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  • Great video,Tiger Horse. You and your horse look great!
    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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    • Go Tiger Horse! You look great :-D
      "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
      "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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      • Good job Tiger Horse! He looks like a forward, though responsive, ride. You did a great job staying with him and keeping him from rushing! Glad you had fun most importantly

        Finzean - thank you, I love the grays too! I'm loving the charcoal too, and hopefully he won't gray out *too* quickly. He's going to be 5 in the spring, so I hope he'll be a gorgeous dapple gray by the time he's 7 or 8, when I hope to have us both at top form

        I'm so excited for my new guy to come tomorrow! I promise I'll take pictures. I can't wait. He's so sweet and lovable and I can't wait to hug him and show him off. He's got a trot and canter to DIE for. I have a video from when I tried him but I'll try to get a better one next week once we settle in. He still has to recover from his gelding, so I won't hop on and do much until next week.

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        • Thanks everyone! Lots to work on, of course, but it's a start. Pancakes - he can be very forward - but, I have learned to appreciate it rather than fear it! The good thing is, that if you point him at it, he will jump it, which is a real confidence boost for me. Plan until my next lesson - live in two point and shorten my reins!!
          http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

          "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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          • Wow, so many things going on! Great!
            I hope everybody has a great start at 2013.

            Loving my new life in Florida, but of course I'm back to being horseless since my big boy stayed in France where he's receiving great care from my dad (who gave me the horse-loving bug) and being regularly ridden by friends. I miss him a lot but it feels good to be back.
            Florida is great at this time of the year... I'm dreading the summer heat and humidity, we shall see...
            If anybody is in the Tampa area, send me a PM, I literally don't know a soul around here so it would be good to make new friends!
            Amandine


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            • Tiger Horse, you look great, and can I say how lovely your horse is?? Love that canter.

              Pancakes, I'm dying to see photos of you and your new guy! I am Team Grey too Ollie was 9 last year when I got him and was a LOVELY dapple grey, but I hate how much whiter he has become in just 7 months! I'm sure living outside doesn't help, but I think his days of dark legs and dark substantial dapples are over SIGH. Now I'm hoping for flea-bitten!
              Blog chronicling our new eventing adventures: Riding With Scissors

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              • Originally posted by Tiger Horse View Post
                Thanks everyone! Lots to work on, of course, but it's a start. Pancakes - he can be very forward - but, I have learned to appreciate it rather than fear it! The good thing is, that if you point him at it, he will jump it, which is a real confidence boost for me. Plan until my next lesson - live in two point and shorten my reins!!
                Forward horses can be scary, but can also be confidence givers depending on how you ride them...You guys obviously have a great grounding in flatwork, and it definitely showed in the video o/f. One suggestion my trainer had about releasing over fences on the more forward ones goes along with your resolution to shorten your reins, because with shorter reins you'll find it much less scary to put your hands further up his neck.

                2 point practice over poles on the ground really helps too. One exercise we did ALL THE TIME when I was a WS was to change the position of our jumping position in all gaits - so you'd go from standing almost straight up in your stirrups and closing the angle a bit for every "position" - there were 5 different ones. I think this is more of an eventer exercise but useful for helping figure out your balance whatever discipline you fall.
                "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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                • Paintedhunter - Thank you, he is the horse of my dreams! I have had Dodger 4 years, purchased him from my trainer, and although the first couple of years were pretty frustrating - I'm glad I stuck it out.

                  Event4Life - thank you so much for the suggestions - I better stock up on the Advil!! (Although I'm not as sore as I though I would be today.) Our main focus, the past four years, had been dressage and it did really help last night.

                  A fellow boarder is going to a mini-event this spring . . . she's already trying to get me to go along!
                  http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                  "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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                  • I need to vent a bit, folks... hope you don't mind!

                    Feronia and I have not jumped since she went lame in October. She's perfectly sound now (with new shoes and heel support, as it appears she may have had mild laminitis sometime in the past) and I may be back to it as soon as tomorrow

                    But. I am stuck. My two trainers are fed up. Every ride (except the "extra special spicy Morgan" ones) starts with a big fight to get her forward and through (remember I am more focused on dressage.) This is the stuff I should be able to deal with in warm-up, before the lesson (both trainers expect their students/horses to arrive ready to go to real work.) I know what to do but it doesn't work so well when I am not being coached. In fact the trainers are fed up because we're spending at least half of every lesson on it. Once we're there -- usually after I've whaled on her a bit and she knows I'm serious -- she's awesome. But getting there.... ugh.

                    She's fine physically, saddle fits, been tested for Lyme and came back negative, etc. She's got her usual routine for winter aches (she has arthritis, just like me.) Put a good rider on her, and she caves within 10 minutes. With me, it's constant "do I haf-ta?" until I can get her to decide that yes, she has-ta!

                    We're trail riding a lot, which is good for us, but to some degree is an avoidance strategy for me. I get a little bit of attitude heading out, and once again it can take a while before she gets that she has-ta. She doesn't do anything horrible -- no whirling and trying to return to the barn, no planting her feet and refusing to move; the worst she does is turn her head back slightly while slowing her walk. But I am working way too hard in the meantime.

                    This is a very, very smart mare, and yes she "has my number" to some degree, though it's much better than it used to be (if constant nagging questions are better than explosions, that is.) Putting a target in front of her -- ground poles or a little jump -- helps, some.

                    just venting. She's really quite awesome, an angel on the ground, and very fun to ride when she's decided to cooperate.
                    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                    • I can understand your vent quietann. I know it can get frustrating. I do think, however, your trainers are being too impatient with you and your horse. I think they should be willing and happy to work on whatever you and your horse needs. Obviously you want the coaching during the rough spots and I think that is when the trainer should be willing to work with you. Is it possible to find a trainer that wouldn't mind working more on the warmup issues? Good luck! You'll get there.
                      “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                      ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                      • Milloute55, welcome to the States. Are you originally from the States, or is this your first time here? Sorry, I'm not in Florida. I used to live there and really wasn't a big fan. Way too hot. I'm in TN and it's still too hot in the summertime. . Now, I would love to go to France.
                        “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                        ¯ Oscar Wilde

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                        • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
                          I can understand your vent quietann. I know it can get frustrating. I do think, however, your trainers are being too impatient with you and your horse. I think they should be willing and happy to work on whatever you and your horse needs. Obviously you want the coaching during the rough spots and I think that is when the trainer should be willing to work with you. Is it possible to find a trainer that wouldn't mind working more on the warmup issues? Good luck! You'll get there.
                          quietann - I agree with what ParadoxFarm said! What are lessons for but to tackle problem areas - whatever that may be. Or, have you tried warming her up on the lunge line in side reins? A fellow boarder found that very effective with her mare - who sounds like she has a very similiar personality to your mare. Best of luck to you!
                          http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/

                          "I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy

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                          • Originally posted by ParadoxFarm View Post
                            I can understand your vent quietann. I know it can get frustrating. I do think, however, your trainers are being too impatient with you and your horse. I think they should be willing and happy to work on whatever you and your horse needs. Obviously you want the coaching during the rough spots and I think that is when the trainer should be willing to work with you. Is it possible to find a trainer that wouldn't mind working more on the warmup issues? Good luck! You'll get there.
                            Well the problem is as much that *I* am impatient with me, and with the horse, who has not always been like this. I've had her for 5 years; she was way hotter when I first had her, then she was injured and had a long rehab, during which she learned about "conservation of energy", as in, it's easier to be pokey and lazy than jumping out of her skin. The strange thing is, I *can* ride her through a jumping out of her skin episode, e.g. recently in a lesson when a naughty pony got loose and made a beeline for us, and she was airborne! I yelled at him and he ran away, but then he did it again, the little sod. She should have kicked the snot out of him but she was too busy jumping around.

                            The trainers and I are trying to find a warm-up that works that I can do on my own, without getting super-frustrated.
                            You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                            1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                            • Originally posted by quietann View Post
                              Well the problem is as much that *I* am impatient with me, and with the horse, who has not always been like this. I've had her for 5 years; she was way hotter when I first had her, then she was injured and had a long rehab, during which she learned about "conservation of energy", as in, it's easier to be pokey and lazy than jumping out of her skin. The strange thing is, I *can* ride her through a jumping out of her skin episode, e.g. recently in a lesson when a naughty pony got loose and made a beeline for us, and she was airborne! I yelled at him and he ran away, but then he did it again, the little sod. She should have kicked the snot out of him but she was too busy jumping around.

                              The trainers and I are trying to find a warm-up that works that I can do on my own, without getting super-frustrated.
                              Kick on, quietann! We have a boarder whose mare (that we think is like QH x Morgan) is also VERY clever and has a horrible case of l.a.z.y. It was confirmed through various diagnostics! Mare's owner gets really frustrated with her b/c when it comes to ring work, Mare just tortures her and wears her out. I get on Mare for 10-15 minutes and kick her around and that's usually all it takes. I'm sending you some "Kick On, Sister!" vibes!! You can do it!!

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                              • Y'all are very sweet, thanks. I do get frustrated... I mean, I trust this mare as much as I can trust any horse -- she is safe, and smart, but very stubborn.

                                (And oddly enough, riding her bareback seems to help. She's very comfy that way. My seat's better that way, though I have not really mastered canter to trot transitions. Also I am asking her to carry herself but in a slower way, which she likes... She has a lovely little western-style jog in there.)

                                ETA: I avoid longeing her because I don't want her joints overly stressed. Keeping her sound is an ongoing challenge and I want the odds in my favor...
                                You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                                1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                                • Originally posted by MILOUTE55 View Post
                                  If anybody is in the Tampa area, send me a PM, I literally don't know a soul around here so it would be good to make new friends!
                                  Amandine
                                  Amandine,

                                  Unfortunately, I'm in the N. part of the state around Tallahassee ... And technically, I'm in South Georgia, but ride just N. of T'hassee, which is a haul to Tampa.

                                  But you should have no problems finding people to hang out with in Tampa.
                                  The dude abides ...

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                                  • Another week since I have ridden, and the last time I rode was short. It's pretty much all me - my horse and I have a wonderful relationship on the ground. In fact, when I went to get him from the very back of the pasture today, he trotted up to me to get haltered!

                                    In the saddle is different. I have this brain that tends to head off in fifty different directions, all with one destination - the Land of What If. So, I tense up with worry and our rides are not great and I am not really progressing with him - there was that bulging thing we fixed.

                                    He really is a good boy - he tries so hard but I sometimes send confusing signals.

                                    Well, today, my trainer came up with something new, for us. A lunge line and side reins. The lunge first to get some of the antics, if there be any, out and to warm him up. Then she put the side reins on, quite loose and sent him out at the walk. Oh, he was not happy and was so worried about them there was a bit of a moment. But he settled down and worked nicely. Then, she handed the lunge to me with instructions - no more than 10 minutes, combination of walking and trotting and a few halts thrown it. He was so good! He even almost maintained his composure when the rest of the geldings (pasture is very close to the ring) played we all run now like maniacs. This was due to the boss mare busting through the fence and, along with a few of her cronies, joining the boys. Just way too much excitement.

                                    So, after we finished our lunge line work, I got on, just for a little. He felt so much more relaxed! Still willing and eager to go, but not tense.

                                    Will do the same routine tomorrow and then get in more of a ride on my horse!
                                    And nothing bad happened!

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                                    • My new mare arrived today. I had only seen photos of her but knew she sticked at 16.3 or 17. Ummmm - this girl is a monster. She's just giant and sadly she has learned just how big she is somewhere along the way. Not malicious, just rude leading her when she wants to go. Chain over nose does not a thing. Oh, well...something to work on. I'm excited to ride her this week once she settles in.

                                      Otherwise the report from the farm is that according to Thing 1 & Thing 2 living in the front pasture, the rain created some AWESOME mud holes suitable for standing on one's head & grinding one's greyed out formerly white haired self into the grunge. Pig Pen has done his duty to remove the gumballs along the southwest fence line...he's carrying them around in his mane. Lovely.

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                                      • Congrats on the new Amazon, Finzean. Good luck with your ride!

                                        As to mud balls - yes, mine was quite the looker today, too. I had to use the Evil Curry (the harder one) just to knock the dried mud off before I could even think about grooming. Poor diva thin-skinned TB thought he was being killed. It would just be too easy to knock the mud off on the fence, a tree, another horse, anything - no, we must acquire as much mud as possible and let it try to almost concrete consistency. It's in the Pony Contract.
                                        And nothing bad happened!

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                                        • at stories of muddy ponies, though I shouldn't... My girl hates mud and rarely gets into it if she has a choice.

                                          Finzean, I am sure you know this already, but the butt end of a dressage whip in the shoulder can reduce leaning. It's bad enough with a 850-900 pound, small horse; I can't imagine having to deal with it from a huge one!

                                          Today's lesson went better! Phil praised me for handling the warm-up on my own, riding through some antics from the mare, and he says she seems to be getting the idea that go = GO, no questions asked. She was good in the lesson... until she started acting weird. She was a bit gassy (which happens in the indoor, we think it is stress.) and he eventually was worried enough that he thought I should take her back to her stall to see if she'd poop. She didn't!!!! but she peed gallons. I had to go get the rest of our stuff from the indoor so I took her with me, and realized about halfway there that she did NOT have gas colic, but she WAS in heat. In January! Silly mare. She has very silent cycles but the first and last heats of the year are a bit more noticeable. Left her at the barn happily munching on hay and 100% her normal self. (And yes, she's pooped before I left. Twice.) I am happy that's she's OK but sad that what looked to be such a good lesson got cut short.
                                          You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                                          1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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