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How do you keep your show horse white/grey?

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  • How do you keep your show horse white/grey?

    Ok so I have a big TBxPercheron mare. Black and white paint when we bought her as a yearling. She has slowly been dappling out to what I'm assuming will eventually (unfortunately) be almost all white.
    Side One: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../IMG_15492.jpg
    Side Two: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...1/IMG_1544.jpg
    *please ignore the eq - we are working on it

    Those pictures were taken about a month ago, the week before a show we were suppose to go to that was rained out. I had just finished body clipping her to get those inevitable winter stains that appear out (no heated wash stall here ). Well then don't ya know it rains for two weeks straight and she is in, which even with daily stall cleaning and grooming she ends up with nasty stains. In all honesty she is just a PIG and LOVES to lay down and play in the creek outside and be DIRTY. I've given her three-four baths since the rain finally let up and I do believe her skin is stained (hock/gaskin area)!!! I litteraly cried the other day when my Quick Silver wasn't working.

    I've been using Quic Silver with great luck for a few years now. I'm taking her to a show in two weeks and really want to get those stains out! I would love to know how everyone keeps there white/grey horses top-of-the-line-show-ready. Any tips/advice for this particular situation? Any products that are a must-try?

  • #2
    Try rubbing alcohol on a towel.
    Have lots of towels handy so you can switch when it gets dirty.
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    • #3
      Wow, such a cute horse! I used a combo of Orvus and Quicksilver, when I groomed Artos. He had a naturally beautiful shine and when he was clean he looked like a pearl!

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      • #4
        Oxyclean works really well. Make a paste and let it sit for about 10 min.
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        • #5
          I have a pinto pony with heaps of white who at times resembles a cross bred Hippo X Yak. He lives out 24X7 and loves his mud to the point of laying down and wiggling to get mud up under his rugs.

          Not exactly conventional and i know some people don't like
          Using non-horse-specific things on their horses but this is what works for me;

          Wash with warm water and wool wash (yep the kind you wash your woolen jumpers in) cheapest plainest one from the supermarket. Rinse.

          Do another wash with cowboy magic 'shine in yellow out'. Rinse
          Done.

          Here's the little grot looking quite clean
          http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41...t/f236f737.jpg

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          • #6
            what is better than any chemical is using a paste of corn starch and water. Leave it set until it dries and then wash it off. If this doesn't work, wash her in baking soda. it also works great.

            Both are better than any chemical I have found when I had my pinto.

            Good luck!
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              #7
              Originally posted by jevousaime View Post
              what is better than any chemical is using a paste of corn starch and water. Leave it set until it dries and then wash it off. If this doesn't work, wash her in baking soda. it also works great.
              I think I will try these first. We bought her from an Amish guy, and when we got her she was well - disgusting. It looked like he hadn't even groomed her in her year and a half of life So getting those origional stains out ended up just waiting for them to grow out. But I had tried a few chemicals and her skin started getting all scaley/dried out. So I was hoping to stay away from them. Obviously once I get them out my Quic Silver and Suave Coconut Shampoo routine will be just fine again I will raid the cabinets today, give it a try and update later.

              Keep the tips coming!

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              • #8
                She is cute!

                I have a recommendation for the tail. My jumper was grey. I combed her tail daily (very carefully) and washed the bottom half with quick silver everyday until it started to go blue. Then twice a week after. (Use TONS of conditioner). The week of the show, I'd use a white rinse for greying hair. But only on the bottom (not the dock). Her tail was spectacularly WHITE.
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                • #9
                  My cousin was a four-inhand-driver and had six lipizzans. I had to have all six ready to go at each combined driving event. Some of the shampoos mentioned work well, but I find continuously picking up the stall the best way to keep a grey horse clean.
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                  • #10
                    I mix Vetrolin shampoo and Quicksilver together. It works great!

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                    • #11
                      maybe try this?

                      Exhibitor Labs (company that makes the "Quic" line) also makes Exhibitor's Prize, which is used on show livestock (cattle, sheep and swine). I've found it to be a bit stronger than Quicsilver and still gentle enough for more sensitive-skinned animals. You can pick it up at pretty much any well-stocked feed store. The trick is to apply it directly to the animal (no diluting in a bucket) rub it in so it's all sudsy, then let it sit for about 4-5 minutes. Rinse. Repeat. Once your horse is white, use a good amount of Laser Sheen and buff with a towell until dry. THEN move your horse from the washracks. (Laser Sheen is silicon based, so the dust doesn't stick.)

                      But lucky you- that is the most beautiful coat pattern I've ever seen!

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                      • #12
                        The joys of a white horse...

                        Orvus.

                        If that doesn't work, sponge thoroughly with a 50/50 mix of white vinegar and hot water, Keep spongeing until the entire area smells liek a pickle factory. The sponge some more. You want the vinegar to sit on the coat (in particular the stains) for a good 5 minutes. Follow THAT with your favorite whitening shampoo. I like the Cowboy Magic one, but it's a bit harsh - use conditioner on the tail!

                        Thereafter, use a whitening shampoo weekly, or even more often if you condition well too. For the daily washing of the tail, I use an off-brand human grey-hair formula. It's milder than the Cowboy Magic whitening shampoo, and does a good job of maintaining the non-stained tail

                        My mare doesn't get stained on the body, but she pees on her tail AND we live on red clay. And when she's stalled, it takes a DEEP stall (like 6-8 bags of shavings at a weekend show) to keep her clean, because she's simply a pig.
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                        • #13
                          Love my Orvus and Mrs Stewarts blueing.
                          *Ride and let ride...*

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                          • #14
                            The joys!

                            I like liquid Tide but I liked getting a dark bay horse even better!!

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                            • #15
                              Goop. It's a non-toxic hand cleaner. Works better than anything else I've ever tried and I have had grays since I was 10 (I'm 40 now).
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                                #16
                                hasahorse - where do I find Goop? ETA: After googling it I realized that where I work has Orange Goop for getting the sheet metal oil off the guys hands. I believe I will just snag a bit and give it a try!

                                This afternoon I bathed her with Quic Silver and spotted the stains with a cornstartch/bakingsoda paste. Let it sit, and rinsed. Then lathered more Quic Silver on the spots and let that sit for awhile. Rinsed and nothing. After she dried the spots might have been a bit fainter - but still noticeable. I then tried rubbing some spots with alcohol which did not appear to work either. There wasn't even any dirt on the white sock I was using!!

                                I spray her down with Hair Moisturizer almost daily. Soak her tail in it and keep it in a homemade tail bag. In the past this has helped keep the stains away. That two weeks in her stall really did a number....Perhaps I will take another trip to the tack store tomorrow....
                                Last edited by HGem; May. 30, 2011, 10:39 PM. Reason: i know what Goop is!

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                                • #17
                                  Back when I showed APHA, the secret to whites being WHITE was

                                  1. Clipping the hair
                                  2. Ms. Stewart's bluing
                                  3. Show chalk
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                                  • #18
                                    So... I have a greyed-out paint horse too! She is completely white now, but was darkdark bay and white when she was a baby. AND she is about the messiest horse I have ever owned. I guess she uses poop as a pillow?? I mean, she is covered in manure stains every day.
                                    Getting back to you-- I use quicsilver in the wash stall, for her tail I'll do it twice weekly, and conditioning after, too. We clip her, too. It helps a little bit, but by far the best way to keep her clean is to pick out her stall very, very often. I have also found that even when there is no dirt left, her hair seems to be stained..?
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                                    • #19
                                      For getting the stains out I use lemon juice on my 4 white socking, white blaze, leopard Appaloosa. When I was a kid showing her, my mother lost a lot of lemon juice. :-)

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                                      • #20
                                        I have clydesdales. So lots of white feather and legs to keep sparkling clean. I use Prell shampoo/conditioner first- letting it sit and working it in really well, then rinse and follow with a cattle whitening shampoo.

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