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    Bitsa- I just love seeing you and Hope on IG, I'm so very glad he's every bit the unicorn Will you guys do the big sticks or derby stuff?

    PF- Jingles for your decision between the two horses. Are they from the same place as TBG? Was Jazzy from there, too?

    I took the plunge Sunday and broke in the boots. After 12 hours, I just had to get them off! Left one did great, Right one did okay. So to hedge my bets, I literally used 3 magazines worth of pages to stuff down in there to continue the stretch. Real test will be riding in them and then taking them off. If everything works right, I plan to wear them in the exhibition. Otherwise my CanPro chaps will do just fine. Some of my work peeps may come, turns out one of the girls likes horses and her Mom has a thing for Arabians.


      Such good news all round. Yay at the new horse Greys. Wahooooo Eq Jumper and Bitsa I also can't believe that you have had Hope for 2 years and what a problem to have for your daughter. Wahooooo!

      Finally Faye. I am so glad you are not getting yelled at and belittled anymore.

      Yay on the decicion of 2 horses PF.

      Meg do you know how wonderful it is to hear you say you were thrilled about the dressage. That gave me such a big smile.

      Now from your virtual riding instructor from the the other side of the world, who of course can be easy to ignore.

      You say you lost her and she came up and she wasn't forward.

      First I jut want to comment on what a lovely looking mare she is and you can send her here when you decide you don't want her anymore!!!

      Relax sit back and lift your hands. Your low hands have you leaning forward. This has your seat pointing back wards and that is actually pushing her back and slowing her down, to get her more forward you will find it better not pushing her back wards. So just think lift your hands and sit on your butt.

      Now it sounds like the opposite of what you have to do, but the reason she is lifting her head is because you are holding the inside rein. Proving the inside rein, of moving the inside rein forward, is a reward. You can also say good girl, so when she comes round and down and relaxes, immediately give that inside rein. You can say good girl as well. We don't hold the horses heads there in dressage. They do it themselves. It is called self carriage. It is a sin to give your outside rein, but don't continually hold that inside rein. Holding that inside rein as you have found has the horse lifting their head to try and get away from it.

      Give that inside rein and say good girl with the correct timing of the moment she gives and I want to hear back about how quickly it worked. Of course if it doesn't work it will be because the timing is incorrect, but get that time correct and you end up with a horse that will work their heart out for you.

      Also holding the inside rein is blocking her going forward. Go on a 20 metre circle and force yourself to put that rein forward a few times, (inside leg to outside rein is always being done of course) and I bet your will find her more forward by the time you finish your circle.

      To ask for a 10 metre circle from a 20m circle we do not ask with the inside rein for the 10 metre circle. Inside leg into outside rein has the horse in the outside rein. That is always being done. Then you close your outside leg, ask a little more with your outside rein and voila it is the outside aids that ask for the 10 m circle and can be done with NO inside rein at all.

      Okay I will leave you alone now. But you have come so far since the last dressage test you rode that I am excited for you if you can't tell.

      Dressage excites me and I can see it is starting to excite you as well.
      It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


        Welcome Welcome Welcome Erin from the other side of the world. The easiest way to breathe into your diaphragm is to sing while you are riding!!!

        Don't go dropping your stirrups if you already have a pulled groin. Pilates is what will mean no aches and pains during or after riding but you might want to wait until you have healed first.

        A bit of red flag for me on the other side of the world and not having seen you but a schoolie for your first lesson and shying 3 times through a lesson has me questioning......
        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


          Hi, everyone--I'm delighted to welcome the newbies and welcome back some friends we haven't seen for awhile! This will be just a quick check-in. Hurricane Dorian passed by last night after a week of anxiety. As you know, it devastated the Bahamas and is now pounding South Carolina. Here we were so fortunate--it didn't do much. We had some wind and a bit of rain yesterday, but nothing like what we were anticipating. In fact, the university where I teach cancelled classes all this week because our associated Savannah campus did experience some flooding. Here on the main campus, almost nothing happened. I am going out in the yard shortly to pick up sticks, but we didn't even have many branches down. Yesterday, I went down to the barn for my scheduled lesson, but I didn't have one because everyone there was in full hurricane prep mode. I did ride Sky, but after I put her away, I ended up helping. All the jumps had to be knocked down, and everything loose had to be tied down or put away. We braided ID tags into the horses' tails, filled tubs with water, etc. Thank heaven all the prep wasn't needed--not like Hurricane Matthew, which took part of the barn roof off and knocked down trees and power lines everywhere around here.

          I did go to a PSJ show last week in Charleston--sorry I didn't report. (If the show had been this weekend, it would've had to be cancelled because of flooding!) Anyway, I am happy to report that showing at 2'9" has become a mere nothing--remember how nervous I was the first time? Sky was such a good girl, but she is still very quick over the hunter courses--am thinking about bagging the hunters altogether and just concentrating on the eq. I am hoping to qualify for the adult medal finals in November. Currently I am in 8th place. I am not sure how many will qualify, but I think I have a good chance.
          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


            Glad all is well, Dewey. I was just thinking about you. Nothing wrong with concentrating on eq. How about derbies? Aren't they more accepting of the forward-moving hunter?
            My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


              Back to KY in the morning for the TIP show (spectating this year, riding next year!!) and I will be helping the adoption center with the horses they are showing. So I'm looking forward to a fun weekend. I will, of course, make a better decision on the horses I am looking at.

              Have a good weekend, all!
              My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                Dewey- I'm glad you're okay, I forgot how close you were to the storm path. Great job at 2'9"- I'd love pics if you have any. I'm in withdrawal as I won't be riding this weekend.

                PF- Traveling jingles and horse shopping jingles! Can't wait for more news.


                  Lucky, thanks. I will elaborate when I make a decision. Don't want to jinx myself. (but yes, same place as TBG. I did not get Jazz there.)
                  My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                    Hi ReRiders!
                    I have been lurking now and again but not had time or energy to write.
                    Greys--congrats on the new horse! He sounds lovely!
                    Suzie--sorry you are facing such grim weather. I hope you have had some rain!
                    Faye-- wonderful to see yoiu again!
                    Everyone else-- I will try to catch up later.

                    Me? Well, I am dealing with a back injury-- not from horse riding, but from desk sitting. Apparently I have back strain indicative of prolonged sitting, an anterior pelvic tilt-- one side of my hip is higher than the other, due to muscle compression and etc. Ouch. It really hurts. I am now under going some treatment-- went to a sports injury specialist who referred me on to a chiropractor. Normally I am a bit dubious of chiropractors but decided to try this--by pure luck, both people I have seen ride horses! I wonder if some of PH's one sidedness is due to me-- or if mine is due to him? Could be a bit of both. So I am told a minimum of 6 weeks healing-- but the more active I can be the better. What I have to limit is sitting at a desk!!! I can cycle and ride my horse-- though I don't feel great when I do-- I feel infinitely better than being at a desk. It's kind of the perfect injury!
                    A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli


                      Wow, Sun--that sounds painful. Have you considered one of those standing desks? Some folks swear by them.
                      I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                        Sorry, Lucky--I didn't take any pics this time. I showed through the middle of the day both days and didn't have much down time.
                        Last edited by Dewey; Sep. 7, 2019, 12:27 PM.
                        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne


                          Dewey - I know what you mean, usually I'm lucky if I get one picture of Cupid tied at the trailer

                          PF - Good luck to the center horses and hope you have lots of fun (and maybe even buy a horse!!)


                            Dewey- no worries.

                            PF- Is the TIP show for any second career thoroughbred- do they have requirements like the RRP does? I couldn't remember Jazzy's story.

                            Sun- heaps of jingles for you! That sounds rough. I'm glad your medical team has horse experience and I'm sure PH will love seeing you. It's interesting that cycling is allowed- that is one thing I don't love, unless it's stationary.


                              Dewey: It's so good to be back here! I hope some day i can say 2"9 is mere nothing!! Eq classes are awesome!!

                              Sun: JIngles for you, back pain sucks!! I have chronic tight neck/upper shoulder due to poor posture, so i totally understand.

                              suzie: How's the weather now?

                              Lesson with the assistant trainer and she has different style but very very good! She had me focus on keeping my heels down and i LOVED it!


                                Dewey: It's so good to be back here! I hope some day i can say 2"9 is mere nothing!! Eq classes are awesome!!

                                Sun: JIngles for you, back pain sucks!! I have chronic tight neck/upper shoulder due to poor posture, so i totally understand.

                                suzie: How's the weather now?

                                Lesson with the assistant trainer and she has different style but very very good! She had me focus on keeping my heels down and i LOVED it!


                                  Faye Argh at heels down. Every instructor says it, even me, but I can't do it. Both my mother and I have short Achilles tendons. For her, she could not do the exercises for snow skiing. For both of us we have to be happy with having our heels level when riding. I can not sqat down and put my heels on the ground. To do so I have to fall over.

                                  Faye and Greys. I did answer your question Greys but I lost it. No this weather is not usual for us. We are used to floods and here is a photo of 15.1hh Pepper in front of what is left of the shed.

                                  Now we have not one blade of grass. I took the cattle down for their last outing outside our fence line. I could not bring them up afterwards. We did get 17.5mm last Tuesday night to Wednesday midday. That is a huge amount from nothing for so long. It seemed to do nothing and walking down the hill it was worse than ever as the trickles had taken top soil and carved down to rock I have never seen before. But on the other side of the creek there was a tiny eeny weeny bit of sprinkling and they didn't want to leave so I didn't have the heart to make them.

                                  Another load will go tomorrow. The only reason they are not all going is that we need electronic tags in their ears and we don't have enough. So the rest will probably go next week.

                                  It is hearbreaking. Years of breeding what we wanted. Poof gone just like that. I really can't talk about it without crying.
                                  Last edited by SuzieQNutter; Sep. 10, 2019, 05:07 PM.
                                  It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.


                                    lucky, the TIP/New Vocations show (two shows in one weekend) are for any jockey registered TB, with no restrictions on training level, etc., as in the RRP Makeover. Some horses will be in both, but most of the TBs at the TIP show are well past the criteria for entering RRP.

                                    I saw some VERY nice TBs this weekend. I felt like I wasn't watching a TB show, but watching any regular show, so it was awesome. I watched a little of everything. I watched the crossrails division for a good while since I new some of the horses/riders. Then I watched some dressage. I watched some western. I watched trail. I watched a LOT of the jumpers and hunters since they were in a split ring (the big Rolex ring) So I sat on the line and was watching the two rings like a tennis match, left, jumpers, right hunters. If the jumper had a rail down, I focused my attention on the hunter in the ring. If the hunter chipped badly, my attention went back to the jumpers. It was really fun. I watched the Hunter Derby, which was at 2'6, 2'9" and 3'. Some REALLY, REALLY nice horses there. I think that might be fun to do some day. So, all-in-all a great weekend.

                                    I also rode the two horses I like. I'm still not sure what I want to do, though. One accomplishment, though, I took the 3-year-old and rode with the two horses that were showing from the center all the way to the show grounds and walked all around with him. He was really quite good for a horse that raced on June 27th of this year. He would stop on occasion and look. When we got there, and he was a little concerned, his MO is to plant his feet and not want to move. But with the trainer's (she was showing) help, we worked through it. Then on the way back we rode all around the stabling area and he was a good boy. I was proud of him. And on the way back to the center (all the way past the Alltech Arena (the blue building) if anyone is familiar) and he led the entire way home on a fairly long rain. So, a lot of good points and some things he definitely needs work on. But he's 3. I'm just now not sure if we'll come to an agreement on pricing, etc. So, no decisions yet. Will keep you posted. And the other horse, he is awesome, too, and a few years older so further along. But not sure on pricing yet. That's the tricky part.

                                    My hopeful road to the 2021 RRP TB Makeover:


                                      PF WOW on the 3 year old. Sounds like he has a super brain. I would kind of prefer a horse that needs to stop when they process something, rather than fleeing. I think that's a great sign. I'm keeping everything fingers crossed on either decision, but that is so super cool.

                                      It's so cool to hear that the TBs at the show don't stand out as being TBs necessarily. I think it's great they are being recognized as such and I bet when this recession does come, their popularity will only grow. They are gems.

                                      Sun oh my gosh! That sounds so brutally painful. But I kind of like that is a sneaky way to not be sitting at a desk. I had a stand up desk for a while and the problem I had was I would sag into one side or the other. If you get one, I would recommend a nice gel pad and a way to sit. Around here, people have gotten tall stools, so they sit rather than lean into one hip when they get tired. I also had good luck during pregnancy with a kneeling chair.

                                      Lucky Continued good luck with the boots. It sounds like quite an adventure to get them where they need to be, but I'm loving all your ingenuity!

                                      Dewey Awesome show report and my goodness, I'm so glad you haven't had too much damage at the barn or at work. It must have been so scary. It almost feels like it would be more anxiety provoking with a hurricane as slow moving as Dorian.

                                      BITSA I already said this, but come to Thermal!!!

                                      We had a mostly good show in Sonoma. Sandro was quite spooky day 1 with my trainer and I struggled my first class. He felt pretty backed off, but as the show went on, we got better. My trainer made me do a crazy tight inside turn in the speed class day 2, and it felt pretty great to actually execute it. Our best round was the last day. I had one down, which was my fault. That said, I think half the class had time faults and my only goal was to be inside the time, so I was thrilled about that.

                                      This was my round on Sunday.


                                      Hudson had a good first show too. My trainer rode him the whole time and she will show him all next week again. He has turned out to be a bit more quality than we expected. He's got more blood and is a bit more careful than we thought, so if he rubs a jump, he absolutely explodes over the next one. My trainer came out after day 1 and said, holy moly, we bought a grand prix horse! So I'm excited for his future and would like her to take more of the lead in the beginning so he develops properly. This was one of his rounds.


                                      I got to hack him Saturday and while he felt very lively, I could also walk the hectic show grounds on a loose rein and feel totally safe. He just looks at everything but doesn't spook. So much fun.


                                        PF- glad your weekend was so productive and that you got to get hands on with at least one of your possibilities.

                                        Greys- what good boys you have. I like watching Sandro and man, Hudson just oozes fun and potential. He looks calmly inquisitive- and you know I love his eye.

                                        So the boots will get one more bathtub treatment Sunday before my lesson, since most research said riding really is the best way to get the drop. The heel lifts came in- silicone from Amazon so they/re taller and sturdier than the ones from any horsey store. They feel fantastic in the boots, and for the first time, I was able to get the right one off without bad words or panic attacks! I used a grocery sack and it came right off. I have to use something for Sunday, and grocery sack won't rattle out the top like the trash bag. No need to invite Pony hijinks, even with earplugs.


                                          I need big time jingles for Pony. Early morning texts are never good- Fab let me know that Pony has gotten into something again- her right thigh is super swollen with a puncture wound plus a high fever. It's not draining or streaky- no idea how it happened. The pic she sent, Pony is weight bearing so there's that. We're all super worried.