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Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

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  • erin, what a great report! I'm happy you found a good place to start your re-riding career! Truly, though, it sounds like an excellent place to be for you. And it may be tough to keep the pokey horse going, at this point, it is more of a confidence boost to have to do that then have to deal with a horse that is too fast and too sensitive. You'll soon move up to be able to deal with other types of horses again. Good job! Excited for you.


    Rode this morning before working. It's still pretty darn hot, but just did my usual 30-minute walk intensive routine with Chico. And finished off with a good bath for the old pony. He's such a good boy. I actually enjoy working with him.

    Hope you're all having a good week.
    My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


    • Thanks, Paradox! I think you are right... this barn seems like an excellent fit and sounds like they have a good plan in place for me to move along through the ranks. I’m excited for me too... just need to find the cash to finance this!

      And jealous of your morning with Chico! Sounds like a lovely way to start the day.


      • Faye - sounds like that was a difficult decision but best for everyone involved! Sounds like you might have found a trainer who is a better fit - I sure hope so! Greys - How did I not know about that store before?! It looks awesome! erin - Yay for getting back on the horse! I remember how sore I was after my first lesson back. I promise, it gets better! Keep it up!

        I had an amazing lesson this morning on the mare I am leasing! We are doing a little local show at my barn on Saturday and I am pretty excited! Doing the 3 foot adult equitation and a medal class.


        • EqJumper Sounds like you have a really fun show in store! We love pictures over here, maybe take some from the show??? I love Tried Equestrian, they are basically a funnel for all the stuff I've been buying that doesn't quite work out. And they are SO nice! I really want them to be successful.

          Erin It sounds like you've found a terrific place to get back in action. To the extent you feel safe doing so, consider walking with your stirrups dropped. It will help stretch your leg down and make it more effective when you pick up your stirrups. If you think about it, as adults, we don't have a lot of time where are legs can dangle from the pelvis. It can also help loosen your hips. But you may need to work up to it. Either way, you're in a great situation!!!

          PF Good for you for getting out there and getting a strong walk in. I have really ramped up my working walk and I think it really helps the horses. Do things cool down typically in September or is it like CA where it can stay hot even then?

          We are gearing up for bootcamp next week at my trainers and then Split Rock in Sonoma. Sandro got seen by the vet and had his stifles done but she is really happy with the rest of his soundness and conditioning. He's been a dream to ride lately.

          The new horse's name is Hudson! He really is kind of a throwback of a horse despite having such nice blood under saddle. On the ground, he can be a bit of a handful, though not spooky. I was currying Hudson yesterday after a super super ride and he took umbrage and kicked out at me. So we still have some work to do there. The vet looked over him while she was there to get a baseline...she loved him as well. She asked if he maybe had a little cheekiness to him.... boy does he ever!

          But under saddle, even just playing with cavaletti, what a pleasure. We are struggling a bit with saddle fit. I'm changing brands of saddles and ordered a custom one for Sandro a few months ago, but Hudson has both a tall wither that is super wide. Even the bone is wide. So I managed to find a very wide tree saddle that's coming today in the same brand and hopefully it fits.
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          • Erin- glad you had such a great lesson and have found a good barn/trainer. That can be one of the hard parts of being a re-rider! So, funny you should mention your fear of getting stuck on the horse- True Confessions- I actually did get stuck, two weeks in a row, on SuperPony. I had added something new to my workouts (that balance board surfboard looking thing where you step on the sides and swivel your hips) and my groin was NOT happy. I literally couldn't drop my stirrups and swing over to get off. I had to use the stirrup and carefully dismount

            Greys- How tall is Hudson? Is he a Warmblood or Thoroughbred?


            • Greys: Handsome Hudson!! I"m sure in no time you will nip his naughty on the ground! Hudson sounds like a really fun ride, it helps that he's SUPER cute! That face!!

              Erin: I'm super excited to read your first ride back report! I think you found a great barn! It is so important as adult to receive positive and areas of improvement as feedback! The veterans knows here I had a trainer that was so negative, and really said some hurtful things, thank god i have pretty thick skin and didn't crush me, but i really had enough and time to move on. It's only your first ride back, agree with PF, it's better to deal with a kick ride now than a speedy demon that might hurt your confidence (and create blisters!!). Glad you had an awesome lesson!

              Eq: We love pictures/videos, so please do share! What's your lease mare's name?

              PF: Awww chico boy. The heat... we have a little bit of a heat wave here too, and poor Toby is not amused!

              Had my 2nd lesson Wed, on the same schoolie, he is a really good boy, very responsive to aids and so so honest! Perfect for me to get back to basic!

              We did circle of death (but only 3 jumps, and i am A-OK with that!). They are "cavalettis", but honestly, these cavelettis are like 1-1.5ft tall, my old barns are probs 1/2 ft tall only. She noticed right away that my elbows are stiff, and really need to work on relaxing that. Also my breathing. Thats why all my pictures looks like i am pouching (i am holding my breath!) We had a few iffy distance, and i apologized, and very refreshingly, she said no need to apologize and explain to me why it happened. I am in happy tears!

              The only thing with this place is they require twice a week lesson, which i do agree is a good thing to remain safe if jumping consistently.


              • Lucky Hudson is 17h and most definitely a warmblood. We also measured Sandro when the vet came and he is 18h . We have a scale at the barn and despite being 4 inches shorter and the same size blanket, Hudson is only 30lb lighter (1460 for Sandro, 1430 for Hudson). And he STILL needs to fill out a lot through his back and hind end. He's going to be a monster.

                Faye Welcome back to the circle of death. I think the difference in height makes a difference honestly because instead of it's being another canter stride, you do have to recover a bit on the backside. So for sure, even that 6" matters. But I think I agree with you, if you're gonna be jumping circles of death, twice a week is probably a good thing to shoot for. I am so glad you've found someone who will be good for your confidence and is coming from a place of wanting to teach you rather than making you feel small. It's going to do so much for your spirits.


                • Sounds like everyone is doing well! Lots of exciting developments all around. I've been so busy at work (and I am doing volunteer legal work for a political campaign on the side which has been keeping me busy), but I've been trying to keep up with this thread in my spare moments .

                  The potential half-leaser who tried my horse last weekend was a bust. It went super well, but she said she ultimately didn't have the time/money to half lease, despite being told beforehand how much time/money it would entail. She told me she's moving and wants to save that money for new furniture. I think people just enjoy having their lesson on something a bit fancier than their usual school horse. The other student at the barn who tried him a while back (but also passed due to time/money constraints) has apparently been asking to take her weekly lessons on him. Sigh. Anyway, I finally posted an ad on FB and someone contacted me wanting to try him. Not getting my hopes up, but we'll see how it goes!

                  Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend (and that it isn't too hot for riding ).


                  • Greys- man, you have some BIG boys. I would need a running start for 17 hands, let alone 18. Or a step ladder.

                    Mustang- Jingles for a good lease situation, on both sides.

                    Faye- Does your barn require 2xwk of everyone, or just those jumping? I do well to get out once a week and sometimes not even then.


                    • Greys: Did Sandro grew to 18H or he's been always on the tall side? And boy you will have two big boys for sure! I like it though! Remember Bobby ?

                      Mustang: That is super annoying.. I think folks overestimated the responsibility (financial) of leasing and when the reality hits they freak out. It is unfair to try others horses an using that as an excuse. Good luck with your next one though! Don't give up!

                      Lucky: Yes, the barn requires 2/week for everyone, while this is not the norm here, lesson prices in the bay area are extremely hefty, this place is more slightly reasonable. I didn't know you only once a week!

                      Another fantastic lesson!! I felt like i finally got my riding muscles back a little today! We did some practice jumps and grabbing the martingale to really practice my release, and that feeling of following is amazing!!!
                      We did a little course, nothing fancy but i had baggage. I was so worried that i would forget the course and get humiliated again. And I asked the trainer if i can just do 3 fences, she looked at me and was like. umm no. But she reassure me it will be okay. There are miles between fences and as long as i keep cantering and not get freaked out, i will have time to think. It worked!! I was in happy tears. Oh yeah, she tied my stirrups to finally get my legs the right muscle memory

                      Happy weekend y'all!


                      • Faye- I'm glad you had such a good lesson. This trainer sounds like a good fit for you- you deserve all the good things! Yeah, I've always done once/week lessons. Even growing up. Fab makes it nice, though, so I usually hang out and watch other lessons after mine, so barn time stretches quite a bit.

                        Next Sunday I'm bathtubbing the boots- hopefully I can get my right leg out easier this time. I plan on using grocery sacks around my legs for easier sliding.


                        • Lucky: awesome that you still get to spend quality time at the happy place! One thing I miss are the fabulous people at my old barn!

                          The lesson pony I’ve been riding will be going back to his owner I’m so sad because he’s a confident builder. We did a kinda complicated course including a super tight rollback (down hugging rail and then at quarter line to approach jump at an angle *yikes*) and he was so gamed for it!


                          • Lucky - Thanks for the well wishes! Hanging out at the barn after your lessons is so soothing, and even better when someone brings mimosas

                            Faye - Super annoying indeed! I just have to be patient, and even more clear up front that if the person isn't sure whether they have the time/money to commit to a half lease, they can't try him. Luckily the worst case scenario is that I put off buying another horse until my guy is ready to retire. Luckily I'm also taking jump lessons on a school horse so that helps scratch the itch in the meantime!

                            Sounds like you had a great lesson and that your trainer is good at (gently) pushing you to believe in yourself and test your boundaries. Do you know who you'll start riding after your current school horse goes back to its owner?


                            • Hanging out at the barn...I do miss that aspect of the whole barn social life. I love having my horses at home, but at times I could enjoy a bit of camaraderie. Glad all of you are having some good rides.

                              I'm contemplating looking at a horse this weekend. I'm kind of excited. But not getting my hopes up yet. I know I probably should wait till we sell the farm and buy the new one, but really, I want a project. I have a feeling it's going to take quite a while to sell the farm. It's a niche market. So, we'll see about the horse. I'm cautiously optimistic.
                              Last edited by ParadoxFarm; Aug. 26, 2019, 07:39 PM.
                              My hopeful road to the 2020 RRP TB Makeover:


                              • PF OHHH that's really exciting! Any early details on the horse you are looking at? Can't wait to hear more. Keeping fingers crossed your farm sells before you know it!

                                Mustang Good grief, that is SO frustrating about the potential lessors. And kind of bad form no? I'm hoping you find a good fit for your obviously lovely horse. Any word on the FB candidate?

                                Faye I'm really glad you found someone to gently encourage you further. Whenever we stretch and succeed, it DOES do more for our confidence that stopping the second we are unsure. Really proud of you. I'm pretty sure Sandro was fully grown when I bought him as a 7 year old. But he actually seems much bigger now bc he has more muscle. I remember hearing about Bobby

                                Lucky Keeping fingers crossed for the boots! How have your lessons been? LOL at needing a running start. Remember, I'm 6' tall, so I need a pretty big horse to look normal. People are always coming up to as at shows and saying we looked really normal out on course and then realizing how big both of us are when we are up close. Proportion!!!

                                We did another jump school with both horses, Hudson was perfect. His canter makes it so easy to find the jumps on but even if you aren't perfect, he doesn't seem to care. ok, we were still jumping low, and his lead changes are a work in progress, but I still feel like he is going to be special.


                                Sandro was a bit special himself, but we got around a decent sized course. I sent video to my trainer and she was happy with the horses, but a bit harsh about my riding. I'm sure I'll be without stirrups and reins probably when I go visit her next week. I'm trailering the horses to her tomorrow.

                                Yesterday was my last day riding Hudson at my barn. He will be with my trainer all the way through the end of WEF. So I decided we would ride the track in the community ring and of course, he was perfect. I videoed his canter, I thought you guys would appreciate the unbreakable rhythm of it. I'm glad we waited for him, he's so much fun.



                                • Greys- i have a total crush on your boy! Good luck with your lessons- I loathe pure no stirrup work- to quote my MIL, "it doesn't thrill me!" I know your boys fit you very well, however since I'm so used to top of the line Pony, everything over 15 hands seems huge to short me.
                                  Thanks for asking- lessons have been better, of course we're two weeks straight without, as Fab has to work and is road tripping with a buddy to KY. I feel stronger and fitter than I have in a while. I've been keeping up with my workouts and other than killer shin splints until the first trot set, Pony time is happy time.

                                  The canter video, man that rhythm is the stuff of day dreams. Often, as a calming behavior, I will drum my fingers in that canter rhythm- works every time. It's just like Hudson

                                  Overheard at work, aka the things I say in a day...
                                  Patient- "I'm just going to die if you don't hurry and change my pants (undergarment)." (which weren't even soiled)
                                  To which I replied "Good news, in all my years of caring for folks, no one has ever passed away from not getting an undergarment on quick enough, so you're gonna be just fine"


                                  • Mustang: Yes!! Because of my pass experience, i'm constantly worried i will get humiliated soon, but so far so good! And it's not like shes all 'good job, amazing", she has constructive criticism, without the belittling. I think there is another confidence builder schoolie that i can build my confidence on, we shall see~ I will be in Europe for a couple of weeks for work, and when i'm back, super pony might be gone. Best of luck with your lease situation!

                                    Greys: Hudson is such a gem! I'm sure you will miss him but he will be back even more super!

                                    PF: Yay for another prospect!! exciting indeed!

                                    Lucky; LOL!! Gotta love your sense of humor!


                                    • Having a lull in a busy few weeks so I’ll take a moment to catch up! Welcome to our newer members! Always here to support you as you go through those early rerider ups and downs.We've all had “the mind is willing but the body says no” moments. Or, the nervous excitement of “what was I thinking?”. (Sometimes just the nervous part.) Whether you canter poles for a year (like me) hoping to get back in the show ring or are right back in the AA division, we enjoy hearing about your adventures!

                                      Faye -so good to hear from you! You know, we’ve all at some point probably stayed with a less than stellar trainer or kept a horse that wasn’t quite right for us. Because, at the time, it was how we kept horses in our lives. You made a very difficult decision. I admire you for it. You’ve found the best way for you to keep riding. (Hindsight is always 20/20)

                                      Greys - love the name Hudson! Wow, you are going to have some fun with him. I’ll keep my eye out for him at WEF. (And you too, we need to get together this year!)

                                      PF - you know, when you’re not really looking is when the nicest horses come along.......

                                      Mustang - hope a lease works out. Seriously, I don’t understand people. When I’ve tried horses and they haven’t been a fit I always feel badly about it. I would never try one if I couldn’t make the time or money commitment! Frustrating, I’m sure.

                                      As for me - the 4 yr old’s blood work was good! Trainer on the other end was competing in the European Championships so we’ll work on getting her over here soon. Will still be a few weeks as Trainer #2 will be at Devon Fall and we don’t want to get her here at the same time. DD did Lucy (we call her LuLu now, fits better) in their first show two weeks ago. Had to make a bit adjustment from day 1 to 2 (thank goodness DD has a jumper - the 6 in a 7 line didn’t phase her). Maybe a tad too much bit as she broke from the canter in the hack. They showed again this past weekend and won the hack plus two thirds over fences! Penny was her perfect self with a clear the first day (just out of the ribbons) and second the second day. I missed seeing her this week as I was at (another) wedding but DD has not banished me for the future. She’ll also be showing at Devon Fall. Love it when Trainer #1 and #2 are at the same show! G and I have been getting in some nice rides in spite of the reroofing going on at the barn! We only had to cut short the ride in the indoor on a drizzly day. Neither one of us is fond of power tools echoing! Hoping for a lesson this week before heading to...... you guessed it, a wedding!


                                      • Thank you, Eq, Greys, Lucky, and Faye!

                                        Eq - I hope you are right! I pulled my groin yesterday jumping (I think! Because this pain sure feels like more than soreness. But how do I tell?)... so am in more pain than I would like. Hope it gets better. How was your show?!

                                        Lucky - your story gives me nightmares, because of said possibly pulled groin... hoping I don’t get stuck too!! Barn is headed to a show so tomorrow is my only chance for a ride this week so am risking it, but am not looking forward to it!

                                        Greys - thanks, that sounds like great advice to drop my stirrups. I think I would be fine - will ask my trainer! He does have a spook but I have ridden through it okay. And maybe dropping my stirrups would also help me get him to walk with impulsion! Hope you are having fun with the new pony!

                                        Faye - sorry to hear about your bad experience with that trainer! I may have had a thick skin as a junior but these days I need some balance between criticism and encouragement. Glad to hear you left that situation! Re: the breathing, have you tried breathing though your diaphragm? My gym trainer is working on that with me and I use it while riding. It helps me not just get oxygen, but RELAX! I take a deep inhale through the nose into my belly (not chest) and exhale twice as long though my mouth. It really helps me center myself and when lifting weights or riding it also helps me with my stamina. PS - yay for the awesome lesson!

                                        Thanks again, everyone, and hope you are having a great week!
                                        Last edited by erinmeri; Aug. 27, 2019, 01:45 AM.


                                        • Erin- I don't think you will get stuck up there, I more wanted to share how my incident happened and it was short lived. One thing I've been doing that has helped a ton is Five Minute Full Body Stretch, on YouTube, the BowFlex version. I started my intervals tonight and immediately felt off- turns out I forgot to do my stretching. I even do it before lessons. I have super tight hip flexors so it really makes a difference.

                                          Oh, and if you also have one of those Fit Boards, don't do what I did " gee, if beginner level is 1 minute, 20-30 minutes should do the trick." NOPE.