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  • #41
    Silvio in Middleburg Va. is beautiful, and an outrageous mover. He is over 17.1hh, and has done well with lots of smaller mares. His line (Sandro) is a very good bet for hunter type horses.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SteeleRdr View Post
      I don't have much experience with QH's or Appendix's, but we had an Indian Artifacts son come in for training at the barn a while ago. He had tremendous hind end problems, we never we able to figure out just what was wrong with him. He was not well conformed in his hind end, very waspy. Though he was a big guy at around 17H. He was also quite flighty. He had a great lope, but again, those hind end issues bothered me A LOT!

      I'm going to throw stallion out there that I just had a filly by because I think he's the best kept secret! Argosy, who stand at Little Bull Run Farm. He's super nice, was a doll in person, handsome, and I'm in love with the filly we just had by him!
      If he's a WB... I'm guessing he's by Argos (Argus?)... knew a mare throw by him who was quite talented (but lots of 'tude). She also took awhile to mature... and ended up being about 16.1. I believe Argus still stands in Long Island somewhere... and he's got a son that's doing the high prelims/small GP's... I think his name was Argusohn or something like that.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Tini Sea Soldier View Post
        If he's a WB... I'm guessing he's by Argos (Argus?)... knew a mare throw by him who was quite talented (but lots of 'tude). She also took awhile to mature... and ended up being about 16.1. I believe Argus still stands in Long Island somewhere... and he's got a son that's doing the high prelims/small GP's... I think his name was Argusohn or something like that.
        He is a WB (Hanoverian), but not by Argos (Argus). Here is his pedigree:

        http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/argosy6

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        • #44
          Rockpoint....
          I have a friend who bred two of her mares to him and ended up with SUPER smart and SUPER quiet fillies. VERY pretty movers as well!
          I also ground broke 2 of his babies last Summer and they are all so quiet and sweet. I think the best thing is that they are well balanced and my goodness, like I said, they MOVE!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mardi View Post
            You mean you don't look at the pedigree ?
            I can't speak for findeight.....

            I do look at pedigree (if it's available or known which isn't always possible), but by the time a horse is 5-8 YO & in the show ring or going strong u/s, it doesn't really matter what it says on the papers. At that point it's either got it or it doesn't & you can see/ride it yourself. Yes, it's helpful for perhaps future breedings or perhaps buying a young unbroke horse of similar bloodlines if that's what you are looking to do. But as we all have seen--just cause 1 cross can produce something great doesn't mean the next exact cross will be as well.

            OP--I assume you aren't breeding this year so you have plenty of time to research & visit possible stallions. Good luck in your search. I think if you can honestly evaluate your mare & then find a stallion you think will be a good match you will be ok.
            "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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              #46
              Originally posted by Giddy-up View Post
              I can't speak for findeight.....



              OP--I assume you aren't breeding this year so you have plenty of time to research & visit possible stallions. Good luck in your search. I think if you can honestly evaluate your mare & then find a stallion you think will be a good match you will be ok.
              Thanks Giddy-up. No, we won't breed her until next year, but wanted a chance to do our research and maybe even seen some of the stallions offspring show. I personally enjoy selecting mates. I grew up on a large TB breeding farm, so pedigrees and matching of pedigrees is very fascinating to me. I've personally bred my last two show horses and while it's a lot of work, it's also very satisfying!

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                #47
                Originally posted by findeight View Post
                I know there is a TB that has been pretty succesful in the IHF and having them continue on in the regular show ranks with Ammies.

                Is it Castle Magic? Or is that one of his get? Something like that...anybody? No idea of size on that one though.

                One thing you can do is go to the KHP this Sept for the IHF classes during the week. The weather is usually gorgeous and you can see what you are likely to get up close and personal jumping around.
                If I can keep my horse sound, I hope to show there!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Haalter View Post
                  Also if your friend likes a lot of chrome, that's an added bonus - I have one friend who bred his plain, unmarked brown TB mare to Alla' Czar 4 times, and every single baby had a big blaze and knee high stockings.
                  The mare has a good deal of chrome, so I can only imagine what the foal would be like!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by chawley View Post
                    The mare has a good deal of chrome, so I can only imagine what the foal would be like!
                    I know a few Alla' Czar babies that have a splash of white at the girth
                    Please don't sabotash my conchess.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Haalter View Post
                      I know a few Alla' Czar babies that have a splash of white at the girth
                      Mine has a belly spot (as well as the 4 whites & blaze) too. Well, it started as a spot & as he's err umm grown so has the "spot".

                      I have an Alla' Czar that I bought as a yearling & he's pretty ammy friendly I have to say. I backed him myself, he's lived in my parent's backyard & while I do have a trainer helping (he rides him as needed) we have done a lot of the things ourself. And lived to tell about it.
                      "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by JrHunterRider View Post

                        Popeye K is a very nice stallion. I do believe he has a great temperment and is currently being shown by his ammy owner in the 2'6" divisions. That sure shows alot about him and that he can do the 4' with a pro and 2'6" with an ammy.

                        All the Gold is also a very nice option. His offspring are usually quiet natured and very nice. Of course with every stallion, it all really depends on who you breed them to.
                        Just FYI but I am quite sure that Popeye's owner is not a typical 2'6 ammy rider since she has show in the GP's !!!

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                        • #52
                          I love my 2 yr old. out of my solid paint mare who is 15.2 and by Audited (TB)
                          She is 15.3+ is a beautiful mover and has a good mind. Audited is 17 hands and my mare had no problem at all during and after the foaling.
                          Audited stands in Gloucester, VA at Hunts End Farm.
                          Older and I hope Wiser!

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by Mardi View Post
                            You mean you don't look at the pedigree ?
                            I only care about the pedigree if I'm looking at a young horse that hasn't been backed or been in training very long. That's really the only time the pedigree matters to me at all. If a horse looks (conformation/soundness included here), moves, jumps and has the temperament I want, I couldn't care less who the parents are.
                            Keith: "Now...let's do something normal fathers and daughters do."
                            Veronica: "Buy me a pony?"

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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by grayfox View Post
                              I forgot about Sir Caletto. He is a good choice. I've had 3 and they were taller then their mothers. I agree with Sarabeth most of the Just the Bests I've seen are smaller. The one I bred was small.
                              I know own one of these Sir Caletto's, and I absolutely love him. He is very quiet and easy.
                              It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.

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                              • #55
                                A Just The Best two year old won her class at Devon today. She's a very nice size (big) too!
                                Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by moonpie View Post
                                  Just FYI but I am quite sure that Popeye's owner is not a typical 2'6 ammy rider since she has show in the GP's !!!
                                  She showed Popeye in the 3'6" AOs at Culpeper in April and the 3' AAs at Lex, VA so perhaps she was just getting used to him at lower heights mentioned above? She seemed competent (I had not seen her ride before) but was imperfect as Ammys are sometimes. I suspect he is a very sensitively tuned ride having been professionally ridden for so long and if he were mine I would be a basket case trying to ride him simply because I would be too fixated on not messing up, therefore messing up badly. I hope she is enjoying him, because he seems like one mighty fine horse to me.

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                                  • #57
                                    indian artifacts

                                    I have an Indian Artifacts mare. She is close to 17 hands and 1250 lbs as a 4 year old and has a nice size rump on her as well as good hocks.

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                                    • #58
                                      i have 2 great options for you

                                      Cabardino http://www.charlotfarm.com/pour%20gagne.htm
                                      He has the best jump i have ever seen. BEtter than Popeye K in my opinion. He is the one horse thati was physically speachless watching at WEF. An absolute joy to watch. A bigger guy so would easily put size on your foal but not bulk, just a nice big warmblood. HE is Built great and moves well also. his foals tend to be calm and well mannered. He is my first choice for MANY mares i know.

                                      Chaleon http://www.crookedwillowfarms.com/ho...&type=stallion

                                      he is another one i love but don't know too much about.


                                      Popeye K is obviously an amazing horse but from what i have heard and seen his babies are often hard to break and often very spooky, as he was when he was young


                                      I hope i helped!

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                                      • #59
                                        Here is my opinion

                                        So if you want to bred for the Hunters here is a short list of well established Show Hunter Sires:
                                        Castle Cove , Fun and Fancy Free, Arron's Gold = ALL TB's.
                                        PopEye K , Escapade , Don Alfredo , and Silvio ( in Virginia) = ALL WB's

                                        you can't go wrong here. You just have to decide what " type" of hunter you wish to produce and look very hard at your mare to see her pro's & con's. It is a 50% mare and 50% stallion .
                                        To get more insight go over to Sporthorse Breeding .. Those folks really know their stuff and can really help you out.. Best of luck.
                                        "YOU create your own stage. The audience is waiting."

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                                        • #60
                                          Just The Best

                                          I have a Just The Best gelding who is 16.1 1/2 hands. He was out of a 15.2 1/2 hand thrbrd mare (her first foal). He is 6 yrs old and the easiest horse I have ever trained to jump and horse show (I have done at least 100 greenies). His brain amazes me!

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