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  • #21
    Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
    He also got chatty with me and told me his wife wanted him to sell off his broodmare band and that "I had a great eye because those are his two best horses." I was also informed that he had a stallion by Ironman... Wonder what condition those guys are in.
    A stallion by Ironman...as in the Oldenburg stallion in WI?
    Friend of bar.ka

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    • #22
      Glad I read this - I have the Mallard Springs ads saved on my Equine.com account. The ads are catchy enough to make me check out the website, but I was not too impressed once I browsed around. Just didn't seem legit. Fancy young horses with impressive breeding but cheap prices. Makes you think you happened to have come across a hole-in-the-wall secret jackpot. Seems too good to be true, and low and behold...it is!

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      • #23
        No, Quattlebaum really is an old southern name. Lots of them here in Savannah. But here they are good people altho not horse people.

        Thomson is the guy on the hannomerci thread. Rumor there was that he had moved to mallard springs, which is why I posted for people to read that thread. And hannomerci got her $ back!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
          Carolina- I wasn't able to get a vetting because he wouldn't hold for one- even with a non-refundable deposit. If I had it scheduled for two days later and he sold the horse the following day, than I would have paid a cancelation fee for the PPE and for all of my travel expenses. In any event, the shipper said William told him he lived an hour away. William told me he worked an hour away... The vet who pulled the coggins and health cert is Dr. Steven Matthews. I guess it's his vet? Not sure but I am calling that man tomorrow as well to see if A) those documents are legit and B) who this William/Thomson is after all.

          I'm so disgusted over all of this. It seems as though it has passed through so many hands and not one person has been able to make enough of a difference to stop him. He also got chatty with me and told me his wife wanted him to sell off his broodmare band and that "I had a great eye because those are his two best horses." I was also informed that he had a stallion by Ironman... Wonder what condition those guys are in.
          Contact hannomerci on coth. Get the same SC lawyer she did and sue. You don't need to return the horses to that awful place. You can sue for breach of contract and collect the difference between the value of the horses you were shown and the value of the horses you received. Ask for punitive damages and court costs and attorney's fees. Meaning you can sue f or a lot more than this fraud cost you. sometimes monetary punishment thru puntivie damages judgments are the only way to stop these people.
          At least it might get them out of SC. (I am 1/2 southcarolinian and we don't like cheaters and people who use religion to steal and cheat.) Send them on over to GA and we'll take care of them here.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by cloudyandcallie View Post
            Contact hannomerci on coth. Get the same SC lawyer she did and sue. You don't need to return the horses to that awful place. You can sue for breach of contract and collect the difference between the value of the horses you were shown and the value of the horses you received. Ask for punitive damages and court costs and attorney's fees. Meaning you can sue f or a lot more than this fraud cost you. sometimes monetary punishment thru puntivie damages judgments are the only way to stop these people.
            At least it might get them out of SC. (I am 1/2 southcarolinian and we don't like cheaters and people who use religion to steal and cheat.) Send them on over to GA and we'll take care of them here.
            This guy is nuts. I FINALLY got a hold of him and he talked his swagger and then promptly hung up the phone. He is so out of whack.

            Anyone care for an update!? Chestnut has previously foundered terribly. Put front shoes on the poor guy and now he's somewhat sound. Looks like he's on a dry lot schedule here on out. Grey? HUGE swollen lymph node on the right. Both have glassed over look. Can't find the vet who provided the health certificates either- his number is disconnected... Hmmmmm

            Good news? We are set up as a quarantine facility and the Greenwood Sheriff's Department is fantastic to work with.

            And, yes, Ironman from WI. Riiigghht.

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            • #26
              Holycrap. TheHarrier, where was the vet supposedly based out of?

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              • #27
                Wow, what a load of crap. That guy is wading deep in the bs. He doesn't deserve to own horses...
                Friend of bar.ka

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                • #28
                  This is getting

                  Originally posted by Carolinadreamin' View Post
                  Holycrap. TheHarrier, where was the vet supposedly based out of?
                  Let me preface this by saying that we have been on the phone all morning with the Sheriff of the county and further deduction has led us to the conclusion that the vet that "supposedly" signed the health certificate does not exist. We have also contacted the state vet that knows no one by the name represented on the certificate. I will say this for the record (because I know it will probably come up) but we are not posting on here to threaten or slander anyone. What has occured is wrong - not only the misrepresentation of the animals for sale - but the overall state and condition of these horses can be classified as abuse. I want to stop this man from abusing any more animals as well as lying to and swindling any future customers that may fall into his brutal scheme of selling horses.

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                  • #29
                    Ok if the health certificate is falsified, you need to get hannomerci's lawyer, or one similar to him, right away and get everyone on this case.
                    That's civil and crimnal fraud, to falsify the health certificate.
                    Sue his *** off, which is a legal term we use in the south to mean get money and get revenge.

                    And stop him from preying on other unknowing people. He may say he's praying, but he's really preying.

                    ETA Coth needs a "beware this seller" forum where prospective buys could check out sellers. Or rename it so that we could promote good sellers also, like the one who sold me Cloudy. Great seller!

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                    • #30
                      For those of you following - check out the updated pictures of the two sweethearts. You can clearly see the swollen lymphnode on the grey, along with the welts and sores on his neck. Also, you can see the foot of the chestnut that has severly foundered.

                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/61855169@N05/


                      cloudyandcallie - ON IT! The only person we could find by the name of this supposed vet is someone based out of Myrtle Beach (who is not practicing anymore). At this point, even though we spent money on two half dead horses (one completely foundered), the bottom line is to stop this from happening again.

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
                        He also got chatty with me and told me... that "I had a great eye because those are his two best horses."
                        What do you suppose the two worst ones look like?

                        TheHarrier, best of luck with the horses and the rest of it.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
                          What has occured is wrong - not only the misrepresentation of the animals for sale - but the overall state and condition of these horses can be classified as abuse. I want to stop this man from abusing any more animals as well as lying to and swindling any future customers that may fall into his brutal scheme of selling horses.
                          I sure am glad you stumbled upon him, Harrier. And I'm glad those two sad souls ended up with you.

                          You get him, honey!!!!
                          "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
                            Popcorn anyone? Ok, well I will take one (or two) for the team and share my recent experience with the good ole boy. Ahhh, where does one start?

                            I did the lovely deed and purchased two horses from "William" from Mallard Springs. For those of you wondering, it doesn't take a CSI detective to figure out he's from Old Orchard and he's really the old school Thomson... cute name he chose to switch to, eh? Now, I know some of you are going to jump on me and say "BUT HOW ARE YOU SURE?!?"... go look at both websites, the videos and his overall style of writing... I personally like his "****CONGRATULATIONS****" trash- don't patronize me. Perhaps his Beethoven background music in his videos help him feel a bit more legit or fancy if you will.

                            Long story short, "William" wouldn't hold for a vetting so I figured, ok, fine, I'll buy them and they aren't very expensive so we will see what we can do. You can usually fix poor training with time. I saw pictures and videos of legs and the horse in general and thought- they look fine. Both had a cute jump and relatively attractive in many aspects- why not take a chance?

                            Well, shipper picked up the horses in SC, called me on his way home and said "Hey! Who did you rescue?... " I thought, Ha. Ha. Funny, okay, what do you need? Well, no joke, I paid for two rescue horses- which I've now come to terms with. The shipper said there wasn't any hay to be found on the farm so these two trailered the ENTIRE 10+ hr trip without hay... Even after I told "William" I would pay for two bales. I asked for the horses to be pillow wrapped- said I'd pay for that too. He agreed and said it would "not be a problem!!!" They were not...

                            The horses each had over 30 plus ticks on them, welts oozing all over their bodies, the chestnut's teeth are so horrid that his tongue is lacerated, their hooves are an utter mess... very quiet, sweet and hungry though. They are hanging out for portions of the day in our grass fields and happy as can be.

                            Lastly, my favorite part of his last correspondence with me was when he pulled in the "puppy mill" approach. "If you dont like them. Just ship them back to me, and I will be happy to sell them for you, for the price that you paid, according to the terms of my consignment program. Or if you see two other horses on the web site that you like... I will be happy to trade them. The only horse that can not be traded is TatabraLulu. She is not mine...She is consigned, and not be traded." ... Oh William, yes, if only I could have the luxury of sending them to your lovely sales barn.

                            I have posted pictures on Flickr of what I thought I purchased and what came off of the trailer. I'm shocked and appalled. I have been exchanging interesting emails with this naughty William. Oh and he's a Christian? Bestow my heart. No worries, I'm on this one like white on rice.

                            Here is the link to the photos:
                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/6185516...7626520999840/

                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/6185516...7626520970358/



                            ... A little more cow bell.

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                            • #34
                              OMG, those poor ponies! I can't believe they are in that condition. I mean they had to be in decent condition when the videos were taken.... how long did it take MSF to do that to them??


                              Did anyone notice the "Rescue" section of their site???
                              http://mallardsprings.com/7201.html

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                              • #35
                                He needs to be STOPPED!!!!!!!

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                                • #36
                                  I can't believe he would try to represent those as the same horses. You are saintly for getting them all fixed up so quickly.

                                  PSA...

                                  www.ratemyhorsepro.com
                                  Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Platinum Equestrian View Post
                                    I can't believe he would try to represent those as the same horses.
                                    Wait, are they not the same horses? I thought they were the same horses, but in terrible condition. The markings on the chestnut seem to match.

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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by MHM View Post
                                      Wait, are they not the same horses? I thought they were the same horses, but in terrible condition. The markings on the chestnut seem to match.
                                      Yes, they are the same horses but NOT in the same condition as represented in the photos and video we were given. The Chestnut was represented as a stunning mover with an incredible jump, auto changes, and quite the show record - while all of this MAY have been true, he came to us (after we paid a good amount of money to get him here) as a skinny, malnourished animal with teeth so sharp that he lacerated his tongue. Oh, and I believe I previousy mentioned - FOUNDERED. This man will be stopped.

                                      Thanks again for the support and comments. Will try to keep updating on how this unfolds and hopefully inform people enough to not fall into his trap.

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by TheHarrier View Post
                                        Yes, they are the same horses but NOT in the same condition as represented in the photos and video we were given.
                                        That's what I thought.

                                        How old do you think the sales videos and pictures were? Were they even taken by the seller? Those horses could not have gone from one condition to the other overnight.

                                        There was a thread on here a while back about a trainer who used a sale picture that was taken at a show several years ago, before the current helmet rules went into effect. It may have been the same horse, but probably when he was 10 years younger.

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                                        • #40
                                          I will say only one thing (I posted on other threads about this shyster). I got a phone call from him back in February, I was at a show showing and he informed me that either I pull all my comments off of COTH or he was suing me for slander!! He said he didn't even know who I was and had never had business dealings with me (umm......WRONG!!) Of course I hung up on him and it is now over two months later and haven't been served with any lawsuits!
                                          www.shawneeacres.net

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