde


        • bumknees - at least they are young so it'll be easier for them to learn a new way of riding than if it were an adult. My one friend is trying to change her riding style to be more of a 'rider', had never heard of inside leg outside rein, didn't know what a driving seat was and why its not good, etc. I admire her for her determination to improve, especially because it is hard to change the habits of a lifetime!

          I would not encourage them to ride with spurs until you know they have a steady leg. I definitely agree with "games that teach." And the one absolutely needs a boot with a heel! You can find cheap paddock boots on dover, smartpak etc. I never spent more than $50 on them when I was still growing.

          Have fun! I bet you'll find you learn something about yourself too!
          "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
          "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey


          • Toby's lease sounds like a good thing for all involved, especially if the kids can learn from a more experienced horseperson. I never was able to do Pony Club, and wish that I'd had the opportunity. So much knowledge to be gained from the experience.

            Snickers and I are venturing into the show ring Saturday. The barn is having a local association rated show. We will see if Snick is able to school Friday, and show on Saturday and still be A-ok on Sunday. He's been doing great, enjoys getting to jump again, and just had hock injections. We're just going to do some 2'6" classes, but he's been sound jumping 3' in lessons and with my trainer. Even though I miss showing, I have enjoyed NOT having show bills! Enjoyed it so much that I'm not sure I ever want to do AA shows again. Maybe it's time to drop back, and act my age?
            It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

            www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


            • Good luck to everyone headed to shows this weekend! We are NOT prime time ready but getting there.

              DD had an amazing ride on the Connie x mare yesterday. Her form isn't the best (hey, she comes by this one sidedness pretty honestly!) but her sense of feel is quite amazing. I was so impressed with her...feeling guilty b/c I've been a little preoccupied with my own llama drama lately.

              We're out the door and in the saddle in half an hour. Remember that guy Hannibal from The A Team? He used to always close the show with a cigar and the comment, "I love it when a plan comes together." That's sort of how I've been feeling this week despite some set backs on the farming end of stuff. Things are starting to click.


              • Dewey – I am SO happy that your QH buddy will be staying in the barn! I know that it’s bittersweet for you, but it sounds like he’s going to have a lovely new “mom” with this little girl who will dote on him and feed him lots of treats. And you’ll still be there to give him love every day. What more could that sweet boy ask for.

                SuperD – How did Jack do at his Trial? You mentioned D’s topline… I understand how much “older” they can look when they lose their topline. Gabriel was that way for a while (still doesn’t have it totally back). But I’m sure D will get it back pretty quickly with these little workout sessions. Hooray for him being happy and sound! I’m sure he’s loving all of the attention.

                Bumknees – I don’t believe we ever had a Pony Club around me when I was young, and I didn’t realize I could be in 4H without a horse of my own. I feel like I really missed out by not doing that stuff as a kid. So, thank you from the bottom of my heart for being someone who can give that opportunity to the young people near you! I know it’ll be a big change compared to what they’re used to, but the things you’ll teach them will be invaluable! Keep us posted!

                Tiger – I believe you’ve dodged a bullet for now, just waiting until that Troublesome Trio gets themselves kicked out of; or leaves; the other facility, if you’re even going to go there at all. Very smart of you! There are days when we need to just relax on a ride, so I’m glad you got to have a ride on Sunday and it’s ok that you took it easy. Also, congrats with DD getting back into lessons!!!

                Event4Life – I’m SO HAPPY for you that you’re back in the saddle!!! I’m sure it feels amazing. Sorry Gabby didn’t have a good day the other day, though. …Eh, mares. I swear there are days when they just say, “To H@#$ with it!”

                Finzean – I am SUPER happy that the Amazon seems to have gotten past her PTSD from the ADS. WOO-HOO!!! Let’s raise a glass and drink to that! And CONGRATS to your DD! Sounds like she’ll go a long way with such a great sense of feel. That isn’t something some people can ever learn, so if she already has it, she’s leaps ahead of most.

                Pony4me – Congrats on venturing back into the show ring! As far as your question on whether to drop back, I’d say just do whatever makes you happiest. You know, these critters are just way too much money not to have fun with. Do you get enjoyment out of showing? If so, then show. Does it give you heart palpitations to show in the AA’s because of the cost? If so, then don’t show AA’s. It doesn’t really matter what level of competition you’re in, or even whether you’re competing at all. As long as you’re having fun, you’re doing something right.


                Well, we didn’t get to take any video this past weekend. Boo! It was pouring rain on Saturday, and then Sunday was Mother’s Day so my friend and I both had to travel to see our moms. Maybe this weekend.

                So, every year in mid-June I go on a 3-day trail ride up in the mountains. It’s hard-riding, a lot of almost straight up-and-down inclines, rocks, mud, creeks, etc. With everything else going on, time got away from me and I just realized late last week that I hadn’t decided who I was going to take! Last year I took Velvet and she was a total rock star. But with our recent issues and my confidence being so shaky, I decided I’ll take Gabriel this year (he was always my mount prior to last year). I feel bad because he’s just starting to get back into work, and we have less than 5 weeks to get fit for it. But I must say, he’s been impressing me with how well he’s coming back into work and how sound he’s been. So, I believe we can do it – I just have to be a stickler with myself to get out there and *ride*!

                So far this week, I went out Monday and Wednesday (last night). Monday I said, “I’m going to ride Gabe for an hour today.” Well, I hit *my* limit at the half hour mark! Granted, we were W/T/C, and I was torturing myself with the Trot sets from my lesson the other day, but really? I don’t understand how I made it an entire hour in the lesson, ‘cause I was pooped after 30 minutes! …Either way, he was a little warm but could’ve kept going for quite a while. So, I have more concern that I’m not going to be fit enough. I need to leg myself up – not Gabe! Lol

                That same night I also tacked up Rose and stuck her in the round pen for some W/T. I didn’t mount, but made sure she was going off of voice commands super well. Then I got her to stand still while I hopped up and down beside her as if I was going to vault up there (fat chance! I’m not limber enough). She was a little antsy at first, but it didn’t take much to get her to stand.

                Last night I broke out the surcingle and long lines for Gabriel. I took him on a walking tour of the entire farm “driving” him from the ground. And I had him Trot quite a bit (this means I had to run behind him, so hopefully this will help my fitness as well). Then I took Rose out for a handwalk/ground manners session since I haven’t done that in a while.

                I don’t know if I mentioned it before, but I’m really not doing much with Velvet at this point. I had a very good friend recommend not to keep working with her because it would be counter-productive to both Velvet and myself. And I agree. So, it’s better to let her be, and my friend at the barn will ride her as she has time. It’s kind of sad – and Velvet was begging for attention last night, so I did take her for a short handwalk just to get her out a little. But I *really* don’t feel comfortable riding her. So, I’m just focusing on keeping the baby in work and getting Gabriel ready for the trail ride.
                ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3


                • Classy- Thanks for asking! Jack was a super star and won his division on his dressage score of 30.5!! His best yet. He is so big and those rings are so small he usually doesn't do well in the dressage portion. That coupled with the fact that he is so augmentative!!!! His stadium and cross country were clean and he galloped well. He will be moving up at his next event in June, I am so excited . As for you and your mare, I say if you are not ready to ride her i wouldn't. I'm glad you are taking Gabe for your trail ride trip!! It sounds like fun!!!!!!

                  Finzean- Glad that the Amazon is getting over her issues!! Sounds like your DD is doing well YAY!!!

                  Bumknees- Good for you for taking these girls on! We had a club growing up but it wasn't that good and I lost interest in it pretty early on. I learned way more from my trainer and the grooms then I did through the program.

                  Tiger- How did DD do in her lesson????

                  I know I am missing people but hope all is well with everyone and you all are having good rides!!!


                  • Gosh, I have some catching up to do!!

                    superD - Congratulations - sounds like a really great outing!

                    Bumknees - wish I'd had an instructor like you as a kid!

                    Finzean - sounds like all is good - finally!

                    * * *
                    As for DD (thanks for asking superD) - what an adventure she had! First she wanted to go to the barn the night before to make sure she knew where everything was for the lesson horses (separate tack room - brushes, boots, etc) and wanted to halter and bridle a horse (Dodger was a star).

                    Lesson was at 5, she arrived at 4:25, got "K" the lesson horse, groomed and ready to saddle. K is not known for speed and a is a bit of challenge to push along, so the perfect choice for DD! I arrived at approx 6 and DD was still mounted and looked like she was comfortable and having fun - woohoo!!

                    Turns out W/T went really well; however, transition from trot to walk ended up in a canter! She made it halfway around the indoor and then slid off - she wasn't hurt and got right back on. Same thing happened in the other direction, but she stayed on and actually enjoyed it. Instructor said she has never seen that before - said she has to figure out what DD was doing and tell her other students to do the same. All in all DD had a blast and is looking forward to her next lesson. She's a bit sore - but is anxious to ride again - she will get on Dodger again for a little while tonight after I'm done. She would like to be jumping a bit by summer's end and instructor does not think that is an unrealistic goal. I am so proud of her!!

                    "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                    • Sorry - wanted to update everyone on my fellow boarder who got dumped a week ago Sunday. She took her gelding off the new supplement immediately and had noticed a change in his behavior during groundwork already. She rode for the first time, since the fall, on Tuesday night. Everyone else was down in the outdoor. Since I knew we would be riding at about the same time - I stayed in, so she would have some company. Her guy was really good and she thinks getting back to his old self. My guy spooked once (a car door closed!) and her guy did absolutely nothing - so a really good sign. I told her to borrow my vest anytime, thought it might help boost her confidence (I know it does me). We both ended up having good rides. I am so hoping they are back on track and have these episodes behind them!

                      "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                      • Pony4Me, awesome on trying the show. It's nice to be able to show at your home base. I wish I was ready, I'd come join you!! I often come to HC just to watch shows. Maybe I will drop by and try to figure out which one is you. Good luck. And I totally understand the trepidation with the cost of showing rated. I just stick with local showing these days. I have fun, my horse seems to enjoy it, and I don't break the bank.

                        Finzean, sounds like your DD is doing very well! Awesome. And hope your farming is coming along as well. Speaking of farmers, I have a guy with his two little daughters out back right now shoveling manure into their truckbed for their garden. I like to do this every spring. My pile is just about gone! Yay!

                        Classy, I think it's a good idea for you not to ride Velvet right now. Keep doing some ground work so she remembers her manners, but no need to ride. I agree sometimes it can be counter productive. And that's okay that you make that decision. It's the right one for you. (I'm thinking, anyway!) Glad Gabe will be getting to go on a fun trail ride. You will have fun with him and not worry about him doing something silly. I think five weeks will be okay for getting him in shape.

                        I totally relate to being in less-then-perfect shape as a rider!! I was riding Nessie (new girls name that sort of stuck) the other day, and after 20 minutes I was winded. I hate that. Just last year I was doing hour-long jumper lessons and now I can hardly TROT. It's disgusting. I went out yesterday and bought a used exercise bike! I rode it this morning, and boy, it's going to take some time to get in shape. But I'm starting at least.

                        Tiger, how old is your daughter? Glad she didn't have a negative reaction to sliding off! That's great. A good positive attitude is so important! Also glad your fellow boarder is doing well enough to ride, and that her horse is getting back to his old self. I think she may have found the problem with that supplement.


                        I still need to get Chico's hocks done. I rode him one more time to test him and he did beautiful trot work with extensions and collection, just awesome. Lateral work, no problem. I cantered to the right a few laps, then cantered left. After half a lap to the left he started bucking again. So I immediately stopped. I wanted to test him because he just had gotten his Pentosan injection a few days prior. But he's still not feeling good, so I will not do anything till I get his hocks done and hopefully that's what it is. I will ask the vet. I need to make an appointment. I had called my two different vets to prices and found one of them was 50 dollars cheaper, and well, every penny counts! So I'll go with the cheaper one since I've used both vets often and I like them both.

                        Rode Nessie on Tuesday and she was really pretty good. I feel like I don't yet trust her 100% since she's still new, but every ride is getting better. I don't have the fitness I need yet, so I don't trust MYSELF yet either. If she were to do something silly, not sure I have the reflexes and fitness to right a situation. She did do a spooky hop at the canter, but it was easy to deal with and she calmed right down. That helps me, knowing it was easy to handle. I had my DH take a short video with my cell camera since I haven't yet seen myself on her. So I will post the link. I am riding with long stirrups still since my left ankle is still so stiff. When I shorten the stirrups I tend to tip to the good side. So you will see crappy ankle flexion (as in NONE) in the video. But I think she is coming along. She's pretty cute. The video really makes me realize how much I need to get exercising!!!! But I'll get there. Hopefully this link will work. Let me know if it does not. It's nothing special, just me riding my new pony. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6slf5pbxe...185313_233.mp4

                        Hope you all have a great rest of the week!!!
                        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                        ¯ Oscar Wilde


                        • Paradox - DD just turned 20! (Good god where does the time go?!)
                          Nice video - "Nessie" is very cute!

                          "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                          • Tiger, time does fly, doesn't it? Glad your daughter is riding. It really is something special you can share.

                            Thanks, I think Nessie's cute, too. She really is actually a pretty quite TB, which I love. I think we'll do well together once we click! (Too bad Nessie sounds like Loch Ness monster!)
                            “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                            ¯ Oscar Wilde


                            • Paradox....c'mon down if it's not pouring down rain. I think we're in the 2'6" Special Hunter division b/c I'm not interested in any MTHJA points, and everyone else who's in Modified or Pre-Child/Adult is. And we're not doing the Hunter Derby, but that class is always fun to watch.

                              Just saw the video of your new girl. She's very cute!
                              It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

                              www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


                              • Thanks guys.
                                I never had any plans of being a teacher/instructor/what ever so this may be interesting.
                                I don't plan on them using the pow's but instead having them in their bag if tricks like draw reins know how to use them but not need them. kwim Like draw reins. Ive had draw reins (same set) since 1980 and I can count on one hand how many times counting the time I was taught to use them and have fingers left over.
                                I think Im going to have them both start with basic dressage. you know having to get the horse moving forward properly, and basic movements etc. Maybe training level test 1. As into tests seem to be w/t and they are both beyond w/t.
                                And Jumping probably working up to 2' I think is how high they are expected to do at the fair. And dispite the area off the forehand as the QH's appear to do. Maybe I should have them jump higher just because the rule goes always school higher at home than what you show.
                                Friend of bar .ka


                                • Haven't been on this thread for a long, long time, but wanted to give you all an update. Hope you are all doing well, your horses are happy, and you're all in good health!

                                  Most recent barn is now past after one year. After nightmare barn from last year, moved to 24/7 turnout in a lovely location with a private barn owner. We had a visiting trainer who was only around in the good weather.

                                  Around Feb, I noticed my horse, B (green, now 10yo OTTB) was really getting ribby. Mentioned it to recent BO. As many other things - you could never mention anything that might ever be construed as criticism, even though she is a novice rider/horse owner - she got her nose bent out of joint. Bent over backwards to try to accommodate the issue - bought a Nibble Net, offered to pay extra for the hay even though he had "unlimited" on the contract. "A friend told her" all horses only need enough hay to eat the first hour after each feeding.

                                  In the meantime, she bought 2 sight unseen, non-vetted green, young ISH from a large stable, pasture setting, because BO is now going to train green horses. Because they were ribby, she decided my horse, the only paying boarder (although pasture boarded paid a rate comparable to local full board because I thought he was being well cared for), should be shoved in together with these fillies in another pasture, in knee deep mud, so she could throw them all "unlimited hay", which was an increase up to 1/2 bale a day each. Told me she'd reverse it if I didn't like the arrangement. Within 2 days it was a nightmare, I asked he be returned to his original paddock, and then she went back on her word.

                                  After a dogged search, found his new barn and was moved within 2 weeks, and am finally where I should have been all along. The bad - over an hour from home. The good - everything else!

                                  My horse is so darn happy. The new barn is a dressage/HJ barn, and I'm working with the dressage trainer, as she's the manager, and an ex groom for an exceptional Grand Prix rider. My horse is back to stall board, but loads of turnout, gets tons of hay, and we're doing the full training package, so she's riding him as well. She has figured out all the quirks the last two places couldn't touch. Finally, after taking him off the track, being with my friend for a year and a half, and a year and a half of my punting with the 2 local barns that weren't exactly "professional" , I'm going to have a legitimate, happy, handsome, really-and-truly trained horse!

                                  I'm having COTH withdrawal, because I don't have to post anymore with issues from whacko trainers/BOs! Just pinching myself that it is as good as it is. And so we'll soon be able to figure out the best job for my guy.

                                  Just wanted to let you all know, in case anyone wondered whatever happened. His progress was going so slowly the last 6 months, and I was treading water for so long, I just was frustrated, and tired of complaining. Even writing the above feels foreign because I'm so happy to have found him a great place - and hoping I never have to complain again!

                                  PS - Oh, and at this barn, they recognize that I do sorta kinda really do know how to ride.
                                  But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. H.C.Anderson


                                  • Glad the new barn worked out Peg. It's such a relief when your horse is in a place where competent people are in charge. Too bad it's so far from home, but at least you don't worry about him all the time.

                                    Snickers and I survived our first show back after his September 2011 injury. He was asleep for the warm up before the show. He tried to sleep during his first jumping class, and finally woke up towards the end. By the time we entered the ring for the second jumping class, he remembered his job description and we had a very good round. I don't know if we place, because it was one of those "special hunter" divisions that runs all day at various heights, and pins at the end of the show. Our placing would depend on how well all of the others did, but I was very happy, and so was my trainer. The flat class wasn't so great because he broke from the canter briefly, so we have to work on that. Transitions were all good, but he just needs to collect and package better. Tomorrow I get to ride him and see if he really did survive his show ring experience.
                                    It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

                                    www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


                                    • CVpeg, sounds like you are doing quite well. I'm happy for you. Keep in touch letting us know how you are doing.

                                      Pony4me, good job at your show!! I hope Snickers is feeling just as well today. Let us know. I ended up having to go to a function/picnic with my husband. Maybe you can let me know when you are riding some day and I will just come out and meet you! I'm only about ten minutes away from Hunter's Court. I'd love to meet you and your pony.

                                      Hope everyone else is having a great weekend.
                                      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                      ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                      • Today's update....Snick trotted sound both ways, we won the class he was awake for, and also got reserve champion for the division.

                                        Paradox, we have a really fun Tuesday evening 5:30 adult group lesson, and an equally fun Saturday morning 9:30 lesson if you'd like to come over. We always enjoy meeting new people!
                                        It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

                                        www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


                                        • Woohoo, pony4me! Glad Snick is sound. That's great!! And wonderful placings. Icing on the cake.

                                          I would love to come watch one of your Tuesday lessons. I would love to come out tomorrow. I have a deposition at 1:00, and I never know how long they will last, but if the attorneys are not long winded, hopefully I will make it to watch and say hello. If you see a lost looking 40-something with blonde hair, that's probably me.


                                          How was everyone's weekend? Quiet here.
                                          “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                          ¯ Oscar Wilde