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  • Good news, Dewey!! Now you need to make it your mission to find some child to lease him on site so he won't go away...except to be a star at shows.


    • You're right, Finzean. I had thought his regular rider was leasing him, but now I am not so sure. I know the family is on a very tight budget.

      Every time the trainer takes him somewhere without me (e.g. IEA show), I worry that he's not coming back. She told me early on that she had gotten offers for him at an IEA show. He really is adorable, and everyone loves riding him.
      I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


      • SuperD, your horse sounds awesome. Be sure to take pics of him going XC this show year! Maybe your retiree would like to just be semi retired. Take him for walk rides! Trail rides, maybe? Chico is 19 this year, too. I've been blessed with a really sound horse, so I know I am lucky. I figure he will tell me when he is no longer enjoying his work.

        Dewey, no need to apologize. . But you have an excellent idea in having the trainer tell you ahead of time if she is seriously marketing him. Maybe since everyone loves him she will just keep him around for her little riders. And by all means, ride him if you can! (Pics, of course!)

        Still didn't get to see appendix. Waiting for trainer to call me back. Sigh. Probably will be the 30th.
        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
        ¯ Oscar Wilde


        • He is extremely useful to her, and that is my trump card. She coaches our college IHSA team and teaches PE classes for our local college as well, so he is used every day and is often shown by one of the college girls in our local circuit. His regular rider shows him in our 2'9" medal classes and usually wins, so he is really versatile. The trainer has often said that if he were just a few inches shorter or taller, he would be worth really big bucks.

          This is from an early show:


          This is with DD aboard, early in his training:


          Here's a jumping pic, not great:


          Here he is with his regular rider:


          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


          • Sorry, this is going to be a very quick reply. I just wanted to talk to SuperD about my own retiree.

            Gabriel will be 20 in two weeks. He's been retired-ish since 16 or 17 because of on and off lameness issues. But I've found him (so far, at least) to be sound for Walk/Trot work. I don't know about your guy, but mine just *loves* to work, so it was detrimental to him when I tried to completely retire him. I've been keeping him in "work" by just putzing around on him once or twice a week. Sometimes I don't even ride him - I'll do creative groundwork stuff. Anything to keep his mind engaged and feeling like he has a job.

            Your guy may be different and not need to have a job. But if he is one who likes to work, you can do all kinds of stuff to keep his mind engaged. Even stuff like trick training.

            Either way, I'm sure he's quite happy and well taken care of with you as his "mom" so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
            ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

            The equine love of my life: Gabriel
            4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3


            • Dewey, I can see why you are attached. What a cutey!!! Thanks for sharing those pictures. Love him.
              “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
              ¯ Oscar Wilde


              • Pancakes - lovely photos!

                HazelG - before heading to WDW for spring break, I splurged and hit the tanning booth - what a treat and it does do wonders for the gray days . . . shame on me, I am going to keep going once a week.

                superD - How fun!

                Dewey - what a cutie!!

                On a sad note, my trainer has had a rough two weeks - lost her barn dog last week to some kind of intestinal issue and then Monday morning lost one of her horses (one of our beloved schoolies) in a paddock accident. He was every little girl's dream - a grey TB with a heart of gold. Playing with his turnout mate, either got kicked, or came down wrong, and shattered a leg. He was older (in his early twenties) and had just finished up a great show season this past fall. RIP Louie, you will be greatly missed.

                "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy


                • Classyride, Thanks! I know he loved showing and does seem to miss it. He was the perfect hunter!!! Lately I have been free lunging him in the outdoor ring. I just let him do what he feels like for as long as he feels like it. He does seem happier.

                  It just kills me that he is starting to look old by means of his back is dropping. His coat is gleaming still and hopefully his dapples are somewhere under all that hair!!! But thanks for the advice. I may just take him for walks around.

                  Dewey so glad your little buddy is home and happily in his stall. He is adorable

                  Paradox, thanks he is a lot of fun and just so easy going!!

                  Tiger horse, I'm sorry for all the loss. It is 1 of the worst parts of having these wonderful fur babies. I lost both my cat and dog within weeks of each other and I miss them terribly.

                  One day I will figure out how to post pictures.......


                  • Originally posted by Dewey View Post
                    I am sick over all this. I have no control over anything as he is not my horse.
                    I live in fear of the mare I half-lease being sold. I love her more than any horse I have ever ridden, but I know I could not afford her asking price. Right now she is earning her keep, but that is only because of my lease, and 2 girls who take lessons on her once per week each. One of those girls is currently horse shopping (though Milly is not what she wants), so could be in trouble soon. I hate that she could go any time. Last summer at a schooling show at my barn a woman really liked her, but didn't like her after riding her twice I guess it's kind of good that Milly is a brat with new riders!


                    • Millysgirl, you half leasing the horse probably makes selling her less attractive. She is earning an income already! Good luck.
                      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                      ¯ Oscar Wilde


                      • Pancakes, I think your pics are lovely. You two look wonderful together. You'll be glad for all the pics someday after he turns white, because you won't believe how dark he was!

                        SuperD, I am following your progress with Jack with interest. (Every time I see the name, I feel a pang because DD and I lost our "Gentleman Jack" a short while ago. ) I used to event back in the day. I ride at an H/J barn now because that is what is near me, but I used to do Pony Club and horse trials when I was young. I don't understand the levels now. Back in the day, I remember Pre-Training, Training, Preliminary, Intermediate, and Advanced. It sounds as if there are a lot more now--maybe you can explain them to me.

                        I think you have gotten good advice for your older guy. Attention of any kind is probably what he craves; I like the idea of walking rides and teaching him tricks.

                        Tiger Horse, I am so sorry to hear what your coach is going through. It is really awful that she has lost two dear ones so close together. My coach confided to me the other day that she has made the decision to put down one of her beloved schoolies, and today is the day. He has been suffering from seizures, and they are getting more frequent, scary, and dangerous. No diagnosis was ever reached. She told me she was going to buy him a big bag of carrots that night. I sure hope he enjoyed them. I hope it is all over by the time I get there this afternoon.
                        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                        • Dewey, when I found out what his JC name was ( Jacks Full) I thought it was fate. My grandfather (who passed a few years ago) is Jack!! The people I bought him from were calling him Meathead. Terrible I know. So sorry about your horse, it's the worst part of owning them.

                          Now the levels of eventing are- elementary which is tiny around 18", then there is beginner novice which is 2', Novice which is I think 2'4" or 2'7", Training this is where I get messed up I think is 3' 2", going from Training to Prelim is the biggest jump 3'7" , intermediate is 3' 11" and Advanced 4' something.
                          Not all events have the Elementary level.
                          I may be wrong about the heights. but the order is
                          Beginner novice- BN- they have BN horse or BN rider divisions at most events.
                          Novice- N - same
                          Training- TR- you have to qualify to move up to prelim

                          So far we are having a blast and i think Jack is enjoying also. He is a huge 16.3 OTTB who really looks like a WB. I have had people argue with me that they don't think he is a OTTB. Even after they see his tattoo!!!!


                          • Hey guys! Sorry I’ve been basically “off the grid” for like a week or more. There are a lot of issues going on at home (a very unhappy 13 year old boy who is acting out), so I’ve been stressed beyond belief and just really have my hands full. I have been popping on and reading, but haven’t had time to respond to everyone or give updates on myself.

                            Frankly, there hasn’t been a whole lot to update on my end. With the home-life being kind of turbulent right now, my stress level is off the charts so I haven’t done much with the horses until last night ‘cause it wouldn’t be fair to them.

                            Saturday the farrier came. I don’t know what it is, but Velvet is not a fan of my farrier. She does *not* like mani-pedi time and normally rears multiple times during the session. My friend came out to help hold horses, which I *really* appreciated because of my lack of patience during this stressful time. I held Velvet through the first bit, but I was starting to get annoyed, so I grabbed the chain shank and handed it, and Velvet, to Erin to hold. She did a great job with her. Gabriel practically fell asleep during his trim (as per usual – he’s totally cool with it) and then I had to leave, but Erin reported that Rose was a perfect citizen, too.

                            Sunday I went out just to visit them. I was feeling way too stressed to do much, so I just went into their pasture and hung out for a while. It was so soothing. They all came over to see me when I walked in. Gabriel just wanted to say, ‘Hi” and get a face scratch, then he went his own way. Rose wanted attention, but was being a little pushy, so I had to shoo her off a little. Velvet wanted attention, too, and it’s almost like she knew Rose was being impolite, so after I shooed Rose a couple of times, she chased Rose off and then Velvet just hung out with me for quite a while. Probably a good 20 or 25 minutes, she just stood with me and interacted (nuzzling, sniffing, nibbling the edge of my coat, whatever). It’s amazing how sometimes they just know you need a friend, and they’re there for you. That really relaxed me and I can’t thank her, or the rest of them enough for that.

                            I didn’t go back out again until last night when I *finally* felt de-stressed enough to work with them. Gabriel was craving some attention, so I pulled him out first. As I was grooming him, I noticed he’s starting to get white hairs in a streak on his flank through one of his chestnut patches. My boy is getting older. It sucks.

                            Anyway, I just hand-walked him around the property some, showed him some new things and let him sniff them, did a little groundwork, and by that point he was quite happy. So, I put him away.

                            Next I took out Rose. I don’t know if it’s Spring Sillies, if she’s going in heat, or if she’s getting to those teenage rebellion years already, but she was really being a little be-otch when I pulled her out of her stall last night. Wouldn’t stand still for the life of her, tried to kick me when I was picking her back foot, shouldered into me more than once – so, we had a Come To Jesus in the aisleway of the barn. It really didn’t take all that much before she realized I meant business. Once I got her brain right, I took her on a tour much like Gabriel, but with more groundwork and a strict *focus on me* attitude. I touched her all over, picked up feet, rubbed her udder, etc, then would walk on. By the end, I took her back inside and she stood in front of her stall ground tied, stock still, just looking at me and waiting. Good girl.

                            Finally, it was Velvet’s turn. I took her outside to the big ring for the first time, but only to walk around and take it in. I would’ve ridden her out there but it was by moonlight and I didn’t feel comfortable. So, I brought her back to the indoor and was going to hop on bareback with halter and lead ropes. However, the mounting block in there is rather short and I’m not spry, so I couldn’t make it up on her. She stood great for me to try, but I couldn’t lift my leg much past her near hip bone – it wasn’t even getting over her back. So, that was no dice. Oh, well. At least she was an awesome girl, she got lots of rubs and some peppermints, and was quite happy to be tucked in with a pile of hay for the night.

                            So, last night actually ended up being really great, despite the fact that I didn’t get to ride.

                            As a side note, I haven’t had any more problems with their turnout since my talk with the BO, so I think those just happened to be two isolated incidents that unfortunately occurred close together. Thank goodness.
                            Last edited by ClassyRide; Mar. 22, 2013, 10:54 AM. Reason: because I can't spell. :-P
                            ~*~*~*~Founding member of the Spotted Saddlebred Pals Clique~*~*~*~

                            The equine love of my life: Gabriel
                            4/6/1993 - 8/23/2015 ...RIP my big, beautiful boy <3


                            • Classy, sorry you are having to deal with teen issues. I know that isn't easy. I don't have kids of my own, but I am close to my niece and nephew. My newly teenaged niece is having issues, and just dyed her hair blue and her grades are dropping. I feel bad that I cannot help, but they live in another state. . So I wish you the best with your situation.

                              Horses can be therapeutic when they want to be, huh? Sounds like last night was just what the doctor ordered, so to speak.

                              I haven't ridden this week. I was being wimpy in the cold. Boo. And still haven't seen the Appendix. More on that later!
                              “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                              ¯ Oscar Wilde


                              • superD -- I agree with everyone else; your old guy may be perfectly fine for walking and maybe even a little trotting. When I returned to riding, the horse I rode the most was this old TB mare who'd been mostly standing around in her owner's daughter's backyard for years. Minnie was SO happy to have a "person" of her very own again. We did a lot of trail riding, a little dressage, a few tiny jumps before she became too unsound to ride.

                                Meanwhile, Feronia's doing better but still on what my trainer calls "walkies" -- walk only rides without too much asked of her beyond staying steady in the contact. Here she is in all her hairy glory, in her Micklem bridle yesterday (as a dressage rider, I have more choice of bridles than the hunter people do, but less choice of bits. That's a plain old loose ring KK.)

                                Meanwhile, I got my local dressage GMO's yearbook and was happily surprised to find our picture in it: at a schooling show. This was last May, her first show off the farm in 2 1/2 years and she was a bit nutty. I couldn't braid her because she Would. Not. Stand. Still. So we got the "Fabio look"
                                You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                                1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"


                                • Aww..quietann, what nice pics. That yearbook picture is wonderful! Do you have that one on your wall, as well? .
                                  “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                  ¯ Oscar Wilde


                                  • ClassyRide - I'm sending you magic vibes, prayers, happy thoughts...whatever...for some peace in your house and your barn time. And a big hug as this, too, shall pass. Hopefully sooner, rather than later.


                                    • So tonight my young horse Jack colicked. I was at the barn from 4pm-7pm and he was fine. Normal Jack. I got the dreaded call from my trainer at 9pm telling me that one of the kids was still at the barn and thought Jack was colicking. Mostly because he was pawing and circling she also tried to give him a treat which he wouldn't take. She didn't think that was normal so she called my trainer. Can I say what a super star that kid is??? She pulled him out of his stall and preceded to walk him in the outdoor ring in this freezing cold weather till I could get there. ( I live 1/2 hr away). He was super lethargic when I got there with tacky gums elevated heart rate and a temp of 101. The vet came out and declared a right sided impaction with a ton of gas build up. His grain was just fermenting in his stomach. So we tubed him and gave him happy drugs. He was comfy and trying his best to find some scraps of hay in his stall when I finally left.

                                      So now I am armed with the vets personal cell # and lots of instructions and meds.

                                      Of course my trainer is heading to an event for the weekend in the morning so I will be hanging with my boy a lot this weekend. UGH what timing!!!

                                      Can I say how much I love this kid??? What a superstar to notice his very slight behavior change. ( he never rolled or laid down or kicked at his belly)

                                      So if you all could give him some jingles that this is it and all is well from now on that would be great!!


                                      • SuperD - wow, what an awesome, wonderful kid, she really is a super star! Sounds like he's feeling better, and I hope he stays that way.

                                        Classy - sorry you're having troubles, I wish there was something I could say to help, but they just have to grow out of it. I'm glad you have your horses to look after you though (because sometimes they really do take care of us too).

                                        Quietann - I love the scooling show pic! The fabio look is working for her, actually IMO it elevates the whole photo, you get a great sense of movement and energy from it that is often lacking in the standard dressage pic.


                                        • SuperD keep us posted!! Sending jingles and then some!! And big hugs to the kid - what a great eye on that youngin!