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  • Great news about Rose, ClassyRide! Sounds as if she is making phenomenal progress!

    I just got back from the showgrounds. It's about 40 mins from here. Sky was very good overall. She was much more reluctant about loading than yesterday--probably because there were five other horses milling about, waiting to get on, and lots of people running to and fro, so many more distractions. However, the trainer gave me a hand, and after the trainer got a bit firm with her, Sky decided to get on. Took about 20 mins to get her loaded--not too bad.

    At the show grounds, Sky was very looky, as all the horses were since this is a new venue. However, she went into a stall and was very good about being tacked up. Under saddle she was great. She jumped all the fences, some with hesitation, but she didn't refuse any until about half-way through our session; we came around a corner and approached a jump she hadn't been over. She did her usual "OMG! New jump!" put-on-the-brakes act, but when I legged her she went forward and I really thought she was going to go. However, at the last second she shied hard, and I came off. Nothing too serious, though. Sky stopped immediately and looked around as if to say, "Where are you, Mom?"

    I hopped back on and jumped her over the fence, and she was fine for the rest of the schooling session. Overall, she was very good, and I was proud of her. You are right, Paradox--I am so glad to have gotten all that out of the way before the show. I gave her a quick bath, fed her, and now she is settled with two of her friends in a nice paddock at the show grounds. I knew she would prefer being out.

    Sorry for the long post! Time to clean tack!
    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


    • Good luck at the show, Dewey! Relax and have fun. You'll be fine. We want updates and photos.

      The BAL procedure on my horse came back with no significant findings. So he's back to work, with as much turnout as the barn can manage. Rode Tuesday; no cough. Rode tonight; no cough. Have a lesson tomorrow.

      Forecast high for tomorrow is 68 degrees!
      It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

      www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


      • Good luck at the show Dewey! Pony4Me, have you tried antihistamines or cough supplements (like a cough syrup)? I hear you on frustrating health issues. Enjoy the weather! It's been good to hear about everyone.

        Bugatti and I have "clicked" a lot more, I think, just like everyone said would happen Luckily a lot of it was not personality issues, but more his health/pain issues, and my own emotional baggage leftover from work fogging my view. Nothing lots of Mrs. Pastures cookies can't solve
        There was a lot of trial and error to get to a place where we both can work consistently and move forward. His bit, a rubber D snaffle, turned out to be rubbing his face on his cheek and on his mouth despite him having a relatively soft mouth. This explained why I would ride him one day and he'd be great, and the next he wouldn't. Also explains why my trainer would ride when I couldn't, he had a day off, and then he was "bad" again for me. He was agitated because he was in pain! A happy mouth probably would have a similar problem, so we switched to a loose-ring snaffle with a bit guard. Problem solved!! He's not as soft as the rubber mouth but he is learning and it does what we need. Best of all, he's definitely comfortable.

        However, it's still been a rough road. His castration site on one side healed up well, but the other side continued to ooze and drain pus-like discharge even though it was trying to close. After SMZs for a week, Exceed for a week, and then a culture which resulted in Baytril for a week, his equine vet felt that he had a schirrous cord, which requires surgery. So, we did the surgery last week. Whoo boy. More $$ and a 2 day hospitalization, but he returned home. Then a week of gentocin injections and bute, and now more bute. He still has a HUGE crater where his little castration site was, but it's slowly closing. Unfortunately, he needs to be on stall rest/light exercise and NO TURNOUT during all of this and it's been very cool down here (unseasonably so). The first 2 days he was home I could ride him he was very fresh and a little spooky so I didn't hop on. My trainer rode yesterday and he was great; today I rode and he was not great. He spooked 3 times for NO reason, but I could sense something wasn't right from the moment I saw him. Turns out the dose of bute he was given was 1/5 of what it should've been, so at least I know why he was like that.

        We have had some brilliant moments, he's a super smart horse who has a ton of ability and talent, and I love him to death. It is all worth it to me. But, it's definitely taking patience and understanding to help him through this. The rewards will be worth it. And his withers are catching up to his butt! He is being SUCH a good boy despite all this, letting us cold hose several times per day and all that.

        OK so now some pics:
        My favorite Picture of us

        At the clinic, ready to be discharged
        Happy to be home!
        Here he is being suspicious of the treats offered, thinking they're meds
        His wound, today (day 7 post-op)
        His wound, day 1 post-op *warning, blood*

        Jingles for Bug's healing appreciated!


        • Thanks for the photos Pancakes. I really like the first one of the two of you it's lovely.


          • Aww, Bugati is having a rough start. Glad you are taking such good care of him. He will be fpgreat when he is "fixed". He is young, isn't he? He is so cute!

            Dewey, hope you're having a blast right about now and that Sky is acting like an old pro.

            ClassyRide, your baby sounds awesome and super smart. And yes, some trainers teach horses to face you. My husband does this with his.

            Pony4me, fingers crossed for you! Hope all is healthy.
            “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
            ¯ Oscar Wilde


            • In answer to those who have asked, my horse has had a complete allergy workup, cough syrup, antihistamines, antibiotics, steriods, IV DMSO, BAL procedure, change of stall, increased turnout, wet hay, lung ultrasound, and probably more stuff but I don't have my spreadsheet handy right now. He was fine today. Jumped a 2'6" course, lead changes both ways, and no breathing problems. Go figure. My bet is that all-day turnout (with a few big flakes of hay) will be the key to managing his condition.
              It's 2018. Do you know where your old horse is?

              www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.


              • Well today was so nice that I hit the trails with my boy. It was wonderful to ride again!!
                My trainer and I came up with a plan to get him legged back up. Which is great. He will be back competeing hopefully by the end of April!!

                Hope all is going well with everyone else....


                • Had a really bad day today.

                  Went riding with a friend and just had a really rough ride. I was riding one of her horses and the horse was pulling on me, being fresh, and gave a little half rear and take off action more than once. I wasn't really afraid I was going to fall off, because I wasn't, but more that I didn't know this horse, she totally had my number, and if she chose to keep doing what she was doing I would have zero control.

                  It's not a good feeling and combined with a bad lesson on Friday, I am just not feeling very confident or happy right now. I am just not used to horses who just.don't.listen and this was my first experience with it in a very long time (since I was a kid, probably) and I am just not up for it anymore.

                  I had wanted to go look at a horse tomorrow and now I feel like I can't ride at all and shouldn't be considering buying anything. Really bummed out.
                  Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                  you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.


                  • I hope things continue to go well for you, Pony4Me. It sounds like you've been through the cough in as many ways as possible. Hopefully this routine works for you and your horse.

                    Classyride, my horse naturally stops and faces me when I ask him to halt on the longe. I didn't teach him that for sure! And his previous trainer never longed him, so I'm not sure where that came from either. Just FYI.

                    Thanks HazelG and Paradox! Yes Bug is young. He'll be 5 in May. I have to remember that we're going to be making sloooooow progress.

                    Today Bug was SUPER spunky and I let him get his sillies out in the round pen. He whinnied, bucked, farted, the whole 9 yards. Then lots of surcingle work to get him to listen to me -- WOW did he ever! He framed up and was perfect on the longe line. Then I rode for a while which is more work he's had since surgery. He was pretty good...the new bit is certainly a huge fix but he was still very distracted. When he focuses and listens, he's SO pretty.

                    Alterageous, don't get discouraged. These animals have minds of their owns and there are always going to be horses that won't listen to what you're saying. I know how upsetting it is to feel like you're being disrespected and not in control, especially when you think it could become dangerous. So, in your horse search, don't get a green horse, and don't get something that's hot. So you want a packer, or something bombproof, or something very responsive/patient. Look for that instead. You won't click with every horse but that doesn't necessarily reflect on you as a rider. Keep on looking if it's what you really want.


                    • Alterageous geesh Im sorry.. really I am I am that way if I know how high the fence is...Im fine on the flat but over fences an 18" will look like 18'...

                      Well today would be the perfect day to ride temperature wise.. 64deg. Of course it is going to pour down rain, and tomorrow the high is to be 35.. but 64 tells me that spring is on the way.. or it is teasing and it is on perm vaca. and decided it lives in Fla.

                      I can not wait till I ride. I'm sure dh cant wait either to say Im getting short at him is putting it mildly.. BUT it is driving me nuts.. he gets to his fun things with out any restrictions and every thing I want to do come with his imposed restrictions as though I would "not be careful".. This includes driving.. I can not go anywhere without him and it is driving me nuts... I need alone time.. beforeIserioushurthim... I can not even go to the store with out him... sorry about that had to get that off my chest..
                      Friend of bar .ka


                      • Well, I will report on the show. Paradox, Sky did not act like an old pro--far from it--but I think it was a positive experience for both of us.

                        The negatives: she was really amped up, and during her first couple of courses, I had to slow her down and trot several fences; I did a courtesy circle after one of our courses and then heard everyone yelling that I had one more jump to do ; Sky bucked during Pleasure Horse ; she refused a jump after bulging out at a corner, and I couldn't get her straight to it; and someone had set up huge speakers right by the jumping ring for the announcer; these kept popping and making all kinds of scary noises until Sky decided that a dragon lived on that side of the ring. She at first shied when asked to trot or canter down that long side and then refused to go there at all.

                        The plus side: venue was lovely, weather was perfect, I was told by the announcer after the show that Sky was winning the under saddle by a lot after the first direction; when she shied and wouldn't go past the speakers in the second direction, the judge kept everybody cantering for a long time to give me a chance. (I finally did canter for half a lap.) So that was nice to hear. Also, we did our first 2'6" course; in spite of the refusal, Sky jumped everything at a new ring; each course was better than the one before; Sky saw a new place and learned that the experience would not kill her. At least I hope she learned this.

                        I know people wanted pictures, but DH did not go with me as he is down with the flu. There was a photographer there, but her pictures aren't up yet. I will post any decent ones. One of the moms filmed one of my rounds on her phone--I haven't seen that yet.
                        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                        • Pny4Me, I am sorry you can't seem to get an official diagnosis for the cough. Keeping my fingers crossed that things continue to go as smoothly as they are right now.

                          Pancakes, you have been through some rough times with Bugatti! But it sounds as if things are moving slowly in the right direction. May he continue to heal! The pictures were great--the first one especially. He is lovely.

                          Hazel, hang in there. Spring will soon be here!

                          SuperD, your trail ride sounds wonderful. Good luck with the reconditioning program.

                          bumknees, it is very frustrating to feel dependent. The weather does not help. I have to think that when the weather gets better, and you can get out and maybe even ride, your outlook will improve. Hang in there!

                          Alterageous, I'm so sorry that you had a setback. Remember that the horse that made you lose confidence is not your horse. As Pancakes points out, you can shop for the one that is right for you. That horse is out there, waiting for you.
                          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                          • Originally posted by Pancakes View Post
                            Alterageous, don't get discouraged. These animals have minds of their owns and there are always going to be horses that won't listen to what you're saying. I know how upsetting it is to feel like you're being disrespected and not in control, especially when you think it could become dangerous. So, in your horse search, don't get a green horse, and don't get something that's hot. So you want a packer, or something bombproof, or something very responsive/patient. Look for that instead. You won't click with every horse but that doesn't necessarily reflect on you as a rider. Keep on looking if it's what you really want.
                            That's the thing though. I can ride horses who aren't broke to death just fine. There's just a difference between a horse who is green but not really misbehaving, and a horse who is intentionally misbehaving who should know better. No, I would not buy a horse who does the latter. But I don't think that excludes "green but sane" as opposed to "trained but not".

                            My lesson was bad because I was riding a pony who just would.not.go despite spurs and a stick, and by 20 minutes it I was so tired just from trying to keep him moving that my position started to get sloppy because I'm just not strong enough in the "riding muscles" yet. The trainer kept me riding for 40 minutes after my "tired" point and by the end it was just really rough.
                            Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                            you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.


                            • I have ridden my boy all weekend!!!! He has been in training since July 2012. He had off Dec-This weekend and can I say that I still have the same horse that I had last fall??!! He just has the best brain ever.

                              A little background:
                              He raced briefly and horribly. Trainer left him for the killers after he bowed his tendon during his last race. He was rescued by a girl I know and turned out at her Moms farm for 3 years. She put basic, basic foundation on him. I came along and after hearing that she was sending him back to the auction aka killers. I bought him on the spot in June of 2011. I hadn't even ridden him nor did I do a PPE. I moved my horses shortly after that. I started him myself and after a few months he tore his SDFT. He was then off till June of 2012. Thus starting his career as an event prospect in July. He has been awesome and so easy right from the start. I today I realized just how lucky I am.


                              • Well Dewey -- you aren't the only one who had a challenging show weekend! When we arrived at the show venue Friday to settle in and school, Tajar was super amped up. This is the largest show environment he has ever been in -- the barns are very large, and metal. They are really loud, with lots of activity. And there were many, many more horses than he is accustomed to.

                                My trainer rode him Friday -- I did not school him at all because we ran out of time.

                                Saturday morning he was pretty antsy again, but after lunging and my trainer riding him, we made it through our classes. We won the hunter under saddle class, and got 2 fourth places in our others. He was anticipating a lot, and broke into a canter during the EQ class, and we had a couple of jigs when we were supposed to be walking in the Pleasure class. While he was "up" he was still going well and doing his job - he did not feel like he was crazed or was going to take off or anything.

                                On Sunday - he lunged again, and the first half of my trainer's warm up on him was fine. Then, we don't know why, something just snapped and he had a mental melt down. When I got up n him, he was spinning and cranking his tail. He was seriously unhappy! So, we scratched our classes.

                                I am hoping the Sunday melt down was just a function of the new, much bigger show environment. And I am praying he gets used to it, because that is his intended job!!

                                pony4me -- sorry you are still dealing with a mystery. I can't imagine how frustrated you are.

                                Pancakes -- you too have been through it recently. Glad Bugatti is getting better.

                                For everyone else having some challenges, let's all hope things settle as the weather gets better and we get some of the show season under our belts.
                                Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion.... ~ Emerson


                                • Haven't checked in in forever....really busy getting new biz venture started & b/c of the weather/footing haven't been able to do much more with the horses than feed, clean, muck...feed, clean, muck... So this afternoon I got on the Amazon for a bit. She is such a goof!

                                  DD & I were headed to the ring to ride a little so DD brought in the grey mare, I brought in the Amazon. The grey mare is easy and perfect, stood quietly...none of her sanity was rubbing off on the Amazon who was frantically looking for her turn out buddy (who incidentally couldn't have cared less that the Amazon was MIA). So I took the Amazon outside, tying her to Pig Pen's "time out tree." She immediately settled down and was perfect. Groomed, tacked up and then spent an excessive amount of time fretting over my new schooling helmet as I have now decided I hate the way it (doesn't) fit. The Amazon is out of sight just outside the barn door and DD hears something suspicious. We walk over to see the Amazon who has untied herself (no biggie as she's tied to a twine loop & the lead is still in the loop) and managed to remove all sorts of brushes, curries, etc. and is tossing them all over the place. We had a good laugh over it.

                                  Oh - and we had a good ride, too, except for the fact that I am so one sided it's ridiculous. Poor horse having to haul me around when we're tracking right...to the left, beautiful...why can't I go right?? So off to the dressage guru we go - hopefully sooner rather than later, just gotta get a break in the schedule.

                                  Otherwise, we were SO HAPPY to have good weather the past 3-4 days! It's raining right now but should clear up for some more riding time the rest of the week. Glad Spring is finally beating back winter!

                                  TarheelJD congrats on the win.

                                  Alterageous...I feel ya on the tired thing. I'm trying to practice my tracking right off sides issue but while the muscle memory is there, the athletic ability is not. My hiatus from legit, actual riding was about 7 years and change; while I hunted in 2004, the last time I jumped around an actual course of any substance was before that. I wish I had the time to just practice, practice, practice but practicing is no good if I can't hold position. So I need to make sure I ride every day - which is sometimes wishful thinking.


                                  • Sounds like most of you had a wonderful weekend. Wish I could've been right there with you but this weekend sucked weather wise rain no indoor....
                                    My biggest fear is that something will happen and for what ever reason I can not ride...

                                    I'm in bit if a funk today so bear with me please..
                                    I spent all weekend washing DHs' uniforms as he was put on some sort of alert( a special alert because of his job in the military) because of Korea so all of his uniforms have to be ready on a moments notice. I hate this part of military life but I would not take that away from DH for it was his life before I married him. It is the life I signed up for when I said" I do".
                                    Because of the way he set it up I also get a call also. When I asked him why I got a call he said well 1) so you know what is going on 2) incase my phone is down they can still get intouch with me. He knows what number t call. The calls are computer ones so they say something like "attention attention you are being informed of.... then it puts out the alert. And what number to call for further instructions ect. I normally hang up as soon as I hear attention.
                                    I can not tell DH that every time my phone rings with the ring tone for that number I want to jump out of my skin. Or that I want to scream into my phone no you cant have him I need him. (even though it will do no good its a computer damn it), or that I want to take him away someplace where there are no phones or internet and hide him.
                                    No I have to put on a hard face and pretend that all's well and it will be ok even if I have to send my DH somewhere because some idiot it a country that we have been at a state of war (though war was never actually declared and it refuses to sing any peace treaty it and others have worked on) with for what is it now 50yrs+/- decides to be an idiot.
                                    If I have to do that again I may have a melt down. And you may see a side of me you have never seen even on OT days.. and it is not a nice side. As dh put "it is a face along with a voice that makes generals/ admerals(sp) what to hide because it will stop at nothing to get what it wants, needs etc.It is abrasive, harsh, mean, and noting is out of limits at all.. " The scary thing is he is not exaggerating and I almost (99% of the time) get what I want/need.
                                    So I apologize in advance if that happens..
                                    thanks for this I had to get it off my chest someplace I know dh dosent go...
                                    Friend of bar .ka


                                    • bumknees - my sister is an Air Force wife...I know of what you speak. And, yes, it's the life y'all signed up for but it doesn't make it any easier when the one you love is headed into harm's way. My BIL flies C-17s and did lots of middle east drops in pretty sketchy places...who can't help but worry??

                                      Peace to you!


                                      • bumknees, I can see how that would be so nerve-wracking. I personally couldn't deal with it. I grew up with Navy kids during the Vietnam war, and my mother taught them. She said you could always tell when the dads were about to be deployed; misbehavior went WAY up. As a kid, I didn't notice it really but I do remember kids being yanked out of school suddenly, and kids whose fathers were killed. And years later I dated a Navy guy whose father had PTSD from Vietnam, and the whole family was so messed up by that.

                                        In any case, I will cross my fingers that the Korea situation doesn't suddenly go awful... but it sounds like it may.

                                        Feronia's doing OK. She has been trimmed and has her shoes back on and I can ride her at the walk. The barn is a mud-pit, which she and I both hate. It was muddy before Friday's "surprise!" snowstorm dumped 15 inches, and will be worse if we get an inch of rain today as predicted. Vet comes to recheck her on Thursday and possibly do the Tildren injection then.
                                        You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                                        1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"


                                        • Hi All. Have not checked in for a while - lots going on.
                                          My dad is in the hospital, but got moved to a rehab facility today.
                                          I am signing Finn over to my trainer as I can't afford to keep him.

                                          But, the good news is that I (finally) got a job an start on Friday!!!
                                          And nothing bad happened!