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  • Ridernc- welcome, welcome!

    PF- can't wait! So excited for you.


    • RiderNC- welcome! More saddle time is good! Where in California were you from? Some of us are also still in Cali! (Norcal and Socal both!!) . Let us know if you decide to lease, i think its a great deal!

      PF: I am so excited for you!! I am also super interested about the whole makeover thing, it would be super cool to have you walk us through the whole journey!

      Lucky: Any pony time?

      EQ: Love to hear about your clinic!

      I rode two days in a roll and one more tomorrow! Yesterday I rode the trusted school pony and total confidence builder. She has near zero spooks, motor on her own, auto changes, point and shoot, super enjoyable ride. I suddenly will not worry about the crazy traffic in the ring because i know for sure she is totally fine with that!
      Today, back to the baby horse. There was a one stride in the middle that we just cannot get, arghhh.. Also, she really prefers the long spot, and jumped me completely out of tack almost flying, thank goodness my saddle is super sticky. She's a fun ride, learn a ton!!


      • Rain rain rain

        Just under 29 mm

        Yesterday 55 mm

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        Another 5 mm this morning.

        I heard a frog yesterday. The first time in years.
        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


        • And it just started raining again! 😁
          It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


          • Yay for frogs!!
            My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


            • Suzie: super happy for you !!! More rain !! And yay for frogs!


              • Faye- no Pony time since the not so fun last lesson. I'm nervous about next weekend. I love the pic you posted jumping with Elsa, she has snappy knees for a baby


                • Lucky: I promise it will be fine!! When a horse gets hot, i start to have a melt down, gets very nervous and they know, and it spirals down. Sometimes i will take a deep breath and tell myself it's okay, but i literally have mini panic attack the entire lesson. Elsa loves to pull her knees up to her eyeballs, and together with taking a LONG spot, it is not fun at all for this chicken ammy!


                  • Suzie: Thank you! I think it works out financially to make sense, assuming I make sure to take advantage of my time.

                    PF: Thanks! I am also super interested in your makeover experience. I always see folks I'm connected with share about the beginning and the end, but I haven't seen much of the middle.

                    Lucky: Glad to be here

                    Faye: I am originally from north San Diego county, but I spent the last eight years in Los Angeles. I did a little riding up in Topanga Canyon, but not much.


                    I had my lesson yesterday - two actually! The horse I have been regularly riding and considering leasing came down with thrush, so he had a hoof treatment earlier in the morning. About 45 minutes into my lesson, he came up a little lame on the right side, so the head trainer called my lesson short and offered to give me another one right after on a different horse, since she had the slot free. Switching from a tall, older WB to a compact, younger QH in the span of 2 hours really reminds me how important riding different horses is. (And oh my goodness, I have never had to catch a horse that did not want to be caught in a huge pasture before...yikes!)

                    As for the lease, I think I'm going to hold off a few weeks. I'm a little worried about leasing a horse that has a chronic thrush issue, which seems to be the case with the WB. He also frequently gets rain rot and has shivers, which makes his backend a little wonky on the ground. I'm currently lessoning with the jumping trainer (just flatwork for now) on Sundays and Wednesdays and will be moving to the head trainer on Sundays, keeping the other trainer on Wednesdays. This was my first lesson where I really felt substantial improvement over the course of the lesson, so I'm feeling very accomplished this week, despite pushing out a lease.


                    • Faye- it's almost like you're at my lesson, or in my head If I can breathe deep and actually relax, or fake it enough, she will relax and de-escalate, however I'm spoiled with her b/c usually her over-ride button is fantastic. I've only ridden one semi back-cracker and man I hated jumping him. I felt like I was gonna come off every time he'd do his killer bascule. And this was over 2'3 and under. Here's hoping for a fun IG story this weekend for us both.

                      rider- how fun to have two lessons, or one super-sized one. Thrush can be a bummer and I'm glad you know this propensity before you pull the trigger on a lease. I think it actually shows good horse sense and horsemanship to wait and not rush into anything. Look forward to hearing more about your adventures.


                      • Good call rider. With horses there is no hurry. Good trainers know that. You know not to push a lot for today as by next week they will be better and it makes absolutely no financial sense to take on a horse that is not 100% sound.

                        Rain scald is actually contagious and you won't be able to do anything about it unless he is 100% in your care. Dodge came here with it from the riding school and the horse Ben I was riding really suffered from it in his saddle area. He was better when I rode him once a week as I tended to him but it is their management that was lacking and why he gets it. If he was here he would not have been getting a saddle on.

                        They get it from being warm and wet.

                        Use a medicated shampoo, normal shampoo if you don't have it and I use my fingernails to remove any lumps. Go easy, don't hurt him it depends on how bad and how sore.

                        Use his own grooming gear and tack.

                        When you use a sweat scraper you do not use the rubber side on sides and rump. Turn it around the other way. Using the rubber you only remove the water. You want to remove the sweat. The rubber is used over bony bits like the legs. Allow to dry before putting a rug on

                        It is the allowing to dry before putting a rug on that is the crux at a riding school, they don't have time and I have no idea about managing a horse in snow as I am in Australia.

                        It would have taken a year for Dodge to get over it. In Summer you can still see some scars from it.

                        When Dodge came he really looked like a war horse. I lovingly and sadly brushed permoxin all over every mm of him. We have to do that on the horses here as we have so many insects that horses that have never itched before will come here and itch.

                        I pretended that it was magic and would heal where it touched. Now a couple if years later he is quite a good looking horse when you take his rug off and it is Summer at the moment.

                        Thrush is also a horse management problem and in all my years I have never seen it. Touchwood. Maybe because we are in a hot country. It is more a problem with stabled horses maybe. And I have lived and worked around horses since before I could walk.

                        So it is up to you to see if a horse in their care has both rain scald and thrush and how much of a red flag that is. Even Faye in her barn that we all said she should move on never mentioned thrush.
                        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                        • Thrush is common in some areas. I see it on occasionally, but treat it and it's gone. If you stall a horse, they can step on poop, and they can get thrush. Not necessarily a red flag. When any of my horses have had any type of skin issues like rain rot, I use Equiderma, and it clears right up.

                          ridernc, if I get selected for the makeover, I'll be sure to fill in lot of "middle"! Maybe I'll do a blog of my experiences.

                          Still waiting on one thing on the new boy before it's 100 done deal. So I'll post more when I know for sure. I don't anticipate a problem, but prefer to wait just in case.

                          The vetting process for the Makeover is more extensive than I thought it was. I had to send my trainers' referral information, I had to get a letter from my vet saying I could properly care for an OTTB, and I had to submit videos of me riding. Of course, doing it last minute, I could only find a few videos of me jumping Katie and riding Tay flat. Hope that's enough. Then we had to list our accomplishments in our discipline. I don't have a lot lately, but had some nice championship/reserve championship ribbons back in the day in the Modified Jumpers and Schooling Jumpers on the B-Circuit when I lived in MI. But that was a while ago! Hopefully I'll pass. I do think adopting from the "Center" will help, as they want you to promote the breed. Plus my next horse is a "Center" horse. Also DH being on the advisory board might be good. And I've been a member of RRP for about 4 years I think. So fingers crossed. Think good thoughts for me!

                          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                          • Good luck PF

                            If not selected you will just have to go out and win so as you can do it next time.
                            It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                            • Who knows, this may be my last young OTTB, so I hope I can do it this year. But I will do the TIP show as well, so that'll still be fun in KY.
                              My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                              • Lucky: Thank you! I am definitely wary of all things horses, whether for safety or money, etc. I hope that my eagerness isn't coming across as impatience. I just love riding and want to do it more!

                                Suzie: All good points. I am by no means an expert on horse care, but from what I have seen generally, I don't have suspicions about the horses being treated poorly. I recently relocated to North Carolina, so I'm not very familiar with this hot and wet type of weather and horses. For example, about two weeks ago, it was raining for about 6 days and 65-70F. From what I have gathered online and from folks around the barn, thrush and rain rot are fairly common in this climate, especially with pasture board, and consistent treatment is being given to horses who affected, which happens to be some more than others.

                                For this particular horse, he is out in the pasture 24/7, so he's always out there in the rain and mud. I've never had to tack him up when he was wet, but I can't speak for what others have done throughout the week. He can't do stall boarding because of his shivers, which causes him to fall occasionally while he's sleeping and having a huge 17hh+ WB fall in a small stall is dangerous (and terrifying). That is what was shared with me anyway, and it seemed logical enough, but if any of this seems unusual, please tell me. This is definitely a good point about being aware of all the horses around me though - thank you! Also, I did not know it was contagious, so good thing I did not use any of my own brushes on him. I will keep that in mind for next time.

                                PF: Please do! With pictures and video, if you can! I would love to read it.


                                • Just saw Bitsa and Scopey Hopey in the Kirsten Coe clinic article Excited by association.


                                  • Rider it is correct that if you have a horse that might fall you do not put it in a stall. Also be careful leading, grooming and tacking in case they fall. Wear a helmet.

                                    I had to look up Shivers. You learn so much on these forums which is why I love them. You have a lot of conditions and illnesses over there that we do not have here.

                                    It said that there is no treatment but you can feed vitamin e and selenium.

                                    It also went on to say that it get worse to the point of euthanasia as there quality of life is compromised.

                                    It is such a shame.

                                    If he has training that can help you now, then lease him asap. They are such precious creatures and we have to love every second we have with them as they go way too soon.

                                    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                    • Wow Bitsa!!! Congrats!! Lucky, do you have a link so i can read up?

                                      PF: Jingles for you to get selected!

                                      RiderNC: Best of luck to you, hopefully you can get more saddle time one way or the other

                                      Suzie: Agree that we need to savor every moment we have with all our animals.

                                      Mr. Wonderful passed away. He had that nose polyp thing and i think his QOL was bad due to constantly needed to be scope and getting infections. We are very sad. That boy was my first glimpse into difficult horses. He made me realized that horses can be worried about traffic (and now I am too!)

                                      RIP Mr. Wonderful

                                      Riding wise- i am learning how to deal with the longer than i like spot. I know she likes the long spot, so i should be able to anticipate right? NO. my brain temporary goes numb and i forget. Arghhhh


                                      • RIP Mr. Wonderful. That is very sad. Hugs. Even difficult horses have loveable parts.
                                        My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                        • Suzie - So glad you are getting some rain! I can't imagine what a relief it is for you.

                                          Rider - I know some horses that are just more prone to getting thrush, esp. in climates like you're describing. My own horse gets thrush from time to time, but I don't think it's ever impacted him to the point of lameness. At any rate, you have every right to take your time and make the decision that's right for you. In a lease situation, just make sure there is a clause in the contract that gives you an "out" if the horse is unusable for any extended period of time (e.g., more than 2 weeks), or at least a reduced rate for the period of time the horse is unusable.

                                          PF - Fingers crossed for the makeover! I didn't know much about it before, so it's exciting to follow your journey.

                                          Faye - So sorry about Mr. Wonderful! Sending you hugs.

                                          Lucky - When's your next ride?


                                          We had a break in the rain long enough that I was finally able to ride outside again! I got to pop over a few small crossrails on Saturday. On Sunday I had a dressage lesson in our outdoor court. I was getting stir-crazy in the indoor, which isn't really big enough to do serious lateral work, so it was great. I managed to end my ride with a really solid canter down the centerline with a halt at I. Not having practiced those in ages, I was really pleased.

                                          Here's the biggest news of the weekend. On Sunday one of the pony-kids at the barn decided to buy new halters and lead ropes for a few of the horses. So cute, right? My horse (a chestnut) ended up with a neon orange nylon halter. He looks like a traffic cone, but the whole thing is so adorable. The other halter was turquoise and ended up going to a palomino, and the color combination actually looks pretty good!