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  • Button, first and foremost, make sure the horse is sound. I had an OTTB with a low, cold bow, and he never took a bad step. Definitely have a vet check it for you if you're interested in the horse. Things to consider....how old is the horse? If you outgrow him, is he young enough to sell. Bowed horses are harder to sell, though, even if sound. Something to consider. Also, if you are just newly getting into jumpers (or after lots of time off), you may still enjoy the horse. You can ride a slower pace and work on great turns and still do very well with this horse. That being said, if you want to do jumpers 3' and under you will be competing against the kids that just run their horses and ponies like crazy. Often times they win, but they are not learning how to ride nor could they ride that same horse at higher jumps. So, those are few things to consider. The price would have to be very good for me to consider the horse if my intention was to try to resell later. Too many sound OTTBs out there to compete with. Good luck!!
    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
    ¯ Oscar Wilde

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    • Thanks guys for your jingles. Jack is happy and knocking the barn down trying to get some one to feed him!! He has had only a few BM and hasn't touched his water. The oil hasn't shown up yet. The vet said we could give him minimal food to try to get his gut moving a little quicker. she is not too worried because he is so darn happy and alert.
      Does anyone have any tricks to get him to drink?? We have given him electrolytes, warm water, flavored water the works. I even poured gatorade into my hand for him to drink- this he did lick but I suspect it was more due to the fact that I had just given my other horse an apple.
      I did give him an handful of alfalfa/timothy pellets mixed with about 1/2 of a small ( bathing size ) bucket of hot water, let it sit , then mixed it up and dumped into his feed bucket and he did drink that up. Ugh he is being so difficult!! I know he really isn't but I just wish he would drink.

      Button- Jack has a old low bow in his front leg. I'm not sure he really got any attention and or care for it besides being chucked into a field for 3 yrs. He hasn't had any problems with it and he events. I just had the vet ultrasound it when I bought him, just to be sure. I say if he fits your want list and is a good guy I would just have the vet ultrasound it during your PPE and see what he thinks.

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      • SuperD, can you soak his hay? He would get some water that way.
        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
        ¯ Oscar Wilde

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        • Paradox - I'm not sure about reselling, if DH likes him he would go on to being the DH's trail mount once I out grow him. If not, then he would probably be for sale in 2 years or so, by which point he would be 12 (according to the Jockey Club look-up he was born 29 Jan 2003). I have no interest in competing at the 3ft level with the crazy children, if I commit to jumpers then I want to go low A/O and higher (I'm not sure why, I just have this idea fixed in my head that that's how it's gonna be).

          superD - there will definitely be an ultrasound, if it's not clear I'm not touching him. He fits my want list perfectly (size, price, jumping style, not a generic-looking bay that would blend in during an eq class, personality of a saint) except that he's a hunter not a jumper. The way hunters are judged seriously bugs me.

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          • Okay, Button. After reading your posts, I think if he is sound and a good price, I would go for it! Keep us posted. And I will enjoy reading about your progress. I, too, am trying to get back to showing 3'6". I have my first lesson in 5 months scheduled for Saturday. (Broken ankle issue.). I have a feeling it will be tough starting over again.
            “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
            ¯ Oscar Wilde

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            • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
              Okay, Button. After reading your posts, I think if he is sound and a good price, I would go for it! Keep us posted. And I will enjoy reading about your progress. I, too, am trying to get back to showing 3'6". I have my first lesson in 5 months scheduled for Saturday. (Broken ankle issue.). I have a feeling it will be tough starting over again.
              Thanks for the advice, I love his personality, he's such a lover. Hopefully he vets out sound in a few months when we're both ready to go. I bet it won't be so bad (your lesson) is the ankle pretty stiff?

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              • Well, I finally had a good weekend, and I feel like I’m on the upswing with all the stuff that’s been going on recently. We’re nowhere near over the hump, but I feel a little better, anyway.

                Saturday I met my friend at the barn and rode her little coming 3 year old filly Walk/Trot. She was quite happy with how I rode her and complimented how nicely I had her going. But really, she’s just a super little filly who’s going to rock it in the Hunter ring one day. Here is a photo from the ride. I was riding in my friend’s saddle – she’s a Dressage Queen, so she had the leathers at that length, and please excuse the bald spots on the filly. That poor girl had a raging case of rain rot when my friend got her. She’s healing slowly, but has patches of hair missing right now.

                I also rode Velvet that day. She was a total superstar – I adore her. We did Walk/Trot/Canter, but I was only brave enough to Canter on the right lead (her better lead) that day. I sort of kicked myself later for not doing left lead, but I was almost freaking out at the time. It was all I could do to make myself do right lead. But now I’ve had another good experience with it – that can only help, right?

                Erin got on little Rose on Saturday, too, but Rose was being a goober again. I hate to admit it, but I am pretty certain at this point she has hit the “teenage rebellion” stage. She didn’t do anything dangerous this weekend, but was making it known she *really* would prefer to be a pasture puff, TYVM. She wouldn’t stand for Erin to mount – kept swinging away from the mounting block when she’d step up on it. So, we eventually put her in a corner and Erin mounted. Then we walked around (I lead her via a hand on the bridle) and she was again obstinant. She’d walk a few yards, then stop and throw her head up. Then walk a few yards and stop and do the same thing. Ugh. Erin started putting a lot of leg on toward the end, which did keep her going fairly well.

                Sunday I rode Gabriel Walk/Trot. I wanted to Canter him, but he was tired after 25 minutes of W/T, so I didn’t want to push it and have him get injured or something. He’s almost 20 and has been barely worked the last 3 years. He needs time to get strong before I even think about trying it.

                Erin also got on Rose Sunday. This time, Erin wanted to lunge her with the tack on first. I let Erin do it, but going left Rose kept ducking in and stopping. So, I took over. She tried to do it with me, too, so I got a lunge whip and made her *go dammit* - (when I say forward, you go forward!). Once we got over that hurdle, Erin still wanted to ride her so we stuck her in the corner again and Erin got on. As green horses tend to do sometimes, Rose kind of lost her balance as Erin got on this time and knocked her leg into the mounting block, which scared her. Thankfully she isn’t a spooky horse. She just took a step over and stopped, giving it the hairy eyeball. Erin said Rose was *very* tense, so we just stood there until she finally, dropped her head, blew out, and relaxed. It took about 15 minutes. Then Erin got off and we called it a “win” because Rose stood there like a champ that whole time (she’s a very wiggly horse, so that was awesome of her).

                Great weekend for riding, and I feel like Rose is making progress, even if we have to take one step backward for every two steps forward.

                I’ll try to catch up with everyone else’s posts later on today. Thanks for letting me post all these huge long stories about my horsey adventures. Obviously, it’s my joy in life.
                ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3

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                • Button, the ankle is feeling much better, but we are both out of shape! I've been riding, but we ate not to the point I wish we were. We'll have to keep the lesson simple.

                  Classy, glad you were able to have some good rides. And half a canter is great. Next time you will get both sides. I think you are ready! I'm glad you are getting help with the baby.
                  “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                  ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                  • Now to catch up with everyone else...

                    Thank you to everyone for the kind words about teenagers and getting through those years. I really, *really* appreciate it. I feel like the next few years are going to be an uphill battle, but I need to just take a deep breath and try not to let it get to me too much. :-P

                    Quietann – those photos are *gorgeous*!!! Thank you for sharing!

                    SuperD – I’ve been thinking of you and Jack. I’m glad to hear he’s so happy, even if he’s upset he isn’t getting fed. Ugh – colic is horrible. I am *so* glad Jack had a guardian angel looking over him that night in the form of that young girl. Kudos to her! As far as getting him to drink, I was going to suggest a very similar thing to what you’ve already done; put some good tasting stuff into hot water to create a “mash” of sorts, then feed that to him. He’ll have to slurp up the water along with the mash. At a Dressage barn I used to work at, they’d do a bran mash supper every Sunday, adding chopped apples and other “goodies” for extra flavor.

                    Stolen Virtue – Congrats on getting back to riding regularly! YAY! Your muscles will get back into it slowly but surely. What a superstar baby you have! I can’t fault him at all for getting scared by the branch falling – that’s usually a pretty loud noise.

                    BITSA – Welcome! We’re happy to have you here. I’m so glad you found your way back to horses! Take your time and find *the right* horse for you. You’ll so thank yourself later.

                    Tiger Horse – Congrats on the amazing lesson! I’m not sure how you could change instructors easily except to do something like Dewey and Event4Life mentioned.

                    Event4Life – I hope your lesson was awesome!!! Let us know how it went.

                    ParadoxFarm - Best of luck with your lesson! I know you'll have a great time. And thank you for the words of encouragement with cantering and all. It's my kryptonite, but every good experience I have will help me be less and less afraid of it next time.
                    ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                    The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                    4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3

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                    • I am frustrated

                      I am re riding after about 40 years. I am half leasing a horse and taking lessons once week. I rode a lot and studied dressage. My problem is with my trainer who I clicked with at first and thought this was going to be a great experience but now I am not too sure. I started lessons on Feb 6 and all we have done until a couple weeks ago is practice liberty and if I mentioned riding the trainer got upset. Weekend before last my leg started hurting so she said I have to ride. Last week my lesson consisted of half hour tacking up the horse and having her work horse at liberty. Next half hour I rode around arena but she pulled me in the center to explain stuff to me. Total riding time about 20 minutes. She told me last week the saddle is too small and she wants me to buy some slimming underware like a girdle. She said everyone wants stuff to happen now!! I am frustrated cause I can't ride horse unless she supervises and I have nothing to practice. I don't want to fight with her cause I dont want to burn bridges. Is this kind of stuff normal for lessons nowdays?

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                      • Welcome, zacdos. Personally, I think your trainer is moving way too slow. Yes, it takes time to learn the proper way to do things, but you are paying for riding lessons, not tack up and liberty lessons. I honestly would look for a new trainer if at all possible. I know it may be difficult with your lease situation. The other alternative is to sit down with your trainer and have a heart to heart with her. I have a feeling, though, that she is stuck in her ways from what you posted. Good luck and keep us posted.
                        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                        ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                        • Classy, I know you will get there when you feel right! . And I think it will come sooner than you think.
                          “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                          ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                          • catching up

                            Hi all- long time no post. Been working with Ollie a lot on getting his hind end engaged and being more responsive. It's been working! his jumping form has vastly improved, even if mine hasn't! This is from schooling the night before our show: http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps43c77029.jpg

                            Show wasn't great though. We heard the dreaded phrase "rider, you are excused" because he kept dropping a shoulder to evade the first jump - out of pure laziness. Second course, once I got him going, was just beautiful though. I also had to teach him a lesson about rushing in the flat class by putting him on a canter circle in the middle. I wasn't going to place, so I thought I would try to teach him that slowing down is The Right Thing To Do. Good overall experience for him, even if we didn't place.
                            Blog chronicling our new eventing adventures: Riding With Scissors

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                            • My lesson was wonderful!! There were so many things I knew I was doing wrong but was having the hardest time correcting them on my own, and even identifying when/what I needed to change. Sounds ridiculous coming from someone who has been riding for 15+ years (now thats a scary thought) but true. I guess it just didn't "feel" right but I didn't know what to change! I really clicked with the trainer too which is such a nice feeling. I'm still coming to terms with what went down at the previous barn, but I know with time I'll get over it. Even though I know I did the right thing its still rough. I'm going back to the new place next Tuesday and then will be out the following weekend to help with with some kiddie stuff and hacking some of her sale horses.

                              CR - keep on chugging away at the cantering, I know you'll get it. I hope your home situation improves too, I'm sure thats rough.

                              Paradox - looking forward to your lesson update! I'm going to be taking weekly lessons at least to start which I need very badly & am excited for.

                              SuperD - have you tried putting a saltblock or lickit type thing in his stall? Maybe licking away at one of those will encourage him to drink more. Positive thoughts still coming your way!

                              PaintedHunter - well done at the show! Its all about the experience, everything else will come with time.
                              "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                              "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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                              • Thank you Paradox. I pretty much figured she is moving too slow. She is really stuck in her ways that is for sure! This would even be too slow for a beginner but I think that is what she considers me and she even called me that once or twice. I am going to have to get out of the lease cause this is really not working for me at all! I have some ideas I can use that may work and am planning to get out of this and the sooner the better! I will let you know what happens.

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                                • I had a little of the same experience and since went for evaluation rides at two other barns. I feel like after having had a few lessons I knew better what i wanted, and then could know what to look for in a trainer. Fingers crossed I chose wisely. I think you need to trust your trainer is doing right by you and bringing you along, and maybe you need to check out a few others (ask what their riding plan would be for you--that's what I did) and see what you like.


                                  Originally posted by zacdos View Post
                                  I am re riding after about 40 years. I am half leasing a horse and taking lessons once week. I rode a lot and studied dressage. My problem is with my trainer who I clicked with at first and thought this was going to be a great experience but now I am not too sure. I started lessons on Feb 6 and all we have done until a couple weeks ago is practice liberty and if I mentioned riding the trainer got upset. Weekend before last my leg started hurting so she said I have to ride. Last week my lesson consisted of half hour tacking up the horse and having her work horse at liberty. Next half hour I rode around arena but she pulled me in the center to explain stuff to me. Total riding time about 20 minutes. She told me last week the saddle is too small and she wants me to buy some slimming underware like a girdle. She said everyone wants stuff to happen now!! I am frustrated cause I can't ride horse unless she supervises and I have nothing to practice. I don't want to fight with her cause I dont want to burn bridges. Is this kind of stuff normal for lessons nowdays?

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                                  • I fell off today. Sky jumped a fence nicely and then spooked hard at a flower box sitting on the ground near the landing side. I stayed on for a few jumps but knew I was going to come off because she always panics when I start to come loose. I fell on my right arm and side and have a shiner on my forehead. The arm is sore. I took a hot bath and an Aleve about an hour ago. There is a bit of swelling on the arm. If it is still sore tomorrow, I may go for an x-ray.

                                    I was able to get back on, go over the jump again (no spook this time) and then jump a little more. The arm was very sore, though. One of the girls blanketed Sky for me after our ride: I didn't want to throw it over her. Was able to groom, clean my tack, and drive home, shifting gears with my sore arm, so I don't think it's broken.

                                    I adore Sky, but I hope she becomes less spooky with time.
                                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                    • Welcome, Zacdos! I am puzzled by what you mean by your trainer "working the horse at liberty" during your lesson. Does that mean the horse is cantering around loose? Do you mind telling me what goes on and what is being accomplished?
                                      I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                      • Welcome back, PH! The picture is wonderful! Ollie looks great. Sorry your show wasn't everything you'd hoped; my last one wasn't either. Well, it's all learning. At least that's what I tell myself.
                                        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                                        • Hi Dewey: Thanks for your response. No I don't mind at all. FIrst the trainer is working any excess energy off the horse by cantering him around the arena loose. Then I hand hold him while grooming and he likes to move around so she shows me how to get him to stand and ground tie. The horse must stand perfectly square for grooming and if he doesn't I have to keep moving him until he is. Next comes the saddle and I have to put the saddle on and it has to be to her liking i.e. everything in the keepers, keep tightening the girth 3 seperate times. Keep in mind I already know how to tack up. Next comes bridle but I can do that well she says. Then I get on while she holds the saddle so it doesn't move. I ride around the arena while she tells me the difference between classical dressage and modern dressage. She asks me questions like which horses foot is moving forward
                                          by the movement of my leg. If I get it wrong she takes me i the center and gives me a lengthy explanation which takes about 10 minutes and I have to listen until the horse wants to walk then I walk him around a few times. I tried getting the horse on the rail by having him yield to my leg and she said that is not right. I coulden't get the horse to stop or turn and she was no help. What gets accomplished? In my opinion nothing!
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