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  • Originally posted by theblondejumper View Post
    Hey everyone is 23 "adult" enough to join the group? I'm not riding currently but really hoping to get all of my ducks lined up in a row (i.e. start utilizing the carsharing service I joined!) so that I can start riding SOON.

    Possibly going to start helping out at a local farm too...I haven't sat on a horse for four years and I miss it terribly....
    You bet! Welcome!!
    http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

    "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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    • Welcome, theblondejumper (which may soon be shortened to TBJ) Of course you're never too young. If you are comfortable here, join right in! Hope you find a horse to ride soon.

      Finzean, I had a mare who was not really spooky. We took her on a trail ride and four moutain bikes came crashing down the path from the opposite direction through a creek. She stood and looked at them. And moved on. I think half an hour later she had a giant spook at a big leaf (still connected to the plant). Sheesh. Those are the ones you just don't expect.

      souloud, I think you are going to have a very nice boy! He is so cute.

      NJR, I like how your trainer made you do direction changes and mix it up to out smart the horse. And it probably helped that he (she?) didn't give you much time to think about it, just canter. Sometimes that's the best way. Glad you ended up with a great lesson. That's awesome. And I agree with you, you have to have a ground person to fix those faults that we all get into. Or at least a competent ground person. Good for you.

      Tiger Horse, I hope the show goes!
      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
      ¯ Oscar Wilde

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      • Thanks y'all!

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        • Finzean - Thank god my boss has meetings this morning. I really didn't want to have to explain why I was frantically cleaning coffee spit off my keyboard and giggling like a lunatic about your mason jar of home brew! I'm sorry the Amazon still isn't mentally settled, but I'm glad they're all physically ok. How's the college kid holding up?

          soloud - He's such a cutie! He's got what I like to call 'puppy face,' where they do the big baby puppy eyes at you and you can't say no to anything, good thing I don't own him or he'd be ready to explode from all the cookies!

          TBJ - welcome!

          zacdos - Yay!!! It's such a good feeling when you know you've finally found the right place. Like buying a house, only better.

          Tiger - Hopefully it's not cancelled, and then (if you forget the test) you can use one of my favorite Soviet jokes which goes like this: There was a sporting event with only the US and the USSR competing, the US wins. Soviet newspaper headline 'USSR comes in second, America, second to last.'

          NJR - Awesome! And I second Paradox, the changes of direction seem like a good idea, neither of you get a chance to second guess yourselves. I'm kind of glad I'm not the only one having issues sitting up, I seem to be curling up into a ball a lot lately.

          Dreamin - sorry the show didn't go as well as you hoped, especially the human part (that whole judge\awards thing is just screwy). My best friend had a horse like that growing up, a very hot little bay arab. She took him to a conformation class (rode in from about 7 miles away and untacked him), and instead of standing still he jigged in place the whole time, and when she got after him he reared up and then fell over backward. And that was the first and last show she ever did. He ended up being a great endurance horse though.

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          • Originally posted by theblondejumper View Post
            Hey everyone is 23 "adult" enough to join the group? I'm not riding currently but really hoping to get all of my ducks lined up in a row (i.e. start utilizing the carsharing service I joined!) so that I can start riding SOON.

            Possibly going to start helping out at a local farm too...I haven't sat on a horse for four years and I miss it terribly....
            Yay a "re-rider" ready to saddle up again!

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            • NJR - excellent news!

              Button - oh, yea, the college kid...the one with the injuries! As this is her first horse "accident" she has had to endure the telling and re-telling of her injuries. She even went to the doctor and had some xrays done since she felt guilty about calling in sick to work the day after the unauthorized dismount. I laughed at her as the running joke continues to be the listing of all my old injuries I never went to the doc for and am now plagued with every time it rains or the temp drops. College Kid is doing quite well, though....just renaming all the shades of purple & yellow she's finding in her healing bruises.

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              • Blip on the radar - maybe it's the weather, maybe I just need a change. There are certain aspects of the boarding facility I am at that I love - my guy is comfortable there, it's close to home (10 min), decent enough trainers & facilities. Things I don't like - overall the place is starting to look pretty dumpy. Paddock fencing needs some repair, manure pile is huge (it's taking over the parking lot) and last but not least, I am buying my own hay for his nightly "extra" flake. Board increased by $25 in Feb and a $25 hay surcharge for the months of Feb, March and April was assessed. (Sometimes the hay barn is open and you can get an extra flake, but it's frowned upon and I like to know my guy has something in front of him at night.) In addition to that, if I want him to go out in the field this summer, that's an extra $25/month. The field is not in good shape, so I don't imagine the grass will last more than a month or so.
                Granted, it's not so much about the grass as it is that he gets to be with a herd.

                Love most of my barn mates but find myself getting ticked at my trainer. She has been kind of snarky lately. When I mentioned maybe I should wait and show at an event in June, she said it was rated and acted like I didn't belong there. Maybe I'm just being over sensitive, I don't know. I guess lately I feel like I'm being nickled and dimed to death.

                There is a facility about 20 min away that sounds fantastic - maybe I need to go and take a peek . . . board is a bit more, but it sounds like there is no extra charge for pasture and hay is fed three times a day . . . sorry, I think I just needed to vent . . .
                http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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                • Tiger Horse, I think you should at least go and look at the other facility. Then you have something to compare. I hate the nickle and dime stuff. But add it all up and compare to the other place(s) and see what you come up with. 20 minutes is not too bad!

                  Button, I have the same question! When all goes wrong, why the heck do we curl into a fetal position when we KNOW we need to sit up and sit back. That's usually when I have my worst falls, horse does something silly, I roll forward. I know I need to sit back, but do I? Nope. I am leaning forward until I have nowhere to go but off the shoulder onto the ground.
                  “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                  ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                  • Finzean - lol glad she's healing up!

                    Tiger - I know there's a drought going on and the price of hay has gone way up, but that's not really breaking news. You're paying board so he gets whatever hay he needs, end of story, especially since there's now a hay surcharge. I also think you should look at the other place, I tried to start re-riding at a place that had me in a ring with 10 other kids/adults in the ring with one trainer for my "lesson," it was horrid. Even though my current barn is 20 minutes away/$50 per lesson, it's absolutly worth it and I'm so happy there (happy enough that I walked away from a very well paid job offer in another state and told my husband that we're never moving unless the trainer retires). At the end of the day you and your guy have to be happy. Not sure what to say about your trainer, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, perhaps she's had some kind of personal set back?

                    Paradox - I know right!!! The funny thing is that my leg stays right at the girth, heels down, but my shoulders curl forward and my chest ends up hovering above the neck. Last month it was "if you don't close your fingers and keep them closed I'm going to tape them shut!" Now all I seem to hear is "Sit up! Sit up! Sit up! When you lean forward he's going to go faster! What do you think is going to happen if you do that on an OTTB like you want to get?" Although I think some of it has to do with weakness. I have to keep them framed up now and my back gets so tired.

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                    • Tiger Horse - I'm not boarding atm so a slightly different situation, but I could not be happier that I made the switch to my new place even if its a 5-10 minute further drive. It is 100% worth it and I have no regrets, so don't let the distance put you off! Horses/boarding them is so expensive that if you are not enjoying it for whatever reason, at least look at other places! The hay surcharge would really bug me - I'm sorry, but hay is not an "option" it is a "necessity" so therefore should be included in the price of board. Horses need hay at night as well as during the day! You should not have to bring your own in, unless you want to feed a different type than the barn feeds for whatever reason.

                      Finzean - Alpacas are evil! I'm glad the Amazon is improving and college girl is okay. I got called a college girl by my trainer today, and I still haven't decided whether to take it as an insult or compliment lol. FWIW, I'm 25 and in grad school.

                      NJR - Trainers make sooo much difference. I think it is so important to have that extra eye on the ground because you can't see/feel everything on your own!


                      So the latest in Event4Life riding land....I had my lesson on Tues AM. It went better than last time! I'm still driving with my seat going into canter though, ugh...but at least I'm sitting more quietly once we're in canter, especially when trainer tells me to go into a half seat. She's assigned me no stirrup work next time I ride crabby appy (tomorrow) because despite her crabbiness, the appy does have really smooth gaits, especially for a chunky pony. A I rode trainers gaited (TWH) trail horse just for fun because I've never ridden anything gaited. That was SO COOL!!

                      Today trainer got a new horse in (actually came in last night) so I got to spend over an hour currying her yak like coat off and then pulling her mane. It was so nice to get some horsey time on the ground. I've really missed that "connection" since I've been riding so many! "Summer" is a dun QH and she is extremely cute with a personality to match. Needless to say, I'm in love and have been dreaming about buying her all day despite the fact she's the opposite of what I'll be looking for and I am in no place to buy a horse whatsoever. uggggghhhh. I've just added another to my "field of dreams." She was surprisingly great under saddle given she's out of work and has just been a trail horse till now. I'm crossing my fingers she'll work out as a camp horse so we'll at least be able to keep her.
                      "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                      "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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                      • So I had a lesson this evening, I think it went well, although trainer commented at the end that it's going to take him ages to get me jumping big because I still get nervous. I responded with (in a jovial manner of course) 'the gymnastic I just did scared the sh!t out of me, but I did it so shove it.' It did scare me, my bad crash was over a gymnastic. This one was a one stride combo, but instead of the one stride there's a ground pole in the middle, so it's like a weird little bounce. I also managed a supersized x-rail (center was around 2'3") so I think it was a good day. I'll get there eventually

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                        • Originally posted by Button View Post
                          So I had a lesson this evening, I think it went well, although trainer commented at the end that it's going to take him ages to get me jumping big because I still get nervous. I responded with (in a jovial manner of course) 'the gymnastic I just did scared the sh!t out of me, but I did it so shove it.' It did scare me, my bad crash was over a gymnastic. This one was a one stride combo, but instead of the one stride there's a ground pole in the middle, so it's like a weird little bounce. I also managed a supersized x-rail (center was around 2'3") so I think it was a good day. I'll get there eventually
                          As a nervous rider, I have learned to love gymnastics especially while learning to jump bigger fences. For me my nervousness comes from riding too many horses who add or prop and don't listen and move up to the jumps...so I get really awkward jumps. Gymnastics force the horse to jump "normally" so it's easier to ride, and unless it's a very long gymnastic, it's difficult to mess up the striding so for me, riding is easier.

                          You'll get more confident as you have successes. I personally am loving having a young horse right now because everything he does correctly makes me feel that I'm a GOOD rider, which I was having a lot of trouble with in lessons. I may have some bad habits (rounding in the shoulders and leaning forward...always have had this habit) but I'm not a bad RIDER, despite some people at the new barn who have made me feel a little dumb recently
                          Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                          you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.

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                          • Gymnastics are why I ride dressage. I like to keep all four hooves on the ground, thanks.
                            Button: the leaning forward is a hold over from my hunter days many moons ago, when we all rode like that. (I'm talking 30 years ago.) It's so ingrained that if anything goes wrong, I lean. It's getting better with constant correction, but it still happens.
                            Tiger Horse: go look at the other place...won't hurt, right? I also agree that if they put a hay surcharge on, that should mean that it covers whatever hay the horse requires. The last place I was at I had to supply grain, amongst other things, even though I was paying full board. Really did seem "nickle and diming" and I resented it. I moved back to my old barn and although it isn't as fancy, you know what you're paying for and that they are getting it.

                            NJR
                            Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.

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                            • Originally posted by Button View Post

                              Paradox - I know right!!! The funny thing is that my leg stays right at the girth, heels down, but my shoulders curl forward and my chest ends up hovering above the neck. Last month it was "if you don't close your fingers and keep them closed I'm going to tape them shut!" Now all I seem to hear is "Sit up! Sit up! Sit up! When you lean forward he's going to go faster! What do you think is going to happen if you do that on an OTTB like you want to get?" Although I think some of it has to do with weakness. I have to keep them framed up now and my back gets so tired.
                              I started doing pilates awhile back and it is very helpful with core strength. I've learned that a sore back usually equals a disengaged core for me. Of course regardless of that my default position used to be to lean forward, which my trainer said is one of the most common things riders do. Finally I stopped it, but I will usually revert when I am nervous and she will say, "you're doing your turtle impression on me again. Lean back!"

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                              • Wow have I ever gotten behind! I’m sorry I’m going to skip the individual replies, but I’m reading and keeping tabs on everyone. Thanks for the awesome pics of the cute horses Soloud and Paradox! And I’m sorry to hear some show experiences weren’t all they were cracked up to be here lately, but just remember that the first couple of shows of the season are that way for a *lot* of people – it’s like the horses need to be reminded that they don’t die when they go visiting other places.

                                So far no news on the sales front. I’ve had both Velvet and Rose posted on a website for a week or two now. They’re getting a fair amount of “hits” but nobody has contacted me yet. I don’t know a darn thing about selling a horse, so hopefully I worded stuff right. I guess I just have to wait it out.

                                On Saturday I rode Gabriel w/t/c in the big outdoor arena and did some good sitting trot work. I have to work on it still – I want to collapse my upper body instead of sitting tall. But that’ll come with time and practice I guess. Then my friend rode Velvet w/t/c in the indoor and I hopped on for more w/t with her. I was surprised I even had the guts to get on her at all. Maybe I’m getting a little confidence back – albeit very shaky. I almost wanted to get on Rose, but I’m not quite there yet.

                                ...I have been very upset recently by some very pushy and opinionated people who seem to have odd, selfish agendas that I am not privvy to. It’s such a shame that the horse community tends to be smallish around here, so I don’t know how exactly to separate myself from them and/or to quiet their opinions. One person thought it was a great idea to sell Velvet and get myself a confidence-builder, then a week later when I mentioned I had her posted for sale, changed her story completely and thinks it’s terrible for me to be “giving up on her” and selling her. Wtf??? Another person is telling everyone and their brother that my Gabriel is a “hateful, dangerous animal” – there is a long, drawn-out backstory, but the nutshell version is that I used to board my 3 there. She got too many animals and started having to do 3-4 hours of turnout per group instead of the 8-9 they originally had there. Gabriel is one of those horses that doesn’t do well without a lot of turnout. I requested more, but she wouldn’t do it. So, one day when she tried to bring them back in, Gabriel kept trying to herd the girls back out. I can imagine he may’ve been being kind of a pushy a-hole, ‘cause he can be when he’s upset, but he is NOT dangerous or hateful. She told me about it, I explained it’s because he’s not getting enough turn-out, and she dismissed it and still would not up their turn-out. Now that I’ve moved them, she’s telling everyone how horrible and dangerous he is. I don’t understand what the deal is, and it *really* hurts me to think she’s saying such things about my heart horse. Gah – some people!
                                ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                                The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                                4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3

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                                • twelvebelles, I totally agree with you about it being a strength and fitness thing. When I'm fit, I do much better. Right now I am not as fit, and I know I cannot get back into proper position as easily as I used to. Another reason to get serious about my fitness/diet. ACK. But I do need to work on my core. When I did have a few bad falls a few years back I pitched forward when my horse was crowhopping (not Chico, previous horse) and when I got forward, my brain said sit back but my body didn't listen! Then I lost a bunch of weight and got fit and did much better. And got Chico (knock on wood, I've never fallen off him). But then I broke my ankle and my fitness is gone again. Sigh.

                                  Classy, that sucks. People are just mean, and I know it's hard, but you kind of just have to ignore them. You can't change them, so just try to tune them out. People who KNOW you and KNOW your horses won't listen anyway. Good luck with your ads! If you want to contact me (PM) about your ad, I've had good luck selling and could look your ad over if you want. If not, that's okay, too! I wish you the best of luck. And glad to hear you're getting some confidence back. That's great!!! Takes a while, but who cares!
                                  “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                  ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                                  • Classy--

                                    That's the horseworld. Two people, three opinions, depending on who they're giving them to.

                                    Someone at the barn inadvertently treated me like a child the other day and it really got to me. I bought a bridle for new horse that did not fit, and another boarder offered to loan me a spare of hers. She was standing in the doorway behind us and going in and out of the aisle, and new horse is a little bit bad about standing. So he was pulling towards the door she was moving in and out of trying to follow her. She rushed over to take the other bridle and the horse from me, and it's not like I don't know how to bridle a horse. Yes the reins for the second bridle were not over the neck, because the first set were and I didn't want to tangle them. Then she asked me if I wanted the second bridle's reins buckled, like I was a dumba** for undoing them (again, because they were tangled in the other bridle).

                                    I don't know why it bugged me so much, but it did. I'm not stupid. I've been riding for 15 years. I am rusty on some things because I haven't owned one in about 5 years. But it's coming back to me and I'm completely fine and I will ask for help when I need it, but I feel like everyone at this barn thinks I'm a total newbie.
                                    Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                                    you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.

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                                    • Thanks for everyone's input! The hay thing really has me peeved - my guy is a hard keeper and I really like to have hay in front of him all the time - which is just an extra flake or two a day, not an unreasonable request, esp with the surcharge.

                                      The place I am considering is actually the barn where the schooling show will be held - so, I can check it out while I'm there (or if the show is cancelled, I'll just pop in).

                                      As for my trainer - well, she runs hot and cold, some days we are best friends, other days not so much. Figured out that she and her daughter are going to the show in June and they probably don't want to be bothered with having a "student" along to babysit. She is in a tough personal relationship, so I'm sure that wears on her as well. Still, I am a paying client and do expect a certain amount of common courtesy.

                                      Classy - sorry about the untrue rumors - what is it with "horse" people?!
                                      http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                                      "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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                                      • Thanks so much for the kind words, guys. What is it with “horse” people is right! I mean, there are a lot of great horse people out there (just take you guys for example), but there are plenty of crazies, too. And sometimes, I feel like the crazies have me surrounded, a la the Alpaca Death Squad!!!

                                        Paradox – Thank you so much. You have a PM.

                                        Soloud – What is it with people??? I mean, I’m sure the lady was just trying to be helpful or whatever, but seriously??? I completely understand what you’re describing, and to me, that in no way sounds like it was a dangerous situation that required her to jump in and “save the day.” Ugh – how entirely frustrating. …I guess at least you know they want to help, if that’s any comfort. But I understand how being treated like a child can feel very demeaning.

                                        Tiger – Yeah, hay is non-negotiable for me. The horses need it – especially a hard keeping horse. I can’t assume anything, and maybe the barn you’re at just has a poor financial management system that is causing them to start nickel-and-diming, but that isn’t fair to you as a full-care boarder. I would at least go have a look at the other barn and see what they have to offer. If you don’t know the other boarders there, try to speak with a few of them to be sure you’d fit in ok. Good luck!
                                        ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                                        The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                                        4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3

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                                        • Classy, try and ignore them. I know it's easier said than done, but you are doing what's right for them and for you so don't pay them any attention. I'll never understand how some people are wired, but then again, they may say the same thing about me.

                                          I'm glad you had good rides on Gabriel and Velvet. It's amazing how much that helps

                                          Soloud - I'm treated like that all the time. lol I'm a complete newb and sometimes I do get tired of hearing the same thing over and over and being treated like I don't know anything. I'll be the first to admit I don't know much, but I do know to get one saddled for pities sake! I hope this week goes much better for you.

                                          Tiger - hope you like the barn. Hay is a necessity for a hard keeper, and you're paying for it.

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