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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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    Good luck, Dewey! Get pics.
    My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


      greys I can certainly understand wanting to move. The videos we see of the houses burning and horses running wild everywhere with people trying frantically to rescue them are truly terrifying. I can't imagine living there with the threat of that always in the back of your mind. Good luck at the show. Glad both of your boys are safe there.

      Dewey Glad to hear Sky is doing well and back on track. Good luck and as PF said, take lots of pics for us!

      We had another winter storm, Two of them before Nov is not normal at all. This one was snow/rain/ice/sleet and turned into a frozen, slick mess. Thankfully it warmed up and melted off the roads by afternoon. I'm sooo not mentally prepared for winter! I have all my winter horsekeeping ducks in a row so at least I don't have to worry about that.

      Here's a pic from our last ride. We're very lucky to have conservation land close that has a great trail system. 26 miles of trails with varying degrees of difficulty. As much as I dislike the hunting and the periodic logging, that is what pays for the conservation land and maintenance.

      This is Bugs the old man after a bath this summer. He's 27 and needs a little TLC to stay in good weight but he's doing well for his age. He was just ripping around the pasture like a 2 yo this morning.

      This is Short and Buddy the mule, as you can see they look a lot alike other than ear size. Short is 18 and Buddy is 12. Short is the horse DH rides.

      I have one more horse, Quincy, but I can't find any decent pics of him. I'll have to take some.

      Hope you all have good rides this weekend!!


        AFM- lovely pics, your older guy especially looks so handsome. I am so not ready for winter either. We had our first light frost and scraping the car at 6:30 almost did me in this morning

        Greys- thinking of you and hoping your rides are positive/good ones, especially with all that's going on.

        Planning to ride Sunday, and now that he's on property, I'll have pics of our newest schoolie Justin. He's a pretty grey, very dishy, from the one pic Fab had. I wanted to wait until he was officially part of our herd before I said anything. He's from Mississippi by way of Alabama.


          Did any of you guys feel like you had a struggle with your confidence when you went back to jumping? I jumped some tiny stuff on one of my trainer's horses yesterday, which was the first time I'd jumped anything in months, and there was a little part of my brain that was thinking it looked mighty big. It wasn't.

          On the other hand, jumping when you have lower expectations for yourself is way fun, I almost got bucked off at one point but was laughing the whole time.


            Good Grief -- I am totally with you on this. I too am a SENIOR reRider and it is very difficult to get the younger rider out of my head. Yesterday, my trainer said -- so when I was young I played the piano very well. Really well -- I stopped because I did other things-- riding etc. A couple of years ago, I thought I wanted to play the piano again and I sat down to play -- no way. I was really glad she said that as it helped me to realize that I have to let go of what was and deal with what is. I was riding a lovely OTTB - I grew up riding TB's and I just love how they want to go forward. I was showing in the AO's and my trainer finally said-- horseshowing is expensive and if you want to be competitive you probably need to change gears -- meaning warmblood. I have never felt so much like I have no idea how to ride! I have been working hard at it for the last 2 years, but I sometimes don't think I have the legs to make him go first and stay straight second. So I hear you all! That being said -- I am pretty determined and even at 65 -- I WILL make it happen!! Hang in there!!


              SS- now granted my jumping is now limited to crossrails and teeny verticals, but yes, I think everything looks bigger the more time away. I find my willingness to jump whatever/whenever has also dimmed

              Had a so-so ride today. Pony was UP and forward. She was her old, old self, pre-IR. I had so much Pony that the wonderful leg yielding exercise off a turn at the collected trot was an exercise in absolute frustration. To quote Fab, "your butt is moving way too much, you know that's not right (way to do it)."
              On the plus side, we had some lovely working trot sets.

              Met the new horse, Justin. He's solid, late teens, and looks, to my untrained eye, at least 15.2, chunkier style like Pony. Not sure how much he knows or was taught. Someone younger and braver can find out, unless Fab decides I can handle it.

              When I got there this morning, all the horses were talking, Justin was being playful, Pony was very playful. I figured they were just glad to see me, until Pony made the ugly faces. Fab arrived then and remarked that Pony was just showing her displeasure at the late breakfast time


                Dewey: So glad Sky is back to old self and have fun!!

                Lucky: Saw pic of Justin on IG, LOVE!!! Will you be riding him at all? I promise i won't tell Pony

                AFM: I am so jealous of your trail system! So good to see some of your herd ! Arghh i'm not ready for winter, and this will be my first winter at the new barn!

                SS: I was thiking about the same thing this morning, and honestly it depends a ton on the horse i'm riding. I never had any hiatus, just a late starter!

                Had a ton of travel and a ton more coming up. Was gone for a week and had that same feeling of SS, oh dear, how does it feel to jump again? Trainer put me on her new school horse, a 4 year old thats cute as a button. She was really fresh that day but i was told she normally is very quiet. A lot of thoughts go through my mind, do i have hot driving seat that's making her like this? But today was so different! She was SUPER, the best ride i've done for a long time. Packed me around some small fences and made me feel like a million bucks!


                  AFM - I love your photos - Bugs looks great!!

                  Supershorty - I definitely don't have the confidence I used to, which ultimately led to me primarily focusing on dressage. Now I just jump my horse at home on occasion when I feel like it, no pressure so it's fun. But I never competed on as high a level as you, I didn't have the confidence for that even at my prime

                  Tallboots - As a fellow OTTB owner, I am very disheartened by your trainer's statement! Way too broad a generalization! There are definitely TBs that can show at top levels! (Just as there are WBs that would rather do something else)

                  Not much news with me. I think I'm done showing for the year, so we'll spend the next month working towards moving up to First level, then I'll probably give Cupid a few weeks off in December and then get back at it hopefully refreshed.


                    Faye- If I can be brave and if he's broke enough, I would love to ride Justin. He seems huge- stockier than Pony and she's a flippin sofa Loved your new pic on IG as well- what's her breeding? Forward could have just been being 4. I'm glad you have rides that make you feel invincible. Since you and I are of similar height, do you feel different on the smaller horses/ponies? I know Toff was 15.2ish and the venerable Bobby was 17ish. I think I prefer fluffier mounts as the height increases, and definitely more comfortable on smaller horses for the most part, not counting Chico.

                    TC- moving up sounds fun- what movements are added at First Level?

                    As I thought about my lesson from yesterday, I know part of our pace/lack of collection had to do with bit choice. She's always more forward in the snaffle, and I was less than thrilled with our last ride in the pelham so I figured why not go back to basics. Neither of us are fit enough to do the fun dressage basics in the snaffle- I don't know how the dressage riders do it! On the one hand, for Pony, snaffle always means fun and pelham/kimberwicke always mean work/show. Heck, we ran (at the fast trot/occasional canter strides) barrels and poles in the snaffle, so I know the adjustability is there somewhere.

                    I just really thought Miss Turn on A Dime with Change could pull off the collected trot down the long side, change rein, leg yield to the wall. The working trot version was a hot mess, so we attempted collection. We never really got it and she kept getting stronger and stronger. My shoulders/arms are so sore today! Of course all the wrong trotting made my neck hurt, which, to Pony's credit, hasn't happened in a while. The only walk breaks I added in were for that- otherwise, I made Pony and I keep trucking.


                      TC: Yay for moving up!! I'm sure Cupid is excited to get some time off. I can't remember if he's the same horse in the winter?

                      Lucky: Good question!! I'm super comfortable with Toff's size, but i never feel unsafe on 17.3 Bobster, you know, everything is in slow motion on him! Cato is 16H but agile AF, a little scary when he spooks. I mainly worry about the spook, the bolting and bucking so probably nothing to do with size. Toff never bucked, and Cato bucks like eating breakfast. I do enjoy riding smaller horses


                        Faye- i hear you on the spook/bolt/buck. Pony can cow-kick like a champ and now I just growl at her or laugh it off, kick on and off we go. The taller horses, I don't feel as secure- farther from the ground and all that. My old horse wouldn't buck often, however when he did, I went up on his neck every time b/c man he committed to it. He was 15.1 1/2. What breed is the 4 yr old?


                          SS, I hear you. Every time I have a gap in jumping, I feel like I'm starting all over because even 2'6" feels huge. I hate that about myself, but it is there. I haven't jumped in about a year and I had a lesson two weeks ago (trainer does the A-circuit, and I don't, so lessons are few and far between). He set up a cross rail and then a little vertical for me to jump on a new-to-me horse and my goodness, I had quite a bit of trepidation just over that. It's somewhat embarrassing. Didn't help that when I jumped those, I was pretty unbalanced on the landing and my horse didn't really enjoy my style. But I'm working on it. So, yeah, most of us feel what you feel, just at different levels. Hang tough! Do what you're comfortable with for now.

                          Tallboots, I really wish more trainers would be accepting of working with a good TB. A lot of us here do have them and love them. And some (SS!) have done this at the high levels, so it's very doable. You just have to find the right horse. It's not that you have to find the right breed. My opinion, anyway. I wish you luck in finding what you need and what you want. And welcome!

                          Faye, I love that horse you're riding. So pretty. I am a sucker for color. Sounds like you had a great ride. Good for you! (P.S. also always enjoy your Toby pics/videos. Especially Toby in the box. Too funny. I wish Cato wasn't a bucker and spooker. That suck all the fun right out or riding. I totally understand that. I always like to say, buy the brain. The rest will come.

                          TC, I feel like you and your riding decision are similar to mine. I may do more dressage shows next year and jump at home. Right now my jumping skills are lacking. I may do a schooling show in two weeks but only flat. We'll see.

                          lucky, I liked your Chico comment. Hey, you know what, I've really noticed a change in your attitude and riding bravery over the year. You're much stronger and braver. Good for you. You were more worried in the past and you're trusting your riding skills and Pony. Good for you. You've had a good year!


                          I had a really good flat ride yesterday with Tay-Tay (his new affectionate nickname). I felt like we clicked pretty well yesterday. Each ride is getting better. There are two shows coming up in two weeks. I think I may do one. One is a hunter schooling show and one is a combined training event. I've done both in the past (combined with Chico and hunter with Katie), so they're both decent, yet low key schooling shows. I'd like to do the dressage I think BUT that one is in a coliseum that you cannot school in before entering for your test. So I don't feel like I know Tay Tay well enough to go in blind like that. I think I'm probably being a chicken. So the other one is in an indoor as well, but not a coliseum, and you can school the night before. So may just enter a few hunter under saddle classes and just use it as schooling to see how he does away from home. If I wasn't flopping all over the place on landing his jump I would also maybe throw in at least a hunter hack class. Maybe I'll try a few jumps this week and see if I've gotten any better. I've been doing a lot of core workouts (the Debbie Rodriguez videos) and I'm hoping I can see improvement soon.
                          My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                            Lucky: 4 year old is a paint (is that a breed or color??), she literally has one full black leg!! I don't know how you can still laugh at those cow kicks! I would've start sweating!

                            PF: Love the nick name!! I don't blame you, i wouldn't be confident enough to do it without being able to school in the location before hand. Call me a chicken too. Love to hear updates from the show!
                            Thank you for your compliments on silly Toby! She really is something, such a sassy girl.

                            I feel so bad about calling him TSH spooky , for the most part a good boy. Took us a year, in the arena, he is mostly okay, until someone opens a trailer door, or another horse spooks. And then i get yelled at for not able to predict said circumstances. I never felt relaxed with him walking around property or on the trail, when we are alone it's okay, but with another horse, I get nervous AF. He is very sound reactive, (hence how i came off when he heard horses cantering in the water), and his reaction is bolt or buck. I just don't enjoy that at all.


                              Faye- Paint is both a color and a breed, and some are double registered- Paint/Arab, Paint/QH. At least I think I have that right. My favorite large pony from the old days was a Paint names Michelangelo. I promise you would laugh at Pony, too. It took me 4 years of the almost 6 we've been together to get to that point- and your seat is stickier than mine.

                              PF- what kind words, thanks so very much. If my work days are short (assuming it's a Saturday), I'd love to come cheer you and Tay-Tay. Totally love the nickname. It's a joke here at my house- DH and I both like Taylor Swift and there was a Family Guy episode where Stewie is also a fan and keeps saying "oh, tay-tay". I know you and your guy will do great, and you can see how he does in a low key environment.


                                Faye - Cupid is the same in winter. Which is lucky for me, because as you've heard me complain winter is extra cold and long up on our ridge!

                                Lucky - I think pinto is a color and a registry (for any pinto-colored horse regardless of parentage); Paint is a breed (both parentage and color requirements).
                                First-1 adds lengthenings and smaller circles; First-2 adds leg yields, and First-3 adds counter canter.

                                Paradox - Very excited for your show!! Cupid likes some arenas more then others, but whether they are indoor or not doesn't seem to be the determining factor Most indoors he's seemed to like so far I think.



                                  Faye, I don't think you should feel bad about calling Cato spooky. Even one or two good spooks or even those mini bolts, and I'm shaken from that particular horse. Unless they were so small and predictable that I know it won't unseat me. As I get older, I need safer ponies. I don't bounce as well as I used to. Well, I'm not sure I ever bounced well, haha.

                                  lucky, yeah, ha, we used to joke about Taylor Swift being called Tay Tay, and we jokingly called Dante Tay Tay, and now it stuck. It works for him, though. And I'd love to see you if you can make it out to Miller on the 17th. It's a Sunday. It's part of the MTSU Stock Horse show. But they do a full day of hunter classes in the auxiliary arena. I'm about 90% sure I'll go.

                                  TC, I'm getting excited, too. I've had a few horses that were nervous in new arenas, but honestly, not lately. Chico, Katie, they were both good. So I'll just tell myself Tay will be good, and quit worrying. Or try to quit worrying. haha. I had one TB that I rode in the coliseum that the other show is going to be in, and whenever someone would move a metal chair, she's bolt. It was NOT a fun ride. This was just schooling, but still. It was nerve-wracking. But I did ride Chico in that arena and he was an angel. What I really don't like, though, is not getting in the arena before my ride. It's mostly just for MY benefit to know the horse is fine and we can then concentrate on our ride. So I'm pretty certain we'll do the other show where I can school the night before. I do think Tay would do better at dressage than hunter, but it's okay. I'm just going as an experiment.

                                  Jazzy, we're not sure yet if we'll bring him or not. He hasn't really left this farm in 3 years, so we'll have to see if he'll trailer well, etc. And only if DH wants to ride him. DH is not a huge fan of shows, so we'll see. Not sure if two horses are going to be harder to deal with than one. I think one would be easiest at this point, and leaves someone to stay with Chico for the day. But Chico usually is fine alone for a day. He used to get attached to Katie, but no geldings. He likes them, but isn't attached like he was with Katie.

                                  Okay, had another nice ride last night. I even had DH get on him for the first time. He did well. I like to be able to see my horse move, so it was good for me to be on the ground after my ride watching the pair. He even popped over a few small jumps. I'm learning that with Tay Tay, you really need to have a stronger canter than I have been using to jump. The slower ones he just kind of jumps UP and then I get discombobulated. The more forward canter is smoother from watching DH. So that's my homework for this weekend. A few nice jumps!

                                  My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                                    Oh, and Paint is a breed. Basically a quarter horse with pinto markings. Though, you can have a solid paint as well. If the sire and dam are registered Paint, the foal will be registered as Paint. Now, to muddle up the waters, you can have a horse born of AQHA parents and have too much white, and you can usually register that foal as a Paint. Pinto is just the coloring. So, for instance, I had a registered Paint that was also registered Pinto. So she was double registered. You can have pinto Arabians (Pintabians they can be called) or pinto Saddlebreds, etc. But you can't have Paint Arabians or Paint Saddlebreds, etc. Hope that makes sense.
                                    My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                                      PF- I would love to come, I love Miller and I'd love to see you and Tay. I'll be working in Lebanon, which isn't that far. Let me know which classes, I can literally work around it Yeah, the chair thing at Livestock Arena got Pony that one time, too. Now it's earbuds all the time!

                                      On a side note, I'm glad to learn about the Paint/Pinto thing, and to know that what I remembered was at least somewhat right. I'd heard about the placement of white being a Pinto vs Paint thing. My old hunter was a solid Appy, papered and everything, save a spot on his upper lip. Half brother got all the loud leopard spots.

                                      Anyone know of any good Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales? Hoping to get a deal on my boots.


                                        lucky, I will keep you posted!! I've had two Paints. One was very spotted, and one was not. This is my Paint, Toby. Loved this boy. No "spots", just white legs. But he was registered Paint.
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                                          PF- man, you know how to find the pretty horses He looks like loads of fun.