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    Recently watching a video of my horse over jumps and when he goes over his tail flings up in the air. I started to wonder if this was normal... so watching different videos on youtube, I noticed most horses do not do this but there were some that did... here is a "jumper" that does what my horse does -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLH9...feature=relmfu

    Since the tail is an extension of their spine, what do you think about it?

    Thanks!

    And this horse, quite nice - but he does NOT do the tail flick thing..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvs7...eature=related
    Last edited by doublesstable; Jun. 1, 2011, 02:32 AM.
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    #2
    Well I just watched one of my favorite horses "Rumba" and he does the tail flick thing so I guess it's okay... lol...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaKaLwvIOCg
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    • #3
      I saw a really nice hunter in State College last year that flipped its tail so hard it would land on his back for a stride or two after the jump. Very odd, but IMO didn't take away from the pairs 'look'
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      • #4
        I could be wrong, but I think that most of the time it's just a quirk and is not penalized like agitated tail swishing.

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        • #5
          My old horse used to do it over every jump, and I always was told it's because he likes to jump Was certainly never penalized for it - that I know of at least! he grew out of it over the 5 yrs I owned him and only did it once in awhile by the time he was 10.

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          • #6
            A lot of jumpers do... have seen it before in hunters but not as much.
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            • #7
              Strapless had some serious tail flick and it kind of worked for her. I think if you have tail flicking on top of some sulky swishing between fences then it might not help you, but in Strapless' case she was clearly enjoying her job and had an almost overpowering hind end so it worked for her.
              Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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              • #8
                Judgement ISF is another one that the "tail flick" worked for.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZBu0zypd8
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                • #9
                  You mean like this.....

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hor...he_Flying_Tail

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                  • #10
                    My 6 y.o. mare flicks her tail when jumping. She really uses herself, so I just thought it was a follow through. After watching the video of Judgement, I wonderful if it is something that Consul offspring inherit. My mare is by Consul. :-)

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                    • #11
                      You will see it more commonly over the bigger jumps. It reflects the effort the horse is exerting, in most cases.

                      This young horse came to my last clinic. He just started over fences and he overjumped mightily. He flicked his tail.



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                      • #12
                        There was a horse on the USET some time ago with a tail flick over every jump. If I remember correctly, Disney made a movie named, "The Horse with the Flying Tail." Could the horse be Nautilus? I am not sure of the name.
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                        • #13
                          I had a horse that had a very expressive tail anyway, and he did this.

                          Another horse of mine did this when the jumps were bigger (3'6+) but not so much at 2' or even really ay 3'.

                          Current horse doesn't flick hard, but does enough to get the tail out of the way.

                          I've known some people that wished their horse would do this more because the horse would drag it's tail over jumps, very occasionally causing faults.
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                            Originally posted by STA View Post
                            There was a horse on the USET some time ago with a tail flick over every jump. If I remember correctly, Disney made a movie named, "The Horse with the Flying Tail." Could the horse be Nautilus? I am not sure of the name.
                            I love it "the horse with the flying tail"......

                            If I can get photo bucket to work I will post a video of my horse doing this. The jumps are only like 2' - 2'6" and he still flicks his tail... I never noticed until I finally got a video of us at a show..... My horse is kind of quirky anyway and so is his owner.. lol...

                            Thanks for all your thoughts on this.... I have had horses for a long time and this is something I never noticed some horses do.... didn't know if there was a reason or if it was a negative in the Hunter ring...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by doublesstable View Post
                              Recently watching a video of my horse over jumps and when he goes over his tail flings up in the air. I started to wonder if this was normal... so watching different videos on youtube, I noticed most horses do not do this but there were some that did... here is a "jumper" that does what my horse does -

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLH9...feature=relmfu

                              Since the tail is an extension of their spine, what do you think about it?

                              Thanks!

                              And this horse, quite nice - but he does NOT do the tail flick thing..
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvs7...eature=related
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by faraway46 View Post
                                Your horse does what Cristallo does? MAZEL TOV!!
                                Yeah I "wish" - just on the fliping tail part...
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                                • #17
                                  I call that "firing." Usually means they are careful with the hind end. Definitely a good thing!
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                                  • #18
                                    If you watch their hind ends the horses that flick their tail tend to kick out more and really pick up in the back. The example of a horse not doing this is coming very close to the jumps with it's hind end and not flipping it's legs up to keep out of the way. A horse that flick's its tail is probably less likely to bring down rails with its hind end.
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                                      #19
                                      I don't know if this works but here is a video of my tail flippy horse over some small jumps in a Eq class....

                                      http://www.facebook.com/video/video....03611153017309

                                      I did "speed bump" jumpers a few weeks ago but he doesn't know what go fast means. I know I am holding him back on height... I have jumped him over 3 ft at home but still don't feel ready at a show "yet"....
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                                      • #20
                                        I've held the theory that the tail does that on a horse that finishes well with his back end. Just a theory, and one I've come to the conclusion of solely on my own, so who knows?

                                        My trainer's main GP horse does this whenever he jumps, my friend's horse (who has quite the lofty jump) does it over all jumps, and mine does it when he hits about 1.10m and has to actually do something with himself.

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