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  • Dwpc- what a great step in your riding. Pictures would be appreciated, please One summer I had the opportunity to half-lease the schoolie I was in love with. Sunny and I had many adventures and I got much more confident. He was the most "square" horse, hard-won flexibility, but could jump anything you pointed him at. What a pretty Strawberry Roan- wish I had a picture to share.

    PF- jingles for Tay! He's beyond due for a break. And yes, I do think the color coordination had something to do with me feeling so sassy and confident yesterday Oh, btw, Fab is thinking of putting on some shows this spring/summer instead of the Big Show in M'boro. I can keep you updated, as we usually have decent open classes and I'm sure she could add Suitability for Dressage or whatever you would need, if you wanted to bring Tay.


    • Congrats, dwpc!! Post a pic when you can.
      My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


      • Hi everyone. Sorry I have been MIA. I've been busy with family and travel--DH and I accompanied our college church group to a big annual denominational conference, and we just got back a couple of days ago. I'm still putting Christmas decorations away, and now it's time to get ready for the spring semester.

        I have not ridden much over the entire break. We had really bad weather--pretty constant rain. Wish I could send it to southeastern Australia, Suzie. The news and pictures from there are terrifying. I went down to ride yesterday, and no one was around. I waited around, groomed Sky, tried the new Baker halter she won in our local circuit on her, filled her water bucket, fed the cats, and found a few other odd and ends to do, but no one came, and I couldn't wait around any more, so I went home. Maybe I will have better luck today. I will go a bit earlier. Mid day seems to be quiet time at the barn. I need to get us back in shape--we have a show coming up at the end of January. Speaking of getting back in shape, Lucky--I also begin my rides with a couple of laps with no stirrups. Maybe that would be something you could try--start by walking and work yourself up to a bit of trot, etc., Love your goals, by the way! A bit of a challenge but very healthy and positive.

        Greys, good luck finding Sandro a great home. He's such a lovely horse--I'm sure it will happen soon. Someone in our barn is looking. Do you have a link to an ad I could send their way? The rider is young, about 13, and is sprouting up rapidly. She's going to be tall. She just spent a year on a lovely old campaigner they leased doing the 2'6"--she's ready to move up, and they are having trouble finding something. They do a few A shows every year. It might not be possible budget-wise, but on the other hand, it might be perfect. PM me if you want.

        We had a scare with Lulu. On Christmas Day, she suddenly lost control of her hind end. She could barely stand up and could not control her bladder. The vet was closed, so we couldn't do anything until the next day. She was worse--could not stand up at all--but she did not seem to be in much pain. We took her to the vet, who after examining her said it seemed to be a slipped disc, very common in dogs with her build (short legs and long back). Surgery was prohibitive, and he did not recommend it anyway. We opted to leave her there for treatment and observation. They gave her anti-inflammatories and antibiotics. (Her skin had gotten bad again, so the treatment served two purposes.) After 12 days at the vet (we ended up boarding her there while we were away at the conference, which we would have done anyway), she is considerably better. She can walk and run a little, can pee and poop by herself, and is less itchy. She is a little wobbly behind, but we can deal with that. She was so glad to see us again and to be at home. She even tried to chase the cats, which she had not done for some time!

        I'm attaching two pics, one of Sky in her new halter and the other of Lulu napping this morning. You can see she's wearing a sweater and is covered with a towel. She enjoys being warm.
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        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


        • lucky, thank you so much for thinking of me with regards to the show. Keep me posted. I am not sure Tay will ever be good at the classes where he's with other horses. After my flat-class fiasco at MTSU, I talked to my trainer. He did say that's really not his thing, and if I do hunters, to use a pelham, not a snaffle. So we may concentrate on dressage and jumpers. Funny, because he's fine at home with Jazzy in the ring, but I guess home is always different. I can't recall, do you guys have an indoor? Does Fab allow trailer-ins (for a fee)? I'm thinking just to school. I"d love to get him out and off home turf some time.
          My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


          • Dewey, I hope you get some time to just relax! Sky looks lovely in her halter. That's really cute. And AWWW on Lulu. I'm glad she's feeling better. And I'm so happy she is with you and is being taken care of. She's a lucky pup. Her picture is adorable!!!
            My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


            • Cupid: How was your lesson? Bet you guys had fun! Dressage or jumping?

              PF: Poor Tay, i hope you have some good news from the vet. Jingles for you all!

              Lucky: I have knots before my lessons as well! Sometimes it depends on who I'm riding since now i'm back to riding schoolies. Also depends on who my group lesson is with, i'm sort of in the middle, so when i ride with the less experienced, the fences are lower and less complicated courses, that totally helps!

              Lost: I absolutely hate the wind. Last week i was riding in loud a$$ wind/rain and I was spooking myself the whole time.

              Greys: I'm glad that you identified grass turnout is the best solution for Sandro, even if this trial didn't work out, you know thats what he needs. He will land in a good home for sure. Seems like you are having fun doing eq (back at it!!!), you are one of the most elegant riders so i look forward to seeing more videos on your eq classes!!

              DWPC: Exciting indeed!!! Saddle time is so important if you have been out of saddle for awhile! When I first started riding (I am not a re-rider, but adult beginner!), i leased school horses and it was the best decision for me! One of them I've leased for 2 years and is my forever heart horse. (Toff) So excited to hear stories from your new horse!

              Dewey: Ah, christmas tree and decor is still up in my house! Spent so much time putting them up, might as well enjoy them for a little longer!! I am so sorry about Lulu, but glad that he's doing better!! I swear, pets always come up with issues on weekends, holidays. Jingles to him!

              Suzie: I saw a ton of videos of Australia from social media and i am terrified to watch. The poor animals. Sending heaps of jingles your way for rain.

              My travel for the next 2 months is very stressful, but i am fitting in my lessons when i'm home. I had a fantastic lesson yesterday doing some cross rails and low verticals, focusing on when to sit "heavier" and lighten up, and also, don't pull over fence! It was a great lesson.


              • Faye - I ended up only getting half a lesson because my shoer came out to do Cupid's feet so we started quite late. But it was good having someone keeping my accountable - apparently my newest bad habit is raising my left shoulder. I'm getting ready for a dressage show later this month so that's what we worked on. I haven't had a jumping lesson in at least 6 months since we've been making such good progress on our dressage I've just been too excited to keep working on that! (I prefer jumping by myself so I can pick and choose what I want to do! Last week I was feeling brave so we jumped those butterflies in my pic, and a little coop. But I probably would not want to if someone told me to do it!))


                • TC, do you have the same trainer for dressage and jumping?
                  My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                  • I am so happy to find this thread! I have lurked here for YEARS under a different name (since 2001!), but since I am finally officially now a re-rider I decided to join again under a new name. I've been faffing about on lesson horses during my daughters lessons, but I had my first lesson in 10+ years with a hunter/jumper trainer last week and am so excited! What was no so exciting: Putting on breeches again.


                    • Awwwwww poor Ty and Lulu.

                      LOL MC. Do you know any of us, or are we all new since you were here last?

                      Dewey I have been letting hubby go up and do Sim by himself, he needs to be able to handle him without me there.

                      He pointed out that if he came off he would lie there for an hour before I found him.

                      I pointed out that as he was going to visit his father that night after work and would be going to work before coming home I would be lying there for way over 24 hours before he finds me.
                      I do not think he will come off as he has learned that Sim has to be be forward and how to do that and me being there and telling him that he can't do what he was trying to do and he went and did it anyway and came off, so me being there didn't stop him coming off anyway.
                      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                      • Paradox - yes same trainer, the one you met at the TB Makeover! She is primarily an eventer but does/has done a bit of everything so it's a good fit for me because I like to try different things. Her mare (an irish sporthorse) is going prelim eventing and 3rd level dressage, and has shown the 1.1 jumpers and done a hunter derby! She also did an endurance race on one of her previous event horses.


                        • Good point, Suzie. However, our barn rules don't allow riding unless someone else is present. A few years ago, another adult border had a terrible accident while alone. She was grazing her horse or something (no one actually knew what happened as she was alone when it happened--she was not mounted though), and her horse apparently spooked and barged into her, resulting in a very serious head injury. She was knocked out and was not found until her fiance came to the barn looking for her. She was very seriously injured and had to be airlifted off the property; it took several months before she recovered fully. She never was able to remember exactly what happened. Ever since then I have been extra careful when I arrive at the barn when no one is there, and I never ride when alone.
                          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                          • Dewey- thanks for the no-stirrups tip. I'm easing into it by doing all my walk warm up without stirrups and depending on how Pony goes, I may add trotting as well. First few laps she's not as forward anyway, less chance of hitting dirt/sand. That's so scary about Lulu- I'm so glad she's on the mend. My dog Lucky had a slipped disc last year and now we have her on a joint supplement all the time. She loves it.

                            PF- I will certainly ask Fab. We have a covered arena- down a slope and enclosed on three sides. I would highly recommend "earbuds"- aka earplugs, as there are ponies turned out all around the outside of the arena. I would love to share my happy place with you and Tay. I'll email you Fab's info.


                            • Lucky - I *love* your goals for 2020. I fully believe you can accomplish them.

                              Lost - Bee is so cute! Hope Remy feels better soon.

                              EqJ - Congrats on Fiona!

                              TC - Sorry your lesson got cut short, that's a bummer! How often do you ride w/ your trainer? What show are you planning to go to? Any plans to come to the winter dressage series at Rancho Murieta?

                              Greys - Losing fitness happens *so* fast! I took a 2 week vacation to Mexico in late 2019 and was shocked how sore I was the first time I went back to the gym after. I also felt pretty winded on my first ride back. Hope you have fun at Thermal and in Florida!

                              Suzie - Glad the air quality is better these days. The photos/videos I've seen in the past few weeks coming out of Australia have been really awful. Of course I'm in California so I can relate - luckily our fire season this year wasn't awful.

                              Dewey - Glad Lulu is doing better. I can't imagine how scary that must have been!


                              I started 2020 off with the flu, which was unpleasant but gave me a good chance to catch up on tv. During my lesson last week I was so sick my trainer had to help tack up my horse, and I had a walk/trot lesson which was mostly at the walk, if I'm being honest. My horse didn't seem to mind . I was finally feeling a little better this past weekend and got to pop over a course of crossrails which was so much fun. I think I'm battling a sinus infection or something now, but it's much improved from last week! That will teach me to skip out on the flu shot in the future...


                              • Dewey: Call me chicken, but i absolutely do not like to ride alone, rewind to when i first started riding, taking Katie alone on trail and canter around *face palm*, my old barn has a ton of horses and riders, so never an issue. Current barn can be more quiet but i never have to ride alone. You just never know.

                                EQJ: Totally forgot to congrat you about Fiona!!!

                                MT: I have to admit, sometimes riding a course of crossrail can be so fun! Take out the hairy jumps (height, technicality) and just have fun!

                                Jamming my lessons in before my trips- today's lesson was not so pretty. Baby mare was sassy and refuse to turn. bolt after landing each jump and turn the opposite direction of where I wanted her. Luckily she is tiny and I can muscle her around a bit, but i can't say I am that brave. We ended up on a good note after trainer hop on and school the crap out of her. She's much braver and i can see how much she was being a pickle. I felt like my jumping position is getting way better and i'm having a much better understanding about distances. This mare is trying to figure things out and i know she will take a long spot, so with that in mind, i am less left behind. Learning so much.


                                • Popping into this thread after not participating in...years. I think when I last posted in this thread, I was having issues with my gelding who has now been retired for 3-4 years. Anyway, since then, I've become a lesson rider again and much more confident and in November, I lost my other gelding (my steady, eddy bombproof trail horse) to a horrific colic -- I'm still recovering. With the gelding I lost, I never worried about riding solo because, while horses are horses, he was one who I could get on after 6 months off, and he was the same horse. I took him out on trails alone and my biggest fear was getting lost, not having issues.

                                  Anyway, I adopted a green OTTB in December (my retired senior wasn't coping well and I almost lost him to grief) and now I find myself in a different situation. My new guy is a good egg, but... it's not the same--obviously! We haul out for every ride and lesson and he's better each time (I have to carry him back to the trailer because he gets tired and relaxed very easily and endurance isn't his friend yet).

                                  That said, in the beginning, I did take my husband out every ride (or, I'd be in a lesson). That said, to him, it's like watching paint dry. Finally, last weekend, I went out solo to find an almost empty barn (though I think someone was inside for all but 10 minutes of my ride). I call when I get on, call when I get off, and he's 5 minutes away if he doesn't hear from me after a certain number of minutes (my rides are currently 20-25 minutes). I'm not sure if this is safe, but... I also wear an apple watch with fall detection (I bought this for solo trail rides). He will keep coming out if I ask, but, at the same time, I know that this will limit the amount I ride which will also make my rides less safe in a sense.

                                  How do people ride regularly if they don't have anyone around consistently? Especially hauling out for every ride (I have no place to ride at home right now). I'm taking a lesson this weekend so that ride is covered, but... It's really challenging! Thankfully he's quiet and a good egg, but it's so hard being a working adult!


                                  • Having
                                    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                    • Having someone else around is a good policy, but not if they are expecting boarders to cover that. I would expect staff members to be around if that rule was in place.

                                      I guess I have always ridden alone. Mum was always home as she ran a business from home. We put in a dressage arena and we had a show jump paddock.

                                      I grew up on Pepper's back. I would take him out for hours including gallop around the Daisy Hill State Forest. It was a trek to get to there. Nowadays, no horses allowed on the way we used to get there and not allowed in the forest.

                                      The twice I have landed in Hospital (touchwood) I was walking on a loose rein. Not galloping. Not jumping not cross countrying.

                                      The first time as a kid I slipped off bareback when the pony turned the opposite way to the way I asked I put my arm out and broke both bones in my wrist. A common injury for young girls learning to ride apparently. GET BACK ON then Mum saw my hand and I was taken over the road to the Hospital.

                                      The second was because of being a beginner and not knowing about contact and collection. Pepper had a soft mouth, why would you want to pick up the reins?

                                      Because, all that time I was riding him on the forehand. He had a 6 foot long, carpet snake neck! All those years with his weight and mine on his front legs.

                                      I was at Ponyclub.

                                      He stumbled, went down, came up for less than a second and fell sideways

                                      My helmet hit the ground first and he ploughed me 6 foot across the ground. I was knocked unconscious. I dont remember anything from hours before or after.

                                      Mum, matron in a Hospital in her earlier days, kicked me and told me to get up. I did ride but when I couldn't remember the showjumping course, that I helped put up the day before, had already walked and they were saying there is 1, there is 2, they wouldn't let me ride.

                                      I threw a tantrum!!!!

                                      The only thing I do remember is Mum locking me in the car I was so bad. I was 15yo. I was able to think
                                      I know how to get out of here.

                                      Someone else rode Pepper home. I was taken to Hospital and spent the night as I was still not right on the way home and I spent the next day calling people to thank them for their help and to apologise for my behaviour.

                                      Pompeii I am now classically trained for dressage. I have worked with horses. I would put me in the experienced category after a lifetime with horses.

                                      I am aware that it is the experienced sailor who drowns.

                                      I put my riding alone down to 2 things. First of all my horses are not hyped up on grain. Fat yes. But sane.

                                      Second of all I know how to lunge correctly. Which does not take long. Lunging is just as fascinating as riding. I can work a horse on the lunge, so in Dewey's case I would lunge. If someone arrives I just take off the side reins and cavesson. Unwrap the reins and put them over the head and I am already wearing gloves and a helmet to hop on and ride. If no one appears the horse will have been worked anyway.

                                      Also with an experienced eye, I can tell if it is not a good idea to get on. Nowadays only with bringing them back into work. Once in work they are pretty good.

                                      When Sim first came he had to be lunged to be ridden and if he had a day off, you lunged without riding. Nowadays he does not need to be lunged, but hubby is lunging him before riding, as Sim has had time off and it benefits Sim with correct muscle being used and developed, as hubby is not up to that level riding wise yet, but can lunge him at a higher level.

                                      it also gets Sim more forward as Hubby does not have that down pat yet.

                                      I am lunging Stars as he is being brought back into work and he is cold backed.

                                      We also have the plastic cages on the stirrups that prevent your foot going through to be dragged.

                                      I lunge with solid side reins. Controversial I know but elastic side reins teach horses to lean and pull. Battery is failing so I will end here. I can explain that further if you want.
                                      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                      • Welcome back, Pompeii! Sorry about your loss.


                                        I wanted to pipe in about riding alone. I know I mentioned this when it happened, but a riding acquaintance that used to come here to ride on occasion had a few horses. She was a very intelligent scientist who worked at Vanderbilt. But she would ride alone. Well, one day the barn owner found her horse in the barn area. When they found the rider, she was dead. Not sure what happened. She was wearing a helmet. Every since then, I've been really reluctant to ride alone. She was a good rider. Accidents happen. That scares me.

                                        So, you all, if you ride alone, I suggest you at least tell someone where you are and when you'll be done, and then you check in with them when you are off your horse. I am started to try to use Road ID for this purpose. I'll let you know how it works. I want to test it while my DH is home.
                                        My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                                        • I also think when it is your time to go it doesn't matter where you are or what you are doing.

                                          You could be sitting on the couch at home or you could be sitting on a horse. You decide which one you want to be on.
                                          It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.