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  • Devonshire Farm/Kaitlyn Biear--Bend, OR?

    I saw a few ads for seemingly nice hunters on Dreamhorse posted by this farm, and the trainer Kaitlyn Biear. I wondered if anyone knows/has experience with this farm or trainer. I looked up USEF and local show records but didn't see any...not that that is a huge factor.

    Seems she/they are new to Bend, Oregon and come from California. Have an acquaintance who found one ad interesting and am just doing a bit of background checking.
    Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!
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    #2
    Can I make assumptions from the resounding silence on this topic that she/the farm is not well known? Perhaps not all she/they are self-reporting on the website? Or not?

    Anyone??
    Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!

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    • #3
      I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....

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      • #4
        Looks like she's from down here (San Francisco Bay Area) and had students on the circuit in our area, but I don't recognize her name or barn. Must have moved to Oregon in the last year or so. Sorry I can't be of more help! Maybe someone else will recognize the name.

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        • #5
          Please beware of this "trainer." Kaitlyn Biear is smooth talking, shrewd and able to think on her feet and be very convincing. If it sounds too good to be true it is! Don't fall victim and be taken! All she wants is your money and will say and do anything to get it. There are plenty of reputable, ethical and trustworthy trainers and people selling horses out there but she is not one of them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CuteArabHunter View Post
            I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....
            You might be surprised.

            I wonder if she has permission to use all the professional photos on her site. Sheri Scott, JumpShot, Blue Sky, just a few photog's marks I saw with no credit given in the caption.

            I'm no help, Calvin, can't say I've ever heard of her. But I'd guess that if someone is using a free site with a .webs.com address and standing a QH/Paint 4 year old 15.1h stud as a "sporthorse sire", claiming that he has "smooth gates, wonderful scope over fences, and an excellent Hunter format" that maybe they aren't quite up to 'big time A circuit trainer' status, just yet.

            (ps. what's 'hunter format'?)

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            • #7
              Kaitlyn Biear of Bend Oregon

              I had a very bad horse transaction issue with her just last month, please beware. I agree with the previous poster, what a smooth talker. Since then I have found and recieved lots of information on what type of person she is. You do not want to get in any sort of relation with her, horse lease, sales, purchase, lessons or boarding. We had to call the police about our horse issue. I should have know when I googled her and found her mugshot, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and thought people make mistakes. I was wrong, she is just bad!!! Save yourself a lot of stress and find a reputable trainer. I also found some horses on Dreamhorse under Windy Hill Farms that are her's.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CuteArabHunter View Post
                I think the problem may be that there is just not that many COTHers in Oregon. It is not a huge horse state....
                Now wait one cotton pickin' minute! We are too a huge horse state!

                I live near Bend and would be happy to ask around if you like, but it looks as though you may have gotten your answer
                Kanoe Godby
                www.dyrkgodby.com
                See, I was raised by wolves and am really behind the 8-ball on diplomatic issue resolution.

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                • #9
                  Bad Person to do business with stay away!

                  Oh where do begin with this young girl of age 22.
                  She took me in as she acted so sweet and nice. She talked about her custody battle, and her ex loosing her 6 month old baby to the father. Why did that happen? HHHMM
                  She has been arrested and you will see her mug shot under BendMugshots.com
                  She lies about the age of her horses that she has listed for sale, Example she has a 20 year old + mare named Bo listed in the portland and Bend oregon area asking $7,500 and the add says that the mare is only 15. LIE! The mare is 20 years old +. She also had a mare named Liera knowing that the mare had a HITCH in her back, walked with a limp with the hind leg.
                  She also has a stud named Spider a quarter horse paint around 14. + hands that she just started to train for jumping.

                  [She] bailed on board and LIED about needing to take her stud to the vet to have him gelded. She took him to a different ranch called FLY SPUR Ranch in Tumalo Oregon.
                  She broke her 30 day notice along with the boarding contract with all three horses never putting any notice of leave in writing.
                  She then threatened to steel hay from the barn, because she thought that she was being over charged for board.
                  She will facebook you be your friend to act like she is real nice and take you for granted. WATCH OUT!

                  We are now taking her to court to re claim the board money that she still owes! Which we will Win!
                  Anyone that crosses her path with fall victim to her lies and evil ways.
                  She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
                  She needs to go back to California where she belongs!
                  If you have her in your barn now you will have a barn full of Drama, and she will run off your good paying boarders.

                  Kaitlyn Biear HeadCase Liar and Theif!
                  Last edited by Moderator 1; Dec. 31, 2012, 10:51 AM. Reason: language

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scarlet26 View Post
                    She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
                    She needs to go back to California where she belongs!
                    Please, we don't want her back!!!

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                    • #11
                      What is her website? I'm interested now

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                      • #12
                        It's not hard to figure out who ARABbreeder1986 is.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shireluver View Post
                          It's not hard to figure out who ARABbreeder1986 is.
                          Now that they deleted their post mine doesn't make any sense.

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                            #14
                            I've received a PM asking me to delete this post as it is "damaging" to the trainer in question. I am sorry that a public discussion of her abilities and program has been deemed "damaging"--but if you play in the court of public opinion, you need to be playing fair and square I guess. No, I won't delete it.
                            Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!

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                            • #15
                              Kaitlyn Biear has returned to California and has started a sale barn in Castro Valley under the name Derby Stride Farm. Will also come up as Derbystride Farm.

                              She is using the name Catrina Biear or Kate Biear

                              I have recently experienced exactly what others on this board experienced and alluded to. Deal with great caution and be sure the horse you are going to buy is really the horse you are getting. Vet check, vet check, vet check. Which is always good advise no matter who you buy from.

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                              • #16
                                I'll just save these for posterity, since they're clearly from the same person.


                                Originally posted by jazmine View Post
                                Please beware of this "trainer." Kaitlyn Biear is smooth talking, shrewd and able to think on her feet and be very convincing. If it sounds too good to be true it is! Don't fall victim and be taken! All she wants is your money and will say and do anything to get it. There are plenty of reputable, ethical and trustworthy trainers and people selling horses out there but she is not one of them.
                                I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                                • #17
                                  And number 2:

                                  Originally posted by Sfbayequine View Post
                                  Kaitlyn Biear has returned to California and has started a sale barn in Castro Valley under the name Derby Stride Farm. Will also come up as Derbystride Farm.

                                  She is using the name Catrina Biear or Kate Biear

                                  I have recently experienced exactly what others on this board experienced and alluded to. Deal with great caution and be sure the horse you are going to buy is really the horse you are getting. Vet check, vet check, vet check. Which is always good advise no matter who you buy from.
                                  I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                                  • #18
                                    And #3:


                                    Originally posted by scarlet26 View Post
                                    Oh where do begin with this young girl of age 22.
                                    She took me in as she acted so sweet and nice. She talked about her custody battle, and her ex loosing her 6 month old baby to the father. Why did that happen? HHHMM
                                    She has been arrested and you will see her mug shot under BendMugshots.com
                                    She lies about the age of her horses that she has listed for sale, Example she has a 20 year old + mare named Bo listed in the portland and Bend oregon area asking $7,500 and the add says that the mare is only 15. LIE! The mare is 20 years old +. She also had a mare named Liera knowing that the mare had a HITCH in her back, walked with a limp with the hind leg.
                                    She also has a stud named Spider a quarter horse paint around 14. + hands that she just started to train for jumping.

                                    [She] bailed on board and LIED about needing to take her stud to the vet to have him gelded. She took him to a different ranch called FLY SPUR Ranch in Tumalo Oregon.
                                    She broke her 30 day notice along with the boarding contract with all three horses never putting any notice of leave in writing.
                                    She then threatened to steel hay from the barn, because she thought that she was being over charged for board.
                                    She will facebook you be your friend to act like she is real nice and take you for granted. WATCH OUT!

                                    We are now taking her to court to re claim the board money that she still owes! Which we will Win!
                                    Anyone that crosses her path with fall victim to her lies and evil ways.
                                    She has bounced around from barn to barn to barn all over Central Oregon.
                                    She needs to go back to California where she belongs!
                                    If you have her in your barn now you will have a barn full of Drama, and she will run off your good paying boarders.

                                    Kaitlyn Biear HeadCase Liar and Theif!
                                    I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                                    • #19
                                      Very well, carry on.
                                      I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                                      • #20
                                        She is truly a liar and a fraud, and will totally misrepresent horses (for instance a 15.3 chestnut TB mare with a temperamental streak that gets strong over fences that she advertised as a 16.1 warmblood cross with a dead quiet, beginner safe attitude - the perfect short stirrup horse. NOT. And the horse has a track tattoo!). My trainer and a client in our barn got totally ripped off by her, and we later discovered several other barns where she'd yanked the horses out without notice, leaving large unpaid board bills, etc. She did this to my trainer then bad mouthed him and made up lies when he put a lien on a horse she owed THOUSANDS of dollars in expenses for. Do NOT do business with her or trust anything she says.

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