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  • Lucky - STILL windy here today! Plus some ran showers thrown in. G was fine until I asked for one canter transition going into the wind and rain - I got a leaping departure and a head toss! His way of saying he’d had enough of the crazy weather! Plus, someone had the gall to park a new, shiny trailer in the field next to the ring (heavens!). I probably should be glad of the cloud cover, I can’t imagine what he would have thought if the sun was reflecting off it. I’ve decided the Universe is just throwing all this stuff at me so I’ll believe I’m braver than I think, it just might be working.....


    • Lucky, did you watch the game? What a great game!
      My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


      • SuzieQNutter - I get horribly motion sick, I don’t have to be reading, just need to look out the window too much. I’ve even gotten car sick driving. It’s awful. So, yeah, lunging isn’t fun!

        I’m going to try to catch up on comments tomorrow... I’m terrible on weekends.

        But, I had a great lesson yesterday. We rode outside for the first time. I worked myself up into a state of anxiety and was given a choice, but the indoor was crowded. He was definitely energized outside, but happy and like everything else we’ve done, didn’t put one foot wrong. We did a tone of walking, just exploring the ring, then the same at the trot, integrating a pole (he loves trotting over a pole). Surprise to all of us, we cantered as well. Left lead started off sketchy because he didn’t want to pick it up and instead of being patient, I added leg... rule of cantering right now? Let him pick it up in his own time... but take two was gorgeous and relaxed. Right lead I was nervous because I lost his brain to a horse walking around the property, but a little trotting got him back (he does nothing wrong). Best right lead canter ever. Relaxed and smooth.

        Big issue? Saddle doesn’t work. It fits him but is throwing me terribly forward. But, trainer doesn’t want me to buy anything until we get him muscled up. She has one I can use when I haul over but the seat is small (I’m not a 16). I have one more old saddle to try in basement. Seat is too big and it might be too narrow, but... friend is also going to send me an old Zaldi to try as well that’s worked on a bunch of thoroughbreds. Saddles! I’m pretty sure he’ll be fine in a Pessoa or something but I’m definitely going to follow trainer’s advice for now. Ahhh!


        • Okay, some news. Seems we are getting another horse. The reason is kind of complicated and I don't want to air it online. But we have one we are going to go look at on Wednesday. There were two we showed our trainer and he liked one and said the other is "an accident waiting to happen". is easily down to one. Wish I could say more, but at this point I don't feel comfortable. This horse is cute, though. He raced recently, but from video you wouldn't guess it. My plan would likely be to give him a few months of rest and turnout. If you want more info, PM me or email me. Otherwise, I will let it unfold as I can.
          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


          • PF: I am super excited for you and curious AF, but understand! Let us know when you are ready!! How's Tay?

            Lost: So kicking myself, I shoud've rented a car and come to meet you. Turns out that i was down around 9am and my flight out wasn't until 6pm. You are right with the wind!! The palm trees were swinging like crazy!

            Pompeii: Agree with trainer to wait till he muscles up and settle! Good job for dealing with nerves


            • Faye, Tay's swelling is down, and his leg is warm, but not as hot as it was, so I think he is mending! Thanks for asking. Maybe I will trot him on the line tomorrow and see how he is moving.

              I will tell more about the mystery horse later this week.
              My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


              • Lost- you are definitely brave, keep up the hard work!

                PF- exciting about a new horse. Yep, we watched the game and are super excited!

                Pompeii- Good for you for pushing yourself to ride outside your comfort zone, literally. I think it's sometimes easier to control the "up" outside, as there's more ways and options to channel the energy due to more space. That said, I'm usually more anxious outside vs inside and I get to ride Miss Been There Done That.

                Had a lesson in bravery today, for sure. With the rains we had here yesterday, the arena had areas of water, however since it's a sand mix, it wasn't slippery, just sloppy.

                I did my warmup and almost all the walk breaks without stirrups. I had a very UP Pony today, and man did I ever learn what a crutch the Pelham can be. We used the snaffle and it was hard work. We had moments of awesome, and moments of disagreements. Fab even gave her highest compliment "you sat up and rode the hair off that Pony".

                It was all I could do not to raise my stirrups back up a hole, but I kept them at the longer length and am practicing being long and stretchy. Towards the end, at the forward trot, I had long legs and had my heels even, if that makes sense. It felt like I didn't even have stirrups, even though I most certainly did. Pony kept pushing to canter, as it was easier than the forward working trot balancing herself.

                It looks like showing this year won't be at That Arena after all, so I'm glad I got my chance for redemption earlier, for free. Fab is looking at putting on several shows close to the barn and I'm so excited. Hopefully it means cheaper, so I could do more than one, and it would still be a new arena for us, so all kinds of potential for fun and excitement


                • I'm going to amend one of my goals-
                  1. Riding in a horse show off property and not have a come-apart.
                  a. Only use the Pelham for show practice closer to show time, using the snaffle for schooling.


                  • Pompeii argh on the motion sickness. When are they finally going to invent transporters? Yay on the canter.

                    Oh PF so exciting. The other thought is man you are so motivated to have the work of another horse!! lf that takes you up to 3 then you will have the same as us, or do you have more now?

                    When I bought Andy he had raced 5 weeks ago. I worked him 15 minutes a day. He was fine and oh so smart. He didn't need any time to chill.

                    I rode Sim yesterday so another day Stars didn't get done. I swear a hubby is worse than a child. I told him to do his part of the tax all weekend. No he wanted to watch TV etc. In the late afternoon he was lunging Sim. I grabbed my helmet and gloves and told him he did not have time to ride. He had to do his part of the tax that I am taking in first thing in the morning.

                    I figured out why he was so happy with Sim. It comes down to 2 sayings. It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than 35 minutes on a Sunday. And never do the same thing twice.

                    Sim has been worked most days with hubby having come off. I have done long and low in walk, around the arena, across the diagonal and around the other way. Long in low in trot the same then change the diagonal and canter a circle, trot go large, change across the diagonal, canter a circle the other way and then do the same trot and canter collected.

                    So when hubby changed the diagonal Sim was anticipating canter and was more forward. So it wasn't actually hubby, so I will hold off on the next level of him using legs for sideways and not forward as he is not up to it yet.

                    His canter in long and low was lovely. He had so much more control over himself. The daily workout with lunging when hubby does it has worked quite quickly. He was also very good as it was very windy and Stars was being naughty and running up and down the driveway with the stallion next door doing the same on their side.

                    Sim never took any notice of the gale or the shenanigans.
                    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                    • Suzy, I have three now. This would be number four.


                      Okay, the trip to see the pony has been pushed to Saturday.
                      My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                      • PF: Fingers crossed for you!!! I'm so glad Tay is heading to the right directions! will jingle for him!!

                        Suzie: I 10/10 agree with you that husbands are like kids :P

                        Pony: I LOVE that you make changes to your goals ! They are not meant to be set in stone! Good job for practicing bravery!!

                        I was on my way to gym, and my phone alerted me, 30 min till lesson. WHAT LESSON?? i had a lesson tue/wed and Thur, why do i have another lesson today??? (my trainer uses google calendars, and i'm not the best with my personal email). I will have to set it so her email comes to my work email. I just don't want my mid-day lessons (occasional) to show up on my work calendar!

                        Luckily my gym is near the barn, so i made it in time, in my gym clothes. Yoga pants and sweatshirt. I borrowed someone's half chap that's 5x my size but it worked!!
                        I was on the trusty wild mustang today and made my ride way easier, less cardio (scary) and more focus on myself!

                        Hope everyone got some good ride on the weekend!


                        • Wow, PF. I am certainly intrigued! Can't wait to hear more! Jingles for Tay.
                          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                          • Found this thread in a link from another thread. I had my first 30 min lesson in few years on Friday - I'm still sore! Just trotting with some 2 point over a ground pole

                            Looking forward to joining this thread!


                            • LOL Faye. Isn't technology wonderful.

                              Sigh. I hate horses and should really take up ice skating. No problem with being in one of the hottest countries on Earth right.

                              One of the reasons I like having horses at home is that you are not affected by what other people do.

                              Nope didn't work. I rode Sim because of hubby being a child. I had gone out to ride Stars but didn't. Star was only out because hubby was tacking Sim. Stars hurt himself galloping up and down the driveway, which he only started out of jealousy when I hopped on Sim..... and only because of extra energy as hubby keeps over feeding. I have been telling him to cut down for months.

                              Exactly the same as last time. He lunges okay. I mount okay. He walks okay. He REFUSES to trot. When I make hi instead of trotting on happily he goes 3 strides and stops. He didn't do anything other than that last time but I brought hi out of the arena and he immediately went to trot.

                              So I hopped off. I think last time me continuing to ride him only kept him from healing.

                              I was going to give him 1 - 3 months off, but I might continue to groom, tack and take him for walks. It doesn't seem to hurt him to walk.

                              Actually he doesn't seem to hurt when I am on him in walk, so maybe I could get on and just walk as well.
                              Last edited by SuzieQNutter; Jan. 14, 2020, 04:59 PM.
                              It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                              • Welcome, Pehsness. Jump right in.
                                My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                • Pehsness- welcome, welcome. Nothing like two-point to make you work muscles you forgot you had!

                                  Suzie's comment about tack walking got me wondering..... what's the purpose of walking tacked without riding? I've heard of it loads for rehab, and I've always wondered what it is about the tacking and walking that is beneficial?

                                  PF- I just added the Music Country Grand Prix to my ask off work schedule. I can't wait- getting to watch hunters, jumpers and GP is like Christmas, since we're not going to spectate at Germantown.


                                  • Remind me, lucky, when the show nears. Trainer will be there. So I can come watch and say hello.
                                    My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                    • Second lesson today... looking forward to it! it was so much fun being back in a lesson environment again. I just bought a trailer so looking forward to getting it and hauling my own horse in for lessons. I bought him 2 years ago but he's been living the life of riley with just the odd trail ride and "schooling" session in my makeshift ring (aka the front yard).


                                      • Originally posted by luckymaverick View Post

                                        Suzie's comment about tack walking got me wondering..... what's the purpose of walking tacked without riding? I've heard of it loads for rehab, and I've always wondered what it is about the tacking and walking that is beneficial?
                                        Lucky there are a few reasons that I have for tacking him to take him for a walk. He is injured and refuses to trot. This has happened before. He has pulled a muscle deep in his chest and it hurts to lift his legs to trot so trotting and cantering are out. At this point I dont know if my weight is also a problem. It doesn't seem to be, but I can walk with him for a week and then start walking on him if I think that is okay. I walk with him. The reins are doubled over his head. I am not actually leading him. Like 2 friends out for a walk. He has had this training since he has arrived. He doesn't see it as unusual.

                                        He loves attention and tacking him is part of his liberty training to stand still while I go in and out of the shed.

                                        He is very cold backed when out of work, to the point of bucking when being saddled. This is not something he wants to do. He doesn't want to do it. It is a reaction. If I put the girth on every day it helps with him not bucking when tacked up. Other things that help is I groom his legs etc after placing the saddle and girth on loose to warm up. I pick his hooves and oil them. Comb his mane.

                                        When I put his bridle on I do not put the reins over his head first. If he starts the bucking with the reins over his head. You are still attached to the bridle. This is not a good situation to be in. He jumps more than putting his head down and not in a straight line.

                                        I put the lunging cavesson on and take off the lunging rein.

                                        With a normal girth I used to back him first. That stopped him bucking. At the last PRARG sale I bought a cair girth. Reviews say they are for girthy horses. The wideness is supposed to help a lot.

                                        I have told him this. He has told me he does not want to back in that girth before moving forward. To the point that with a hand on his nose and a thumb touched on his chest and me saying back, the whole horse did not go back and he started shaking from head to toe.

                                        Since he did that I just stand 12 feet away from him wearing my helmet and gloves and holding a lunge whip and 2 dressage whips under my arm. I let him take a bit of time and walk forward and come to me. I then click on the lunge rope.

                                        For any horse I think a bit in the mouth and a girth around their waist is something physically that it is better to be on every day than once a week. Especially Sim. If he has had time off you need him to get used to those 2 things again. They are all thoroughbreds so pretty sensitive flowers.

                                        Mentally I think it helps as it is a routine that you follow, they know what is going to happen and that calms a horse.

                                        You can bond with your horse. You can have deep and meaningfuls, it is a free therapy session! After hubby has gone to work, so he doesn't think you are a fruit cake.

                                        ... and whatever you decide to do in life it will cost you. It will cost you dollars, time and or water. Tacking him up only costs minutes of time, it is free and doesn't cost water in this severe drought.
                                        Last edited by SuzieQNutter; Jan. 14, 2020, 05:03 PM.
                                        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                        • Hope you had a great lesson, pehs.
                                          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover: